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I just finished gen 2 and i loved it sm but the end was shitty and i dont want to just "finish" the show because i heard that gen 3 is shit aswell so i wanted to watch directly season 7 and not watch gen 3 so what do you recommend?

It's been a while since I've watched the show, but I remembered randomly how Minnie became friends with everyone.

I'm pretty sure she just knocks on Liv's door with Nick, and everyone just sort of meets up there because Minnie told them to. Then out of the blue she goes on about how she's treated them bad because she feels a bit outcast and outdone by all of them, saying they're "alternative and cool".

This is a really unrealistic and rushed way of bringing everyone together imo. She has literally no motive to doing this- she's all good with Nick, everyone's minding their own business, she's doing fine socially- so there's literally no reason why she would be doing all this.

I find it hard to believe that graces link with rich would've been enough to spark this friend group and sudden change in Minnie's avoidance of the group. She literally hates Frankie and finds rich/alo weird. Hence, is say that her sudden attachment and friendliness with everyone seems very unrealistic and rushed, just a way for producers to quickly make the group all seem friends. Is that just me?

Am I missing something? Or was Minnie's half bothered apology really just a way of trying to quickly establish a new friend group for the new gen of skins.

Hey all, I just finished 1-3 and LOVE the series, however I have read such terrible reviews of season 4. Is it worth the watch? I don’t want to ruin my favorite show 🙃 btw the ending has already been spoiled for me too🥲

It BOGGLES my mind how people look at a situation where a girl is cheated on and humiliated multiple times by her psychotic and egotistical boyfriend, and not only that, but her friend(s?) knew and didn't tell her, and he cheated on her with one of THEIR FRIENDS while she was in the room, but somehow, she's wrong for lashing out at Jal for knowing for so long and not telling her and for not wanting to talk to Maxxie after he let her bf give him head.

While Jal shouldn't have been the one to tell Michelle, and it should've been Tony because he's the boyfriend, Jal still made it worse by at least not confronting Tony and saying, "If you don't tell her, I will." The same goes with Maxxie.

Michelle being villainized breaks my heart, and she deserved so much better. And I will die on that hill.

In Fire, we all know Naomi gets cancer and passes away. And we also know that besides Effy still being friends with her and Emily, nobody from the second gen has any kind of interaction with the group anymore.

But I always thought that somehow Cook should know about Naomi's illness and passing. Because he loved her. Besides the other two musketeers and Effy, Naomi was the only other person from their group that Cook loved. And I know he changed and isolated himself after Freddie and the storyline was another, but I just could not stop wondering how unfair and sad it was that he never knew and probably would never knew what happened with her.

​I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I think Jess Brittain wrote Effy well in Fire. At first glance, it might seem strange that Effy in Fire actually cares, but considering her aversion to being dependent and becoming an object of pity, it's no wonder that after the events of Season 4, she wanted to show herself and the world that she is "fixed." She shows her need for stimulation through how much she feels stifled by her job as an assistant and how naturally she fits into the world of high finance, as well as through her risk-taking and cunning—like when she goes to a meeting with an investor without authorization while still an assistant. Her manipulativeness (obviously). Her sharp mind—like when she finds the error in the report and how quickly she picks up the trading lesson from Dominic. And her defiance—like when she doesn't let Victoria walk all over her. ​The fact that she has to be "the smartest person in the room"—just as with the mushroom incident where she wants to secure her position as the center of the group during the camping trip, in London she similarly can't just be a regular, beginner trader slowly learning her craft; hence the initial insider trading move. Her agency, like at the end when she takes down Jake and makes sure Dominic doesn't face any consequences. How caring she can be toward those she loves, visible in the scenes with Naomi in the hospital. Her ability to listen, evident in the scene with Naomi in bed. Her loyalty, for instance, when she fulfills Naomi's request by not telling Emily about her illness. The fact that she has a bullshit detector, like when she tells Naomi not to hide the truth from Emily. The fact that she doesn't confide her feelings even when going through a tragic situation—like during her last conversation with Naomi, when asked what she is going to do, she says nothing, even though her romantic and professional life lies in ruins and she herself is facing prison. ​The fact that she feels guilt when someone she cares about suffers because of her—in this case, Dominic, just like before with Freddie, which is visible in the final scene of Episode 5 of Season 3 (I know this is controversial, but in my opinion, she isn't mocking Freddie there; instead, shock and then shame are painted on her face, noticeable when she briefly looks down as Cook appears behind her; of course, pride wouldn't let her look away for longer, but nevertheless, there is no arrogant "Effy smirk" there), or during the conversation scene with JJ in Episode 7 of Season 3 (by the way, it is incorrect to blame Effy entirely for the breakdown of Cook and Freddie's friendship, where Cook can act maliciously or even cruelly toward Freddie; similarly, Dominic is an adult, experienced man in the industry, and Effy never pretended to love him—she doesn't let him kiss her on the terrace, and when Dominic tells her: "I'm hypothetically in love with you. As you know," and she answers: "It's just a crush, you twat."). The fact that she has a certain kind of humility—both when Emily takes her anger out on her for not telling her about Naomi's illness and when JJ accuses her of causing the breakup of the "three musketeers." ​

Many criticize the storyline of her relationship with Jake, but notice how quickly she becomes emotionally attached to Freddie, and in both cases, it happens during difficult moments for her: here it is Naomi's diagnosis, and there it is her parents' marriage falling apart. There is also her unwavering loyalty toward Pandora, even though Pandora betrays her trust by sleeping with Cook during the slumber party. And her assistance to Jake stems from the same protective instinct she showed when helping Tony get Michelle back. Even details like using clubbing as a form of escapism, shown in the sleepless night scene. The fact that she still doesn't shy away from drugs, shown in the company party scene. Her sharp comebacks, shown after Emily's comment during the dinner scene of her visit from New York. Even the fact that she has a nice, straightforward friend in Jane, who feels reminiscent of Pandora, also fits her character.

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I am a diehard Sid defender and always have been, and I really don't understand why everyone piles on him and acts like Cassie is this victim who can do no wrong.

Cassie liked Sid first, and Sid didn't reciprocate. Ok. It happens.

Then, when Cassie is hospitalized, Jal blames Sid. Yes, he should've explained himself but Cassie trying to off herself was not his fault at all and anyone who blames him for that is sick.

She then got mad at him for dipping to go help Tony which- is also not Sid's fault?

Not to mention the way she makes everything everyone else's problem like, "I've had my pain, Jal. Yours is in the post." like WTF?!

Bottom line, they're both mentally ill teenagers who shouldn't have been together like most of the kids on that show.

Looking back, there are definitely characters I excused because I liked them, even when they were making objectively terrible decisions. A rewatch has forced me to admit some of my favourites were a lot harder to defend than I remembered. Which character did you view most differently on a rewatch?

Personally, I think this is going to come as a surprise but my favorite character is Rich. I honestly think he’s the kindest character in the whole show, he was loyal and a good friend. He even forgave the people who caused Gracie’s death. I also love rock music and am a guy so I relate a lot to Rich. Summarizing, I think there something to be admired about his character because he never crossed boundaries that most other characters did.

I love Cook, Tony and Effy too don’t get me wrong. They are stronger characters than Rich and that’s down to writing for the most part.

What’s your opinion?

The way she treated them in her centric Series 6 episode was unforgivable. And then her hang-ups on being adopted in the last two episodes of the series feels so unnecessary. Gen 3 is my favorite cast, but they really did Franky dirty...