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Yesterday I watched the first episode of the original Skam. I liked it quite a bit, but I was surprised by how many people compare it to Skins. Next to Skins, SKAM almost feels "Disney-like." As a pilot episode, I actually thought Skins was stronger because you can already tell that most of the major storylines for the first season had been planned from the start—they're introduced right away.

The first episode of Skam, on the other hand, feels a bit more improvised. It focuses heavily on Eva, whereas Skins introduces the entire friend group in its very first episode, along with Effy, Angie, and even some of the characters' parents.

That said I'm definitely going to keep watching to see how it develops.

I'm home for the holiday, ready to start my senior year but at the same time, I'm getting ready my teen drama script and I have already found actors ready for their parts, I just need a production company. But anyhow, I'm studying screenwriting of all sorts of shows, especially YA (since it's the genre I'm tackling the most). The most imposing shows I'm dissecting right now are The Sopranos, Buffy The Vampire Slayer (& Angel), Gilmore Girls, The Good Place, Veronica Mars, Ginny & Georgia (post season 1), Breaking Bad (& Better Call Saul) etc... I'm wondering, considering the importance of Skins of pop culture and teen drama writing, it's surprising that the father-son duo didn't do much after the show. I mean, when you look at showrunners of successful teen dramas, they often thrive afterwards :

- Beverly Hills, 90210 : After creating the show that has been a template for all the teen shows to come after, Darren Star went on to work on Melrose Place create Sex & The City (a show that still makes it on top greatest shows of all time) and then Younger (a less successul but long running show of 7 seasons) and then the awful but still successful show Emily In Paris. This man has left his print on the trashy TV content. The fact that he worked close to Aaron Spelling, who was Hollywood royalty at the time, probably helped a lot.

- My So-Called Life : After the way the show was acclaimed by the critics and hailed as Holzman's unique voice that changed the teen genre forever, Winnie Holzman went on to write for Broadway, which is huge and continued to create plays for theater that all received amazing reviews for their writing. And now, she's responsible for one of the biggest movies of our time : Wicked.

- Sabrina The Teenage Witch : After adapting the show and it being a success, Nell Scovell was a writer on multiple successful shows such as Charmed, The Simpsons and NCIS and wrote the book Lean In which had quite a good success and is still talked about (even tho not in the best light) and she is a writer on some of the biggest magazines ever such as Vogue, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, The New York Times Magazine and Self.

- Buffy The Vampire Slayer : Obviously, Joss had a little boost as he comes from a respected family of screenwriters so success in the industry was a bit more secure for him and also he was respected as a script doctor before creating Buffy (as he worked on Alien and Toy Story especially) but it's after Buffy that people started praising Whedon for his vision and genius, creating in the same era two other very acclaimed shows : Angel and Firefly and then went on to a successful career of movies and shows, dominating a lot of the nerd culture and his dialogue (the Whedonesque dialogue) being cimented in pop culture for better or worse.

- Dawson's Creek : Well, I will say his big break came from how huge Scream became, with both critics and audiences and then his show Dawson just confirmed his innate ability to write YA contents that is smart and self aware, again his dialogue were very much specific to his work. He had pretty successful horror movies and then adapted another successful teen drama The Vampire Diaries (to skip that one, we also have Julie Plec and despite the fact that her writing sucks and she's the reason behind why the show fell off after season 3, she also had a steady career created shows left and right, granted a lot of them are flops but she managed to make two successful spin offs out of the TVD universe and adapated We Were Liars, terrible show but still addictive).

- Freaks and Geeks : After creating the show, Paul Feig saw his career blew up with writing on multiple successful shows like Mad Men , Arrested Developpement, The Office etc... He directed the Bridesmaids and continued to work and write and direct several successful projects. His writing and vision were praised , starting with Freaks and Geeks.

- Gilmore Girls : After creating the ultimate comfort show Gilmore Girls, Amy Sherman Palladino was skyrocket to success. She was even proposed to write a Gossip Girl movie in 2004 starring Lindsay Lohan but the project was abandoned (and picked up years later but as a show). She created shows such as Bunheads and then The Marvelous Mrs Maisel, which was as critically acclaimed as Gilmore Girls. All the shows/movies she did had her trademark fast-paced dialogue full of pop culture references that became iconic on it's own.

- Smallville : After adapting the OG superhero coming of age show in 2001, Miles Millar and Alfred Gough, the pair were part of really huge blockbusters movies like Spider Man 2 or Hannah Montana The Movie, to name a few and continued to take part in TV, notably creating The Shannara Chronicles and Wednesday (the Netflix international hit directed by legend Tim Burton).

- Everwood : I guess this show wasn't as popular as the ones mentioned above, like it didn't have the critics attention of Gilmore Girls/Buffy or a passionate audience that much (even tho, I watched the show and the writing is really good). Anyway, it was still Greg Berlanti's big break. He created Jack & Bobby which was drawn in critical acclaim despite the low audience. He produced and wrote the show Brothers and Sisters that had the first same sex marriage on network TV. The man is praised for his vision and innovative ideas.

- The O.C. : After creating the OC, Josh Schwartz created a slew of TV shows in the same kinda style but it always worked : Gossip Girl, Chuck (a spy show tho but still incredible), Dynasty, Hart Of Dixie, The Carrie Diaries etc... (and is about to create another YA show on Prime Video, Sterling Point). While working with clichés, his writing somehow always clicks, he's truly masterful.

- One Tree Hill : While in the works of the One Tree Hill, he wrote multiple teen movies, even tho all of them were flops. In 2008, his creation of OTH was enough to be a top candidate to be creating a Melrose Place spin off, which is quite huge. He then created another TV show, The Royals, that had every ones of his trademark : slut shaming, fat shaming, cliché heteronormativity ideals and conservative ideas, while not having the depth and witty charm of the early years of On Tree Hill. Thank god his career ended with the allegations.

- Veronica Mars : While VM was not popular audience wise, it was darling critics wise, receiving praise from Buffy's creator Joss Whedon, author Stephen King etc... Which was enough to hail Rob Thomas as visionary and makes him a name in the industry, developping two particular TV shows that, despite not being huge in the mainstream, still were high in the critics eye and proved his screenwriting abilities : Party Down and iZombie.

- Friday Night Lights : With the show's critical acclaim (and the movie's both of which are considered some of the best sport-related media ever), Peter Berg was even more respected as a writer and director, which also goes for showrunner Jason Katims.

- H20 : Just Add Water : Even Jonathan M.Shiff thrived on the success of the show, created a spin off (Mako Mermaids) The Elephant Princess and another more recent magical show : The Bureau Of Magical Things. Basically, he's known for creating successful Australian kids/teen shows that are pretty well written and allow Australian actors to be successful. Even now, he's about to do movies in the same realm.

You got, I'm only going to do shows from BEFORE Skins because if not we will be here for hours but so why, in spite of Skins's international and critical success, Jamie and Bryan didn't go on to be more successful, like they didn't create on thing since Skins, I really tried to see but nope but I'm exciting about an upcoming show of Bryan Elsley called Counsels.

They were unforgettable

Sorry for the 3 last one the quality is awfull

Haven't watched skins in years, i've been doing a few rewatches to study the show and i completely forgot about this cameo entirely holy shit!. So nice to here him use his Glasgow accent here esp as a fellow scot!!!.