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Zen buddhism and mantra repetition

Hello everyone !

I have been attending a Zen dojo in Europe for less than a year. Before that, I attended a Tibetan Buddhist temple, and I really loved the chanting, the colors, and the very sacred atmosphere of that tradition. However, I found it difficult to follow a particular teacher or commit myself to one specific teacher.

At the Zen dojo, the monk gives teachings and we are able to ask questions. This practice has changed my everyday life enormously. I am trying to let go, and I am becoming more aware of the importance of simply being where I am in the present moment. I try to do things as they need to be done, and even when I set myself a goal, I try not to become attached to that goal.

It has also changed my relationship with art. I am a musician, and I realized that I often used to compose with a very specific goal in mind: getting concert opportunities, receiving recognition from other people, etc., rather than simply composing for the sake of composing. In short, Zen has been extremely beneficial to me, and I am considering taking the precepts very soon.

However, part of me is still very attracted to certain aspects of Tibetan Buddhism. I think they feed a certain aspect of my ego, or perhaps a certain idea of spirituality that I simply enjoy. I find Zen very interesting, and I think this simplicity is actually the point: it is very direct and gets to the essence of things. I also think this is exactly what my restless mind needs.

There is one thing I have noticed, though. Repeating a mantra — for example, Om Mani Padme Hum — continuously throughout the day really helps me quiet the inner voice that is constantly talking. It prevents me from getting caught up in a long chain of inner dialogue and thoughts.

Instead of:

thought → scenario → another thought → another scenario → etc.

it becomes more like:

mantra → thought → mantra → thought → etc.

However, I sometimes feel that this practice may not really be in accordance with the Soto Zen tradition. My understanding is that the practice is more about seeing and observing thoughts and inner dialogue, then letting them pass without considering them fundamentally good or bad. When I use a mantra, I sometimes feel that I am doing the opposite, because I am using it to avoid or interrupt the inner monologue.

I’ve always had the feeling that I’m somewhere between the two: Tibetan Buddhism and Zen. I’m fascinated by India and I dream of going there one day, etc. On the other hand, I’m not particularly drawn to Japan, its culture, its atmosphere, etc. It may sound silly to say, but I do think that a country’s culture has an important influence on the way a tradition is lived and experienced.

What do you think about this? In your opinion, is it compatible with Zen practice to use a mantra to occupy the space normally taken up by inner monologue, even when practicing within the Soto Zen tradition?

Thank you in advance for your answers, and take care of yourselves and each other !

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u/Chemical-Lie-1690 — 12 days ago

Considering doing Tara's Triple Excellence. Looking for advice

Hi everyone. As the title says I'm considering doing Tara's Triple Excellence. It's been many years since I became interested in Vajrayana but have been moving around a lot, and in the countries I lived in there is only one temple in one of them (Chadgug Gonpa) which is not very active and doesn't seem to offer a structured curriculum. I've been shying away from the online stuff but have reached the conclusion that if Vajrayana is what I'm inclined to do it's gonna have to be online for the time being. Been looking around for programs and I've found TTE most appealing. Maybe it's because the way they present the curriculum, maybe because they have the introductory 12 days course which layout quite neatly what lies ahead, don't know. Funny thing is I hadn't heard of Choki Nyima before, but I knew about his half brother Yongey Mingyur having read one of his book, and still I'm more drawn to TTE than Tergar for some reason.

Anyway, my main issue with this is that, given that in Vajrayana Guru yoga is essential, and given the fact that I'm barely going to know Choki Rinpoche and he's not going to know me at all, I'm wondering how this would work out. I know that I can do the first and second excellence without empowerment and such, but it still feels weird to have an online guru with whom I have no relationship whatsoever. How does one deal with this? How much sense does it make to follow this path in such conditions?

I'd be grateful for any insights. Best wishes.

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u/Primary-Substance-93 — 13 days ago

Mechanism behind the effect of prostrations?

Hi everyone!

I’m planning to start doing the Diamond Way practices, beginning with prostrations in front of the visualized Refuge Tree. I was wondering what the actual mechanism behind these practices is — how exactly do they affect the mind?

From Lama Ole Nydahl’s book, I understand that the practice works by purifying the inner energy channels in the body. But why is that? How does physically doing prostrations and reciting the Refuge prayer actually bring about this kind of effect on the mind?

Does it just happen “miraculously,” or is there some way to explain how it works?

I’d be interested to hear how this is explained within the Diamond Way tradition, but also how practitioners themselves understand or experience it.

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u/PiotrZa — 13 days ago

Looking for a sakya teacher that does initiations online

Hello everyone

Are there any gurus of the sakya lineage that do initiations (think they are called wang) online either on zoom calls or livestream? Also, are these initiations usually related to a deity like in jenang?

Thank you

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u/Mundane-Offer-7643 — 12 days ago