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I really enjoy being a simp for her. Anytime she needs something to cheer her up I can just send her cash. It’s the best thing a simp footboy can do for a goddess

first of all, im not a timewaster. Though the tributes I sent were not big in any way I still sent. That being said, I didn’t really get any noticeable pleasure from sending. I always fantasised before losing my findom virginity that I would get this immense pleasure but nope. Actually the anticipation of sending, or thinking about sending itself was way fucking hotter than the actual of sending. The mindfuck of thinking about getting drained dry felt way hotter than then actual act itself. Another thing is, findom(from what I’ve heard it in this space should be), voluntary submission, where you willingly submit and sent initial tribute then keep sending etc. But, for me, voluntary sending is mostly not what I like, I like to be made to, seduced kinda into sending, being put in my place. Maybe it’s not the real findom, maybe I need to stick to femdom, but that’s why I am writing this post. So, I think it would be the right decision to quit findom, not because I am having problems or ruining myself but fundamentally what I think findom was actually wrong and maybe femdom is the way and I should stick to it. If any subs feel the same way, I would love to hear your thoughts.

Note to dommes: I know most of you see this as timewaste, but if you think it is, please refrain from talking about it. I am not looking for a domme, and don’t message me.

I (26F) am adding my dom to my bank account. Typically my dom makes me send him money if I want to do specific things. If I want to masterbate I have to send him 5$ and each hour we add another $5. A few times a month he will request larger amounts upfront.

Sending my dom money gives me alot of pleasure so we've decided to add him to my bank account. We are going to set a budget of how much money I am allowed to spend monthy. I have to ask for permission if I want to purchase anything outside my budget. I also pay for his porn subscriptions and have given him my credit card information for him to use.

--Satire-- For the last few days I've had Dreams about giving money away. It started after I went to the beach and saw all the busty women in their bikinis. I imagined staying a conversation but it seemed more sensible to give them money first to impress them. Since then every time I use an ATM I remember the dream and wonder if it's a good idea to just give money to attractive and strong women. Meanwhile I have all this inheritance that I have to find something to do with. The stress is making me wish I could just give it to someone who could help me with my other issue which is that I haven't had sex in 69 years. Oh all these problems are making life so hard. I wish someone could help.

I sent tributes a Dommes husband recently; he ordered me to send after she'd handed him the phone. I think it unlocked something in me. She knows I'm a filthy pig - I get off on degradation - and told me how she'd love to see me renting my ass out in glory holes. Anything I make from that should go straight to my Masters bank account. I should thank him afterwards for allowing me to do that for him. I'm hot just thinking about it.

Hello there,
I’m currently struggling a bit and would very much appreciate advice from subs and Dommes alike.
I’ve been serving the same person for a significant amount of time (almost 3 years).
She recently requested a break for reasons that I won’t disclose since it should remain private.
She didn’t prevent me from doing anything BUT I love and respect her and would never want for her fo feel disrespected.

It’s been four months now and it’s getting harder.
I feel the craving. The need to send. The need to serve.
She didn’t prevent me from doing so to other Dommes but she didn’t encourage me either. She never mentioned it, so I don’t know if it’s acceptable or not by her book.
She’s the one I truly care for.

She did ask me NOT to send during her break so she wouldn’t feel pressured to interact.
I’m trying very hard to respect her wish but lately, it’s becoming harder, hence why I’m interacting a bit more here.

I miss findom. I miss our connection. I miss being useful to Her. I miss knowing about her life and feeling so proud of her. I miss everything about our dynamic.

I think my question would be : would it be ok to scratch the itch by sending to someone else, without it leading to a dynamic ? Would it be ok to send to her, if I make sure to let her know I don’t need anything from her, not even a single text message ? What could I do to help waiting for her without struggling this much ? It’s becoming worse and worse and it is affecting my mental health a bit, because I miss her, and because I also miss how she makes me feel.

Thanks for your help (:

EDIT: thank you so much for the warm answers I received and the good advices. I felt distressed yesterday and more conflicted because I’ve been drinking which I shouldn’t do while online. Some of your messages have been very eye-opening and I’m overwhelmed by the support of the community. I tend to lurk and not to post often but I will try go give back to others in need of support. I will also send to one or two Dommes whose answers has been very insightful and helped me cope tremendously. Not as a findom escape, but as a thank you token, as I cannot reply to every post.
Again, thank you very much. I will keep on waiting longer because she deserves it and will reconsider this decision every month.

This post brought to you by a number of months of me having a recurring thought.

For all relevant purposes I'm a masc cis-male sub. If I were to switch I can't likely pull off even Femboy. While I'm bi my primary attraction is to women and I don't feel like I've got the right appearance or presence to pull off Male Dom in an online persona.

Anyway with that sad start a thought keeps recurring to me.

• I am really good at budgeting.
• I am extremely good at holding to account and specific details.
• I have quite a bit of casual erotica writing experience. That includes writing femme dominant characters for male partners.
• I do REALLY like pushing people's buttons where I can and seeing them squirm. Especially when I've usually given them an easy out.
• I have been a sub for at least 5 woman in dynamics of varying styles. This depth of experience means I have a good handle on what does and doesn't have a reasonable expectation of actually working and being sustainable when it comes to submission and online dynamics.

That is all to say I think that I could do Findom and probably be pretty good at it. You might already know where this is headed now and why my title is that.

As I look around I don't feel like many people are here for the control. They either want the drain or they honestly just wanna talk to a woman. A number of you out there I know if you dig deep down you probably don't actually enjoy letting that $50 go but you can't help sending when you know you'll get a "Good Boy" back.

So in terms of the title are most of you out here looking for a woman, and looking for the send. Are there people out there looking to experience the control and giving up to someone who just knows what's best for you even though it's not exactly the kinky fantasy you imagined?

Also have any of you subs out there ever tried flipping?

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This is NOT an advertisement. I am NOT interested in utilizing this specific Reddit account for this purpose, nor connecting it. If I were to embark on this endeavor rest assured I'd do it with a different account which I would keep totally segregated.

So some of you may have seen my posts last week about taking my goddess shopping. Well today was that day and she stood me up as the title suggests haha.

It didn’t feel great. She’s also blocked me on everything out of nowhere which was a real kick in the teeth. Oh well. I suppose she got cold feet at the prospect of meeting a stranger on the internet which is actually understandable but goddamn, some communication would’ve been nice!

Oh well. I suppose I shouldn’t get too hung up on some girl I’ve never met and will now never meet. It just sucks because we really had a connection or at least I thought we did. I also came home and sent about £150 to some random domme for her drinks. It was always gonna happen wasn’t it? Prolly less than I would’ve spent on this girl though lol.

It’s more the disrespect than the actual rejection. I can take rejection no problem! But the disrespect of not even telling me when I was literally gonna do her a massive favour is crazy. Ah well. That’s just life.

I kind of have the fantasy of being chased down by dominant women, harassed by messages and silent calls in the middle of the night, spotted on the street even and eventually hunted until one catches me to take me everything and enslave me.

Am I the only one to have this fantasy? Is it healthy to think things like that? Do you think there is a reasonable way to enact it?

Ever since I lost my findom virginity and started sending. Something happened. Slowly in my instagram and twitter, completely normal never interacted with anything nsfw only sports, memes, normal stuff, algorithm started showing me feet videos. I didn’t think of it much. Now, I am taking a break from findom, just posting here, interacting normally, but now the amount of foot videos, and addition of videos about men simping for women and other femdom styled videos have invaded my perfectly crafted algorithm. Is it a blatant tactic to keep me addicted or relapse?

This post is to be taken not seriously. I am not like very addicted or anything, or seeking for help. Haven’t sent in days so im good lol but thank you for worrying about me if you are.

I love playing games with my goddess usually involving tasks or tease and denial. What’s everyone’s fav games they like to play in their dynamic?? Looking for fun new ones to test out!!

Happy 4th!

I’ve always wanted to try a cashmeet, but I lack the courage. I’m quite shy, and it makes me nervous, but at the same time, I’m curious. It also holds me back that I live in a mid-sized city and haven't come across a Domme here yet. I would have to travel to do that. Did it live up to your expectations? Was it awkward? Is it worth the effort, or is it better to stick to a purely online relationship?

Nothing really to go crazy over i think its just that lately with her new job shes been around a lot less and it is a reminder of how often shes been a part of my life the past year or so, feels like theres only a small window of opportunity to chat, she hasnt even really been popping in to ask for a quick send or anything. Idk just a lonely vent I guess lol its not gonna be long term so hopefully things can go back to normal

Feeling the struggles and compulsions hard. Just venting here for a moment. Late summer nights are the worst when the mind is needy craving and racing,

This is a bit of a vent. Two types of experiences I have with smaller accounts on X. First is me liking every post a small account makes and wanting to be “hunted” but mostly crickets and they seemingly don’t even want to reach out (fair enough) but a bit wasteful imo.

Second type is me not just liking these accounts but also approaching and literally paying tributes and trying to get the conversation going but even then it’s crickets and mostly a “good boy” and now I’m wondering what’s up with that some dommes can’t even make the argument that subs don’t pay or put in effort. Like damn 💀 what do I have to do

For six years I have unknowingly been deceived. Having recently studied the Constitution of True Internet BDSM™, I have discovered that my Dominant has been masquerading as a dominant whilst committing repeated and egregious breaches of established Internet Dominance™ jurisprudence. My whole dynamic has been a lie.

Having carefully measured the Defendant against these constitutional standards, the Defendant stands before the Court charged with the following offences:

1. Unlawful Initiation of Contact: The Defendant contacted the submissive first instead of simply barking 'Approach' and expecting the submissive to materialise out of thin air.
2. Aggravated Prospect Inflation: The Defendant introduced himself, explained what he had to offer and why he thought he and the submissive would be a good fit instead of expecting the submissive to grovel and beg as to why she should be selected from a sea of non-existent prospects.
3. Premeditated Relationship Building: The Defendant invested time building trust before expecting deeper submission instead of demanding tribute before 'hello'.
4. Persistent Unsolicited Communication: The Defendant repeatedly initiated conversations with the submissive over six years. On several occasions he has even double, tripled and quadruple texted. Scandalous.
5. Unauthorised Renegotiation: The Defendant repeatedly renegotiated the dynamic after listening to the submissive's views. The Defendant clearly believes in building a partnership instead of dictatorship.
6. Collaborative Decision-Making: The Defendant actually changed aspects of the dynamic following discussions with his submissive. The Court is deeply concerned that he appears to believe relationships are collaborative as opposed to a dictatorship where anything the True Dominant™ says, goes.
7. Reckless Acceptance of Responsibility: The Defendant has apologised when he made mistakes instead of reminding the submissive that 'a dominant is always right'.
8. Gift Giving: The Defendant has purchased gifts for the submissive. Subspicious behaviour.
9. Aggravated Towel Burrito: The Defendant wrapped the submissive in a towel burrito after an intense session instead of dramatically disappearing into the night.
10. Possession of Genuine Concern: The Defendant has demonstrated concern for the submissive's wellbeing outside kink.
11. Criminal Failure to Collect Tribute: The Defendant forgot to collect thousands of dollars in cash during an in-person session. This is gross negligence.
12. Sustained Consistency with Intent: The Defendant has maintained the same dynamic for six years through consistency rather than internet posturing.
13. Unlawful Explanation of Reasoning: The Defendant explained his reasoning instead of relying upon 'because I said so'.
14. Leadership by Competence: The Defendant has confused dominance with competent leadership instead of arrogance and aggressive stupidity. The Defendant has also demonstrated that leadership sometimes looks like communication, accountability and investment in a relationship rather than emotional unavailability.
15. Failure to Ghost: The Defendant warned the submissive when he would be busy instead of becoming Casper the Friendly Ghost™ and allowing her to stew in the mystery of whether she's being ignored as part of some advanced dominance technique.
16. Emotional Stability in the First Degree: The Defendant never raised his voice or personally attacked the submissive during disagreements.
17. Respecting Submissives as Human Beings: The Defendant judged submissives as individuals rather than collectively as annoying scum.
18. Failure to Deploy Logical Fallacies: The Defendant addressed the submissive's actual arguments instead of deploying logical fallacies to ensure he remains in charge.
19. Aggravated Goalpost Non-Movement: The Defendant has refused to move the goalposts when losing an argument.
20. Possession of Quiet Confidence: The Defendant has maintained authority without constantly reminding everyone he was dominant.
21. Criminal Trust Building: The Defendant believed trust from a submissive should be earned rather than demanded.
22. Dissemination of Dangerous Communication: The Defendant demonstrated that communication strengthens authority instead of weakening it.
23. Aggravated Patience: The Defendant has patiently explained things instead of expecting the submissive to decipher cryptic one-word messages and read his mind.
24. Permitting Independent Thought And Expectations: The Defendant allows the submissive to disagree with him without seeing it as a threat to his authority. He also actively encouraged his submissive to share her thoughts on the direction of the dynamic without accusing her of trying to top from the bottom.
25. Possession of Healthy Boundaries: The Defendant has consistently respected his submissive's boundaries.
26. Failure to Become an Internet Guru: The Defendant has failed to post daily sermons about what True Dominants™ and True subs™ should do. An unforgivable lack of thought leadership.
27. Competence with Intent to Lead: The Defendant has repeatedly demonstrated that competence and consistency are more effective than performative arrogance.
28. Aggravated Mutual Respect: The Defendant has demonstrated the dangerous belief that mutual respect and authority are not mutually exclusive.
29. Functioning Adult Whilst Dominant: The Defendant has behaved like a psychologically well-adjusted human instead of displaying the emotional instability required of a True Dominant™.
30. Operating Without Billable Hours: The Defendant has consistently failed to operate a billable-hour model akin to a law firm. Instead of treating every interaction as chargeable time and lamenting about "working for free," the Defendant appears to believe that investing in a relationship without immediate financial reward is compatible with dominance. Under the True Findom™ Code, every message, conversation and interaction should immediately be followed by an itemised invoice.
31. Aggravated Gratitude: The Defendant has thanked the submissive for sends instead of replying "Good. Now double it." The Defendant appears to believe appreciation is compatible with financial domination. The Court finds this to be a flagrant breach of the True Dominant™ Code of Practice.
32. Submission by Merit: The Defendant has consistently behaved as though submission is something to be earned and maintained, rather than something automatically conferred upon anyone who calls themselves a True Dominant™. The Court considers this perhaps the clearest evidence that the Defendant has absolutely no idea how the internet works.
33. Cryptocurrency with Intent to Defraud: The Defendant only accepts sends in cryptocurrency and has never used Throne. The Court therefore suspects his real name is Joanne because he is definitely a scammer.
34. Reckless Age Verification: The Defendant accepted the Submissive's stated age instead of requesting enough identification to satisfy Border Force. IRRESPONSIBLE.
35. Failure to Exist on Reddit: The Defendant is not active on Reddit and therefore cannot possibly exist at all.
36. Operating Without Honorifics: The Defendant permitted the Submissive to use his actual name instead of Master, CashMaster, Lord or Sir.
37. Wilful Prevention of Financial Gain: The Defendant repeatedly talked the Submissive out of terrible ideas even when doing so cost him substantial sums of money.
38. Aggravated Accountability: During one impact session, the Defendant failed to hear his submissive's safeword, resulting in distress. Rather than immediately arguing that the submissive simply "didn't shout loudly enough," the Defendant instead ensured she was okay and accepted responsibility for not hearing it. This occurred despite the submissive herself not blaming the Defendant.
39. Conspiracy to Resolve Conflict Peacefully: The Defendant exhibits healthy conflict resolution skills. Rather than blasting his submissive across the internet via strategically cropped screenshots every time he deems her to have stepped out of line, the Defendant instead insists upon resolving disagreements in a calm, measured and private manner.
40. Aggravated Maleness: The Defendant is a man. The Court notes with grave concern that the Defendant has spent the last six years occupying a role that certain corners of the internet insist should be reserved exclusively for women. The Prosecution submits that the Defendant has been taking up valuable space in a kink in which he clearly does not belong, despite the minor inconvenience that his own submissive happens to identify as heterosexual. The Defendant has made no discernible effort to become a woman, nor has he apologised for the inconvenience his continued existence causes to certain online commentators. The Court therefore finds the Defendant guilty of Aggravated Maleness in the First Degree, contrary to the True Findom™ Equality of Outcome Act, under which all legitimate financial dominants are required to be female irrespective of the preferences of the consenting adults involved.
41. Aggravated Promotion of Healthy Relationship Standard: The Defendant's conduct has directly contributed to the collapse of multiple unhealthy dynamics in contravention of the True Findom™ Preservation Act 2020, after his submissive committed the grave offence of writing extensive pieces describing what a healthy long-term dynamic can look like by drawing heavily upon her own experiences with the Defendant. The Court finds that these writings have encouraged submissives to develop dangerously inflated expectations from their dominants such as communication, accountability, consistency, safeguarding, conflict resolution, emotional intelligence and competent leadership. As a consequence, several dynamics proved unable to withstand comparison with the Defendant's conduct. The Prosecution submits that the Defendant's continued example constitutes an affront to the long-standing internet doctrine that standards for dominants should be as low as reasonably practicable (i.e in the depths of Hell).

Mitigating Factors

Counsel for the Defence submitted that the Defendant had merely sustained a healthy, mutually fulfilling dynamic for six years. However, the Court rejects the Defendant's defence in its entirety. The Court should add that it did not read the Defendant's defence particularly closely. In fact, it did not read it at all. In keeping with established Internet BDSM™ procedure, the Court instead reached its decision by relying upon a comprehensive selection of logical fallacies, moving the goalposts whenever necessary, constructing several strawmen for convenience, and dismissing any evidence inconsistent with the desired outcome. Although the Defence was coherent, internally consistent and supported by six years of evidence, the Court reminds the parties that logic and reasoning have no place in Internet BDSM™ jurisprudence. Instead, the Court relies upon the long-established legal principle of:

>"We just don't like it. Therefore, it's wrong."

Aggravating Factors

The Court further notes the following aggravating circumstances:

• The offending persisted continuously over a period of six years, demonstrating a sustained pattern of non-dominant behaviour.
• The Defendant has been caught finding the behaviour of True Dominants™ unacceptable and even mocking their behaviour, which suggests that he was never actually one of them.
• The Defendant showed no remorse, continuing to contact the submissive first despite repeated opportunities to correct his behaviour.
• The offending was premeditated. On several occasions, the Defendant knowingly purchased fresh oranges and lemon cake despite being fully aware that gifts from dominants are prohibited under Internet Dominant Law.
• The Defendant's actions were liable to mislead impressionable internet submissives into believing that communication, consistency, accountability, emotional intelligence and competent leadership are compatible with dominance.
• Most seriously, the Defendant admitted to experiencing imposter syndrome and questioned whether he was worthy of receiving financial submission. Such humility is entirely incompatible with the standards expected of a True Dominant™, who is required to believe they deserve everything simply by virtue of identifying as a dominant, irrespective of whether they possess the capacity, capability or inclination to actually lead a healthy dynamic.
• The Defendant demonstrated a persistent disregard for established Internet Dominant Jurisprudence by repeatedly choosing competence over performance.
• The offending occurred across multiple jurisdictions, including both online and in person, demonstrating an alarming level of commitment to the deception.
• The Defendant possesses an alarming degree of knowledge regarding investing, financial markets and portfolio management, and has even successfully invested funds on his submissive's behalf. He also manages his own finances and has never resorted to begging his sub or anyone else for money. This constitutes a gross misunderstanding of the Findom™ Job Description.The Court reminds the Defendant that the "dom" in findom refers to dominance, not financial competence. A True Findom™ need only possess expert knowledge of the cost of coffee, lunch, shoes and handbags, whilst confidently declaring that every market downturn is merely an opportunity for the submissive to "send harder." The Defendant's repeated display of genuine financial literacy is therefore considered a serious aggravating feature of the offending.

Verdict

The Court unanimously finds the Defendant guilty on all 41 counts and his Dominant Card is hereby revoked with immediate effect. The Court has also ordered an investigation into the Defendant's curriculum vitae. His claim of 15 years' experience as a dominant has been deemed materially misleading.

Evidence presented before the Court demonstrates repeated acts of communication, accountability, negotiation, emotional intelligence, consistency, safeguarding, competent leadership and basic human decency, all of which are plainly inconsistent with accepted Internet Dominant™ standards. The Court therefore concludes that the Defendant has, for the last 15 years, been masquerading as a dominant whilst exhibiting dangerously healthy relationship skills.

Taken individually, each of the 41 counts might have been explained away. Taken together, however, they paint a compelling picture of a man who has wilfully ignored almost every established principle of True Internet BDSM™ in favour of communication, accountability, consistency, emotional intelligence and competent leadership.

Furthermore, he is convicted of Perverting the Course of Internet BDSM by encouraging submissives to believe that dominance can include communication, accountability, negotiation, gifts, consistency and basic human decency. The Court further finds that the Defendant's conduct has caused irreparable damage to the market for low-effort dominance by encouraging submissives to develop dangerously high standards. The Court therefore concludes that the Defendant is, in fact, a submissive masquerading as a dominant.

Sentence

The Court orders that the Defendant be sentenced to reading guidance on how to be a True Dominant™ from all the internet subreddits, especially the findom ones, for 10 hours a day. This sentence will be suspended for six years. The Defendant shall also continue:

• messaging first
• double texting where appropriate
• buying fresh oranges and lemon cake
• wrapping submissives into towel burritos after intense sessions
• communicating anticipated absences instead of becoming Casper the Friendly Ghost™;
• thanking submissives for gifts instead of demanding they "double it";
• apologising when wrong
• renegotiating dynamics
• investing in relationships without issuing invoices for every interaction
• protecting his submissive from her own questionable ideas, even at great financial cost
• forgetting to collect tribute whenever practicable

The Court considers this sentence proportionate to the seriousness of the offending. This judgment is final and cannot be appealed, unless the Defendant messages first again, in which case his sentence will be increased accordingly.

Court adjourned.

Judgment handed down by The Honourable Mrs Justice Bulltroll

High Court of Internet BDSM™

King's Bench Division (True Findom™ List)

I was just thinking about some of my past experiences and realized that 90% of them weren’t really fun because you simply moved from one session/transaction to the other, without ever enjoying the process.

While the other 10% was filled with jokes, genuine mutual interest and conversations(while everyone knows their roles) and now I’m at a point where I wonder if findom as we know it makes much sense to me.

I think a dynamic where you are friends first, findom second makes much more sense. Am I missing the point and what do you guys feel like? Do you need another element to take make the process more enjoyable?