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Protect gain against theta

I bought some 60 DTE OTM calls and they tripled in value the next day. But they’re still OTM, so theta is going to eat away my entire profit if the stock price stays where it is. I don’t want to sell the calls because I believe events in a month or two will drive them up farther.

I’m willing to give up part of my windfall to protect the remainder of my current gain.

Is there a way I can protect my windfall from theta without selling my profitable calls?

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u/sam99871 — 7 hours ago

What have you been wheeling (or selling theta on) for a long time?

For me these have been AAL, GLD, SLV, HHH, JD, KWEB, PFE

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u/ikarumba123 — 13 hours ago

Fidelity will be phasing out ATP

So, from what I hear, Active Trader Pro will be replaced by Fidelity Desktop+ within a year. Sure, ATP is buggy and crashes frequently, but it has a variety of features that FD+ does not. And Fidelity says that it likely won't, ever. Many of these features pertain to options trading. ATP has a very nice options trade calculator with graphical output along with tables of the Greeks and other useful things, and volatility and time inputs, etc.. FD+ does not, and Fidelity basically told me to piss off when I told them that that was a necessary feature.

I need to move to a different broker whose trading software caters to stock and option traders both. Suggestions???? Help????

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u/OddStorm6610 — 8 hours ago

When exactly do you see premium when selling a CSP in Robinhood

Sold a CSP this morning for $125. It’s a $69 stroke so my collateral, as above, is $6,900. But where did the premium go? Was it added to my cash immediately (I’m not sure what the exact amount was right before I placed the trade)? Or will I get it later and do I just need to monitor the balance?

Do you guys worry about this or just assume the brokerage is doing exactly as it should? Maybe I’m just being paranoid.

u/iisconfused247 — 15 hours ago

App for tracking profit/loss

Hello big fellas, what apps are you using to track your option losses or winnings? I see a lot of posts with great ux and comments asking what they use but not a lot of answers. Also if it integrates with different platforms to get all the trades automatically. I use Ibkr.

Thank you!

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u/banicaradu — 11 hours ago

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u/satireplusplus — 1 day ago

How many of you are beating the S%P 500?

Hoping to hear from more experienced investors. I've been trying to figure out my trading strategy (I'm towards the beginning of this journey.

I've come across this sub and sold a few CSPs. I've been reading lots about different methods for trading and frequently think about the statistic that basically all traders quit within five years and almost none beat the S&P over the long run. Has that been true in your all's experience? Would your advice to a younger investor/trader be to just stick everything in some ETFs? Or is theta gang worth it?

Open to hearing all sides

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u/iisconfused247 — 1 day ago

Can CSP/wheel premiums work as a steady monthly income?

Been selling CSPs for a little over a year, staying pretty conservative. Lower delta, avoiding stuff I don't want to own. Averaging around $800 - $1,000 a month in premium, only got assigned a handful of times.

Curious if anyone here has actually taken this and turned it into a real monthly income stream rather than just extra cash. A few things I'm wondering about:

  1. Account size. What kind of account gets you to numbers that actually cover the month without taking dumb risk?

  2. Whether the "safe monthly income" math holds up. Or does vol eventually wreck a few months of premium in one go?

  3. Cost. Most months I roll 15 to 20 contracts. On a platform still charging around 0.65 per contract, that's hundreds a year. On a smaller account that's a real drag.

Not trying to quit my job tomorrow. Just want to hear from people who actually run the wheel as income before I start planning around it.

u/DustyKnackers — 23 hours ago

hedging

Curious the different way y’all may hedge your positions. Occasionally im selling cash secured puts on margin, and while I try to keep my total outstanding obligations (were I assigned on everything) below my nav, I still use margin and want some compensation for potential huge correction. Right now im looking at buying far otm debit spreads on xsp, pretty affordable for the payout. Curious to learn how y'all stay safe and responsible.

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u/gorram1mhumped — 1 day ago

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u/satireplusplus — 2 days ago

This week in $MU

Ive decided to take a break from weeklies and just want to pay a little less attention to the market in general. Closed all my previous csps out yesterday and I closed all of my naked calls today (tho a tad early).

I think i may have gone too high with $900, $800 wouldve been the smarter option. Dont know if $93X is the bottom but my hope is that the earnings hype brings this back up a bit.

My follow up play is going to be selling 10x dec naked calls next pump. $1200 strike ideally, otherwise $1100

u/Mzungufarmer — 1 day ago

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u/satireplusplus — 3 days ago

Puts secured by Money Market / SGOV

Say I hold a bunch of equities and 50k cash as dry powder in etrade. Selling CSP on this now. If I invested the 50k into a money market fund or SGOV is that not treated as a cash equivalent? As such could I not continue to sell “cash secured” puts against that balance? Would this incur any margin debt so long as the puts remained unassigned or if assigned if the cost of assignment is below the amount held in the money market fund?

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u/shawnthesheepnudi — 2 days ago

Trades I took today as an option seller (08/17) with reasons

Trades I took today as an option seller (08/17):

Closed Positions

  • KORU → $15 Put (opened on 08/12), premium 0.70  closed at 0.11. Net premium profit = 0.59 (~84% of premium captured, ~3.9% of capital).
  • SEI → $60 Put (opened on 07/21), premium 4.60  closed at 0.75. Net premium profit = 3.85 (~84% of premium captured, ~6.4% of capital).
  • PENG → $60 Put (opened on 07/08), premium 6.50  closed at 1.10. Net premium profit = 5.40 (~83% of premium captured, ~9% of capital).

New Positions

  • CRDO → $240 Put expiry 09/04 (3 weeks DTE), premium 12.00 → 1200/24000 = ~5%. CRDO builds high-speed connectivity chips used inside AI datacenters. Earnings due on 1st September hence premiums are higher. They have been giving excellent earnings QoQ.
  • PENG → $60 Put expiry 09/18 (5 weeks DTE), premium 4.10 → 410/6000 = ~6.8%. I reopened PENG, continuing my bullish stance. PENG helps enterprises setup data centers and AI compute, which I see as a growing sector as more companies inheret the use of AI.

CRDO was identified as a High Growth High Premium stock using the ThetaHedge app. The app scans the market for companies with improving growth and profitability that are also offering high option-selling premiums in real time. You can try it for free at https://app.thetahedge.io/

Conditions → High Growth Wheel Stocks

I keep sharing my trades in my account and the Excel file to my full list of positions is linked in my profile description in case anyone wants to see the whole portfolio. Happy to hear thoughts on my positions. What are you guys wheeling or watching right now?

PS: Not financial advice. Do your own research.

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u/ThetaHedge — 2 days ago

Started Trading CSP and CC

My portfolio value is around 85k and I started trading exactly two months ago, mid-June.

Currently, I'm going more conservative with lower deltas, currently going for 0.05-0.15 range, and larger companies. Should I start taking on more risk even though my system is working quite well?

u/ViewOfWineDarkSea — 3 days ago

Anyone selling CSPs or CCs on PLTR/SPCX ?

Title

I own positions in both, so I want to start selling covered calls. Anyone selling these?

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u/Maddy186 — 3 days ago

Daily r/thetagang Discussion Thread - What are your moves for today?

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u/satireplusplus — 4 days ago
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Selling CSP

Started selling CSP.
I go for large companies & sell pretty low deltas.
I'm selling weeklies with delta's between 0.1 - 0.2.

I should probably start taking on a bit more risk if I want to outperform SPY right?

u/on9roger — 5 days ago
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Wheeling Weekly Leverage on my Blown Retirement Account, Week 8

Disclaimer: This is for research purposes.

The strategy is to use leverage to free up more capital for puts & dry powder. Write weekly CSPs on LETFs by selling .06-.10 delta puts. From the weekly profits, DCA shares into a small leveraged position of either LEAPS/LETFs. Eventually, sell covered calls on the LETFs, calling them away when we need to size down.

I rebalanced the retirement account to owning TQQQ only, my other brokerage account will be holding SOXL & RAM. My biggest issue right now is figuring out how big of a portion should I allocate to a leveraged position… Selling calls is starting to underperform the underlying as expected and it seems like a ~90% cash & ~10% leveraged is too conservative. Any insight would be helpful.

approx.
92.3% $USD
7.7% TQQQ

u/davicchi — 4 days ago