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Isometrics for hypertrophy aka "It'll never work..."
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Isometrics for hypertrophy aka "It'll never work..."

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One of the knocks against iso have to do with it supposedly not being effective for gaining lean mass.

Some quick guidelines for isometric hypertrophy work *as I understand it*. The usual disclaimers re other valid approaches with which I am personally not acquainted - this is for overcoming iso as I use it. Included is a bunch of speculation for 'why' I make these recommendations.

I'll also add to the confusion by coming up with my own terms for isometric contractions different from "overcoming/yielding, Push (PIMA)/Holding (HIMA), and any other definitions currently in use.

I have come to think in terms of 'Assertive' and 'Resistive' based on intent. 'Assertive' is an active increasing effort toward higher force. 'Resistive' is a holding effort attempt to maintain a current force level.

Very important to breathe - use a standard exercise breathing pattern of exert hard on exhale, relax on inhale. When gunning for hypertrophy you want to relax the working muscles as completely and rapidly as possible between reps unless you are using static hold across multiple breaths.

Basic static holds can trigger some initial hypertrophy but become less effective over time. A big part of this is twofold:

-a basic static hold is not very energetic. Non contractile elements like titin will kick in, taking some of the tension.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322627091\_The\_multiple\_roles\_of\_titin\_in\_muscle\_contraction\_and\_force\_production

-metabolite turnover in the muscle is reduced, lowering the volume on metabolic downstream signalling that is inseparable from tension when using traditional lifting. Additionally isometrics are most energetic at the initial assertive effort.

These can be countered by:

-during a static hold, rededicate every exhale with more effort. If you use a crane scale you'll notice that your force output goes up on exhale and down on inhale. With a tremendous effort, you can maintain tension on inhale, but only for a couple of breaths. If you allow slackening on inhale, you'll find your ability to hit high % force on repeated exhales is more enduring than you might think, 8-10 breaths.

-use of multiple repeated efforts of several seconds per, using a somewhat casual ramp up. An assertive effort with relax between to allow metabolite and blood turnover in the muscle. For hypertrophy, these should still be held for three or four seconds per. In use these "feel" very much like traditional lifting reps.

-intent to fire explosively into the hold and then maintain that force for three to four seconds, no slackening after the initial effort. Two parts - explode and hold. The hold after the initial 'Assertive' pop, becomes a 'Resistive' effort - you are fighting the stretch of non contractile elements trying to return to their resting lengths.

Using a scale to benchmark these, I found that the explosive efforts generated between 10 and 20% more force than a slow ramp up. I expected this, after observing how much my plywood deck deflected on the ends when using these compared to a slower start. What I didn't expect was that I could maintain a higher level of force (it wasn't just a spike) than I could even reach using a slower start over several exhales. Difficult to explain this in any light other than resisted eccentric(ish) contraction.

In use, I structure every set in two parts - initial static effort or initial string of explosive efforts, followed by pulse efforts. These are typically 10 breaths of each. On squat and deadlift I often cannot hit 10 pulse reps on my last set.

Alternatively a high effort rapid limb movement interval can be used in place of the pulse efforts, as the second half of the set. Jump rope, sprint in place, sprint bike etc. This provides the metabolite turnover and downstream signalling boost to accompany the tension component. An added bonus made possible by the reduced metabolic load from isometrics - when combined with intervals it improves cardio markers of resting heart rate and resting blood pressure.

Overall set volume is going to be similar to traditional, with the rep count (determined by breaths) a good bit higher than typical. I use two sets when combining it with intervals, three sets when combining it with pulse reps.

Me at start of Isometric training 5 years ago age 54:

https://imgur.com/a/ovcEt08#TrJvIqc

Me currently, a few weeks from 59, a huge thank you to everyone who told me it'll never work:

https://imgur.com/a/sN5IX1n#XXs7bta

u/millersixteenth — 4 days ago

Lifting and not hitting failure

This is a genuine question, not a “bro what are you even doing” question and it’s not intended to be sassy or sarcastic. When you’re lifting weights and not hitting failure, what is happening in the muscles?

A few examples of context:

You’re traveling and working out at a hotel gym and all they have is a set of 10 lb dumbbells. You do lunges and shoulder presses using these, knowing they’re nowhere near your typical working or failure weight.

You can’t make it to the gym because your kid is sick, so you knock out a quick at-home circuit using only body weight even though you typically lift very heavy.

Any orange theory/weighted exercise class where you are keeping your heart rate up but definitely not achieving muscular failure.

Gardening. Moving. Carrying your 40 lb kid up 4 flights of stairs because they fell asleep. Pilates. ETC.

Hypertrophy and gymbro internet has led me to believe that if you’re not hitting failure these workouts are wasted, but I don’t really believe that. You may not be growing muscle, but you’re doing something, and I am interested to know what is happening in the muscles.

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u/Dear_Particulars — 4 days ago

How are yall hitting the long head of the triceps

I spent months absolutely torching my elbows doing overhead tricep extensions standing up with the load at max torque w/my elbows bent

I tried them on a flat bench, kind of like a lat pull over but with my upper arms locked and just bending my elbows.... so much better. I feel like an idiot for not trying this before. I dont like pullovers because I really want to isolate the long head but I wanted to know if this is the right way to hit the long head. Im really amazed at how Im feeling slight soreness in the long head but not my elbows.

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u/VegaGT-VZ — 4 days ago

Gaining strength but not size

I've been training very consistently for 2 years, before that I was on and off. I feel like I should be seeing more growth than I am; right now it seems very insignificant.
I do progressive overload; start with my heaviest weight. I do 3 sets 6, 8, 10. Once my 10 can reach 12 reps or my 6 increases to 8, I increase my weight by 20lbs. I find myself increasing in weight at least once a month.

So I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I also make sure to eat between 110-130/160g of protein as a 161lbs female at 5'7.

I'm wondering if maybe I'm not doing enough volume? I work both upper and lower body twice a week. I also do 20 minutes of incline walking at level 3, 4 days a week after weight lifting.

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u/Useful-Maize-7371 — 4 days ago

Upper Lower split

Two working sets per exercise, 4-7 reps taken to 0-1 RIR, 2x frequency

Incline Bench Smith
Bent over rows Smith
Chin ups/dips
Cable Lateral Raise
Unilateral Rope Tricep Pushdown
Preacher curl ez bar
Squat
RDL
leg extension
Leg Curl
Calf Press
Abductor/Adductor
Decline Ab Crunch

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u/Ok-Artichoke2822 — 4 days ago

Am I the only one who feels like reps in reserve is a massive trap for most lifters?

everyone online talks about leaving 1-2 reps in the tank for optimal recovery. but honestly, I feel like most of us have absolutely no idea what true failure actually feels like.

when I stopped trying to do the math in my head on every set and just started taking my last working set until the weight literally stopped moving, my arms and back actually started growing again.

I feel like RIR only works if you've been lifting for like 5+ years and know your exact limits. otherwise you're probably just stopping when it starts to burn.

What do you say? do you go full in or not on a set.

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u/Exciting_Jacket9745 — 12 days ago
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As a female who wants to have a masculine build, is this split okay?

Hello all, I had just recently started being consistent at the gym. I'm a month in of consistency. My main focus and what I really like to do is upper body. I want to build muscle. This is my routine each week :) Advice is appreciated!!! I also make sure to have progressive overload each week!!!

Cardio 5x Weekly:

10 minute bike ride to and back from the gym

20 - 30 minutes of 3-4 incline at 3 mph

On leg day, I lower my cardio to 3 incline at 3mph for 15 minutes.

Back/Biceps/Core Day 1 & 4:

Back

Assisted Pull-Ups: 3x5-10

Lat Pulldowns: 3x10

One Arm Rear Delt Machine Fly: 3x10 per arm

Chest-Supported Machine Row: 3x10

Biceps

Preacher Curls: 3x10-12

Seated Hammer Curls: 3x10

Core

Weighted Decline Russian Twists: 3x20

Weighted Crunch Machine: 3x10-12

Chest/Shoulders/Triceps Day 2 & 5:

Chest

Bench Press Smith Machine: 3x10

Chest Fly Machine: 3x10-12

Shoulders

Shoulder Press: 3x10

Lateral Raises: 3x10

Triceps

Assisted Dips: 3x10

Skullcrushers: 3x10

Tricep Pushdowns: 3x8-10

Leg Day 3

Legs

Leg Press: 3x10-15

Leg Curl: 3x10-12

Leg Extensions: 3x10-12

Abductor/Adductor: 3x10-15

Lower Back Machine: 3x10-12

Goblet Squats: 3x10

Core

Weighted Decline Russian Twists: 3x20

Weighted Crunch Machine: 3x10-20

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u/Thin_Ask_8482 — 11 days ago

Not getting Legs DOMs anymore.

For context I did my Chest and back session half asleep Friday morning, thought I performed badly but woke up with a sore Chest and Lat muscles.

Next day was leg day, and I was energised!

My right Leg Is lagging strength and size wide so I spent an extra 20mins after my usual leg day hammering It and I had to take 5mins sitting In the changing room as my Quads and Hamstrings on my right leg were on fire!

Woke up this morning and can barely feel I trained legs, wtf?!

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u/ManIsready — 12 days ago