u/Aggressive-Tackle774

It's still baffling to me that people still believe Goku was capable of beating Cell at his current power level and downplay how powerful Gohan truly was. I had a comment state that Goku lied and says "he was just propping up his son and had already access to ss2 at that point" after I provided not only the exact episode number and title to prove that Goku confirmed that Gohan was stronger/more powerful than him. I hate that I fall for ragebait but shit its an annoying itch to scratch in correcting people because they clearly remember a lot of shit wrong and put so many inferences on things that was never stated or even have evidence of stating otherwise to back those claims. Smh

After seeing their performances in showcases each one being buffed as best as they can, they both seemed screwed. Goku having a great model but crappy animation moveset, proned to card destruction, ki reduction and arts sealing. So for an offense melee character that needs to stack damage it leaves him pretty vulnerable. Despite the perk of having a combo break counter mechanic like TVB, type disadvantage can still hurt him or be a brick wall to him. And man, Jiren's equip makes him anime accurate against this Goku.

Toppo, is just overall screwed, low balled and tossed aside like a bowling bowl to the gutter. A red defense character that can be shredded by Go17 or other blue units that's still relevant, attack stats definitely lacking, animations are on par with SSBK. His revive nullification and card destruction is what brings the most value to him but damn did they screw him over the most. Practically throwing him in as a consolation prize for summoning on the banner. It's practically Krillin on Ultra Namekus banner, the difference is that his two powerful skills are extremely useful and is a lot more convenient to use than Buubros prep time yet Buubros still offer more value because of AOE damage and disrupt.

Practically both were screwed, and can't be excused as a budget release coz then it's 2 units thats given very minimal effort of design and care just so it can prop up new units coming. Might as well have kept them in the lab for a bit and give them better treatment and time frame to release. Because it seemed like this Goku was rushed to hard counter Broly and Toppo is just a third wheel to the pride trooper buff to complete the trio but it's a very poor attempt at diversifying teams outside of celebration.

And people are questioning why he wasn't the LR smh

If the only valid reason to defend him is the model and a counter to Broly then you might be the right target market but I hate to tell ya, this unit is disappointing on more than one case. The cons outweigh the pros

Why most are disappointed and valid:

1)Yes. it should have been the one with spirit bomb if it was gonna be a Goku unit. You can't expect people to like an LF to be another generic Kamehameha. We have a crap ton of Goku units that has that LF animation to begin with.

2)It makes no sense to buff pride troopers and then pull a 180 to a Saiyan unit. Saiyans are still dominant in the meta and now God ki gets an extra buff.

3. The animation sequence is mediocre. There's no way I can actually say it's good. I can try but it's mid/basic. The LF is even being compared to 7th Anniversary Kaioken Goku. It's an amazing model but no sauce to the moveset, or change up to the presentation.

4)This version didn't even turn the fight around against Jiren. This is an in-between Goku after him and Vegeta powered up and, probably after Vegeta was beaten to the ground, with no success in turning the tide of battle with Jiren. This form was just practically fighting to exhaustion with Jiren and still loses before he transformed to UI, so I can't see that being a hype moment. Am I missing something?🤷

Y'all can add to the cons or pros but I can't see a reasonable defense when the cons outweigh the pros where the only pros are

1. His model looks incredible

2. He's a direct counter to Broly and his transformation gauge counter.

The fact that they low balled Toppo as another Sparking. They released 2 F2P Sparking Jiren over the last 3 years, threw a unique equip, Zenkai awaken Dyspo seemed like it was for nothing because Legends devs can't properly design other characters so they neglect them or designate a shitty position for them.

Remember Majuub? There's only 2 rarities of him; Extreme and Sparking. And that's pretty sad to look at because units like him have potential to run in game that's away from main cast and fill in slots prior to major celebrations, and add variety.

Definitely looking forward to another survey from them.

Saw some posts about this video circlating and I gotta admit, I am mixed on the idea of an Ultra Evo drop. I would love a premium Vegeta unit drop but this ain't it tbh. We are past Anniversary and the hype has died down plus we had the pride troopers get buffed so I honestly prefer an LR Toppo( even an Ultra would be decent) at least let it end on an optional premium like how LF Omega Shenron released after UG4. god Ki team is already filled with UGB2, UVB and LR Shallet or even the f2p Vados. And Saiyan's already got Buu Bros and the fusions.

So either this Veget has to be as busted as UMV was or even better than UV4 was to last until part 1 Fest or it's a waste and he will die off quickly. Give it to Toppo at least buff Uni rivals and PO units and then we can circle back to Uni reps or God ki saiyans.

This was that one mission that pissed me off the most because Nappa always one shotted my units at every point😫but finally after trial and error this team made it through

edit: I forgot to mention it's the "complete stage with 6 mission execution" if anyone is wondering and might be struggling with it too. This was the team I used and they are decent overall as long as you get your Dabura and a friend/guests dabura on separate rotations and put Broly in slot 3 so that he can tank better after his super attack lands.

My boy is ready for that plat

The day the two gets a Zenkai awakening with unique equips, and UBG gets a plat, they will fuck shit up. I can already imagine how busted this will be one day

I have tried using my usual teams: Battle of fate, GT heroes, Son Family, Saiyans, Hybrids to clear this fight but mf hits like a damn train in his last phase. Can anyone recommend a team to beat him with. Tired of being so close only to get one shotted. Heres my box so far. Let me know you're team builds if you cleared him.

Welp, might as well forget UVB because this would be horrible timing. I may not have old UGB but I do hope it's him, since it's been a long time coming. It be fucking wild if it's UG4, I don't wanna give into any false hope after seeing UV4 on the boost system. So reasonably it would make sense for UGB to get one.

But if it's that demon we all know and love(I mean hate) then y'all better be ready to get that spirit bomb up fast(UMV). Although, what are the chances the "you're not that tough" spawn would get one😏

Dear Hype judges

For all the years y'all delegated what was "celebration worthy"(Anni or Fest) y'all shat on every suggestion and prediction that was considered mid or ass. Now here we are, a touched up version of Blue bros in Ultra form. Touching moment in Z yet similar pose, same element, same condition to win😌

Talked so much shit about reused characters and now we remade a LL character. And for y'all that hated MUI being an Ultra to end of Part 3 because y'all don't wanna deal with an auto gauge now y'all gonna have to glaze this unit to convince others it's hype when deep down younger you would have spat in your face if you ever time traveled back to tell your younger self that this would be an Ultra. But proceed to glaze him so you can spite folks who wanted MUI😂

And I'll just come up with a list of mid characters for Anniversary and Fest because it's now okay to promote it like Blue bros up here.

Seen on twitter Goresh posed a question I have probably asked a while back; when is the correct time?

Like legit how long is it gonna be a consistent complaint about getting this unit that's been anticipated for years now. Like to some degree I understand that nobody wants passive players yet when should we expect him then? He's gonna be released one way or another even if you don't consent. I'd rather get him out of the way so we can continue to move on to other units especially with Galactic patrol coming up which you know is another UI unit down the line. So either way, we just gotta embrace that he's coming...

I have never really asked this question before. I tried looking it up thinking it's gotta be Buu since he's stronger, has a Kaishin part of him, greater stamina and ki and so on but then Google mentions Dende is and I am trying to find sources that either further proves that or debunks it. Anyone here got any panels as references or info that I can check to see who is a better a healer.

And I had so much more stuff I wanted to do before dealing the final blow. Oh well😂

Now I gotta catch up with y'all crossing into 1 year of playing Dokkan.