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F and E system - is the cold feed pipe in the wrong place?

F and E system - is the cold feed pipe in the wrong place?

Help!

I bought a house that had a new boiler, f& e tank, pump, rads etc about 10 years ago.

The house itself needs ripping back to brick for other reasons, at which point we will replace it all, but we need to make what we have last for 2 more winters, which given the age of the installation, we thought we could eek out.

Unfortunately - it doesn't seem to be wanting to last that long.

When the boiler heats hot water, it forces air into the central heating loop, to an extent that I'm bleeding the lowest radiator in the house daily. I've checked, and the vent pipe sucks air intime with the pump running when the HW demand is on. I assume the air is then being forced through the y valve, as the lowest radiator also heats up If left on for a while.

The corrosion is insane, I assume because of this - I've had a pinhole leak appear on the lowest radiator already that I'm replacing tomorrow.

Attached is a diagram of the system as Ibest as I can work out. The tomkat instructions on pump installation suggests the feed pipe should be installed after the vent pipe but before the pump. It appears mine is installed on the HW return pipe immediately next to the cylinder.

https://youtu.be/wP5EDVNuV5Q?is=BMWWnFtHYdv5-ako

Would I be right in thinking

- Is the source of the problem the cold feed pipe location?

- should be a relatively easy fix for a heating engineer to do? Room is tight around the pump/vent pipe so the vent pay need moving to accomdate it.

My DIY skills end at soldering pipework unfortunately.

We're weighing up just using the immersion for hot water for the next two winters (will cost about a pound a day more - as we're on LPG which isn't cheap) and limiting the heating (log burners do the heavy lifting anyway), but if it's an easy ish fix - I.e. Half a day-full day for a heating engineer to swap the pipe over it might be worth it.

Appreciate any thoughts and prayers.

u/Separate-Worry3280 — 6 hours ago

1/2 alkathene to 15mm copper

Evening,

Just looking for some advice.

I've managed to snap the stopcock under my kitchen sink in the off position. This is an issue as I seem to have no chuffin mains isolation point outside the properly (detached house on a cul-de-sac) and due to that we've discovered Severn Trent have put our water meter on our neighbours supply as this point only isolates their house and not mine, despite the meters serial matching my bill.

They're allegedly coming out on Friday to help locate the mains tap outside.

ANYWAY, the stopcock is 1/2 imperial, it's soldered onto 15mm copper at the top with no fittings and all attached to a 1/2 alkathene mains pipe. I could risk buying and gutting a new 1/2 stopcock but it's not always that straight forward is it.

I'm looking to get this alkathene down to 15mm so I can rework the pipes upto a modern standard and get rid of the imperial shite where possible.

Any recommendations please? All I want to do is go from the alkathene to a 15mm stopcock and I'll figure out the rest from there. I've currently had to slacken the head and have a sacrificial drip in order to get water back in the property. I can't do anything on a live line currently.

Not a plumber, ex hydraulic engineer with tackle for the job. Just need fitting help please.

Picture of the bast attached

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I’ve been building an AI phone receptionist specifically for trades like plumbing, and I wanted to get some real feedback from you guys.

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Hi all,

As part of redorating a bedroom I asked a plumber to remove the radiator so the wall could be replastered. I was asked if I wanted to fit a larger radiator which I'd not thought of. He suggested replacing the 10mm copper pipe with plastic as per this picture which would give options for size and position.

It wasn't the plumber/owner himself who turned up to do the work but it seemed to be going well until he cut the channel into the plasterboard to find less room than he expected leading to him cutting horizontally above the skirting board and fitting 2 elbow joints.

Here's where my concern comes in:

Despite cutting into the brick behind to make room for elbows, they stll standpround of the plasterboard. I have no idea how a plasterer is meant to make this work without looking awful and needing to place the radiator unnaturally low to hide the pipes exit.

I'm also concerned about having a joint in a very inaccessible place in the case of a leak, and it seems they will need to use two elbows to get the pipes to the radiator. Now I realise it's not the highest pressure system but I would have thought putting multiple joints whilst forcing water in a 180 degree direction is not ideal.

I know little about plumbing and would appreciate advice. Should I be righty unhappy with this, and if so can anyone advise what is reasonable to request? They're a well-reviewed company as far as I can tell and I understand not everything goes to the first plan, but I do want it doing right.

Many thanks.

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