
r/voyager

Would Janeway have ordered the separation if they weren't main characters?
Same scenario, just not two people she is great friends with/interacts with daily. Two redshirts fuse together. The new being is a great asset to Voyager, more than the sum of their parts and probably increases their chance of getting home.
Do you think Janeway would still order the separation in this circumstance?
MIA Borg Baby
Remember the Borg baby who was just forgotten about in season 6 with the Borg kids? 😂
I wonder why they didn't just include a throw away line about returning it to its species or it not surviving instead of totally forgetting about it?
De-borg
Sorry about that! I realized I’d uploaded a giant image. I’ve corrected it. I’ll get the hang of this.
Thanks for the support, ReddCadets! 🖖
The Tuvix Episode Feels Worse Every Time I Watch It
On our way through all of Star Trek as far as we can get, my wife and I just watched the Tuvix episode, a first time for her maybe, where I've probably seen it a dozen times. It's just wrong what they did, and it's so heart wrenching (which I respect them for at least not making it easy on the audience). It's the equivalent of taking a healthy person, and forcibly removing their organs to bring two people back to life who are already dead.
They're all murderers, mostly Janeway, but also Kess, (who can be forgiven for having the most emotionally at stake), even the doctor while he refused to help did nothing to dissuade her, no one did except the victim.
Honestly it really hurts my enjoyment of the show. Suddenly it's not the good guys exploring space and discovering new things, it becomes a horror show where the people you trust flip a switch in their heads and suddenly are willing to do the worst.
Chakotay: oh that's why.
Currently watching season 6 episode 8 - one small step.
I've always been wondering about the memes about not liking chakotay. Sure his episodes aren't that interesting all the time, but I don't get it he's just kind of middling.
Then I got to about Midway through this episode. Then it finally clicked for me.
Character ranking evolved?
Just watched Threshold again (oh boy!), and noticed the prospect of Paris coming to harm left me quite cold. There's something annoying about his general attitude, and overall I rate him pretty low among the main roster.
So, I'm currently on late season 2, and it's been roughly 5 years since my last run through. Right now I'd rank the main characters in this order:
Janeway
Torres
Tuvok
Doctor
Seven
Kim
Chakotay
Neelix
Paris
Kes
This has changed a fair bit since my first viewing, where Paris and Kim would be switched, probably Tuvok up top and Neelix at the very bottom. I even had more time for Chakotay on first viewing, but that has definitely changed. Janeway has gone up the most in my estimation.
Have your character preferences changed much over the years?
Just finished Voyager, can’t stop thinking about Kes’s purple dress
I am fascinated by the costuming / makeup / prosthetics that Star Trek uses & I haven’t been able to stop thinking about Kes’s purple dress from the first few seasons of Voyager. The cut of the dress, the collar and pleats are so flattering on her and the shades of purple perfectly complement her blonde pixie cut. I found this old blog post with all the details about this costume and thought someone else would probably find it interesting too.
We are working through all of the Star Trek shows now and I think Voyager will end up being my comfort Trek! We just finished Voyager a few days ago and I am already doing a rewatch :)
Voyager, except it’s set in the 1500s
When the brand-new Siennese ship Viareggio is sent to deal with some corsairs on an island near Bajor, everything seems like it's going swimmingly. But after she enters a vicious storm in the Atlantic and exits it just southeast of Australia, her intrepid crew must set about on a long journey home. Along the way, they will encounter sea monsters, ghost ships, islands with all manner of peoples, and a massive zombie pirate fleet bent on taking the vessel and everything on it!
Caterina Jacobini: Basically just Janeway’s character in the da Vinci simulations, I guess.
Seven o’ Nine: Cured zombie.
Mr. Neely: A Scottish castaway who has invented strange new recipes from the limited resources of his island.
Kes: A mermaid who kept Neely company while he was stranded.
Tuvok: A member of the ancient Cult of Vulcan, which was blessed with great wisdom and long life by the eponymous Roman fire god.
Tom of Paris: A wisecracking, occasionally irresponsible, but talented helmsman.
Ha-jun Kim: Fresh-faced, eager eternal ensign.
Chalmecatl: A Nahua former pirate captain who raided Spanish galleons, now Jacobini’s second-in-command.
B’Elanna Torres: A half-human, half-shark engineer. I thought a tiger shark fit her personality best.
Probus: A ghostly Roman doctor kept in a terracotta jar.
Queen of the Dead: Leader of the zombies pursuing the ship, the Queen is determined to reassimilate Seven.
Naomi Whaleman: “How do I put a new spin on Naomi? … Screw it, just make her a narwhal.”
Icheb: Another de-zombified crewmember, recognizable by the barnacles permanently embedded on his nose and forehead.
Probus’ mobile emitter: crab
You will be assimilated.
Ok, maybe not … but I wanted to post some fan art here & get to know my fellow Trekkies. :) 🖖
If only one could be reclaimed from tuvix who would you choose?
Wouldn’t the captain need a tactical officer more than a mess hall attendant?
Yet another Deadlock discussion
Rewatching VOY in my 30s and I don’t quite get the ending of the Deadlock.
Ensign Wildman lost her baby, she cried near the dead body of her daughter. How could she be satisfied with a supplement baby from another ship? Even if genetically perfectly hers, it is just not the same baby she gave birth to, she saw her baby dead.
The same is true with Harry. These are the same people with the same memories, yet they are not his crew. And they ended this story plot with “The job at Star Fleer is about weird things” at the end.
Like, WHAAAAAAAAT
I see a huge potential for identity crisis for at least three of them - Harry, Ensign Wildman and Naomi in case she ever knows that her mom died in the Delta Quadrant. But as soon as I remember watching it back then, this topic will never be addressed again.
How come Tuvok never made tea for Janeway? What does Captain Sulu have that she doesn't?
What films have the main cast appeared in?
Excluding guest stars like Brad Dourif.
The main ones I know about:
Tim Russ: Spaceballs
Robert Beltran: Lone Wolf McQuade
Robert Picardo: Inner Space, The Howling
Any other fairly mainstream films I've overlooked?
I could ask ChatGPT, but this is more fun. :)
Edit: for those who need the clarification, the above throwaway AI example was a playful reference to how this mode of engagement with technology is at the center of everything right now. I think most people got that.
Curzdo
There is always this discussion around Tuvix but the Curzon/Odo hybrid was a sentient being first. Right or wrong, Janeways decision with Tuvix should apply morally the same way with Curzdo. DS9 did it both cleaner and dirtier on differant levels but at the end of the day both combined beings became unique and wanted to stay that way overall.