I’m not criticizing HOTD because I enjoy hating it. I’m criticizing it because I care about George’s work.

I keep seeing this argument that if you dislike House of the Dragon so much, why are you still watching it? Why keep talking about it? Why can't you just enjoy the show for what it is?

And I think that completely misunderstands where a lot of the frustration comes from.

I didn't go into this show wanting to hate it. I actually really enjoyed Season 1. I was optimistic about the show and completely understood that changes had to be made because that's what happens when you adapt a book to television. I'm not expecting Fire & Blood to be copied word for word.

The problem for me is that this universe matters to me largely because of George's writing. So knowing that the person who created this world feels like his story, characters and intentions are being disregarded fundamentally changes my ability to enjoy the adaptation.

That's the part I can't just turn off.

George obviously isn't perfect. The man needs to finish his books, he can be stubborn, and I don't think an author should automatically have veto power over every creative decision in an adaptation.

But there's a massive difference between "we had to change this because we're adapting a history book into television" and reaching the point where the actual creator is publicly criticizing what you're doing and clearly feels like his concerns about his own story aren't being respected.

At that point, I'm sorry, the dragons looking cool isn't enough for me.

The show can have incredible actors. It can have beautiful cinematography, amazing costumes, massive battles and some genuinely great individual scenes. I can acknowledge all of that. But none of it magically makes my discomfort with how George and his work have been treated disappear.

And that's why I really dislike the idea that critics are somehow trying not to enjoy the show.

A lot of us are angry precisely because we wanted to enjoy it.

If I didn't care about ASOIAF, I wouldn't care what they changed. I wouldn't care what George said. I'd watch the dragons burn shit for an hour and move on with my life.

But I do care.

And when the creator of this universe is essentially saying, "This isn't what I intended," I can't completely separate that knowledge from what I'm watching and pretend everything happening behind the scenes doesn't matter because the production values are good.

Other people obviously can, and that's fine. If you can completely separate HOTD from George and judge it entirely as its own television series, I genuinely understand why you might be having a much better time with it than I am.

But I can't.

That's really the difference.

I'm not sitting here desperately searching for reasons to be miserable. I just have an emotional attachment to the original work and the person who created it, and watching an adaptation increasingly become something its own creator seems alienated from leaves a horrible taste in my mouth.

You don't have to feel the same way. But I don't think the answer is telling disappointed fans to shut up, stop criticizing it and enjoy the pretty dragons.

For some of us, respecting the story behind those pretty dragons was the entire reason we cared in the first place.

I really dislike what HOTD has done with Nettles and Rhaena, and I hate that whenever I criticize it people immediately assume the complaint is “Black people shouldn't be in Westeros.” That's not my problem at all. I'm Black. I WANT Black characters in fantasy. My problem is how shallow the representation feels.

I actually like the idea of the Velaryons being Black. What bothers me is that the writers seemingly had no interest in making that change part of the world. Give them Summer Islander ancestry. Give us some history explaining how this branch of an ancient Valyrian house came to look different from the Targaryens. Explore what that means in a society obsessed with bloodlines, ancestry and physical appearance. You could do so much interesting worldbuilding with it.

Instead they basically say “it's fantasy, there are dragons, why can't Black people exist?” Which is a strawman. Obviously Black people can exist in fantasy. The question is how these people fit into THIS specific fictional society.

Westeros is incredibly prejudiced. These people discriminate over class, gender, bastardy, religion, nationality, whether you're Dornish, whether you're a wildling, what family you were born into, etc. I don't need Westeros to suddenly have American-style racism, but pretending skin color wouldn't even be acknowledged feels bizarre. Especially in a story where who your parents are and what you look like is literally central to the plot.

And that's what makes Nettles bother me so much.

I'm not claiming I know why the writers merged her storyline with Rhaena. I'm talking about how the OUTCOME looks.

The show race-swaps the Velaryons, making Rhaena a young Black woman, and then apparently decides we don't need Nettles anymore and gives one of the most important parts of her story to Rhaena. So somehow a decision praised for increasing Black representation results in us LOSING an entire female character who could have also been played by a Black actress.

And Nettles and Rhaena aren't interchangeable! Rhaena is a princess. She's Daemon's legitimate daughter, raised in one of the most powerful families in the world and has unquestioned Valyrian ancestry. Nettles is a lowborn outsider whose ability to tame Sheepstealer raises fascinating questions about who can actually claim dragons and whether Valyrian blood is even necessary.

Giving Sheepstealer to Rhaena completely changes that.

It also just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that apparently two young Black female dragonriders can't simply coexist as separate characters. Again, I'm not saying that was consciously the reasoning. I'm saying that's the result we ended up with, and I think Black fans are allowed to find that uncomfortable without being told we're racist for criticizing “representation.”

What bothers me even more is how easily criticism from Black fans who DON'T like these decisions seems to get dismissed. If you're going to defend changes by saying they're important for people like me to see ourselves represented, then our opinions can't suddenly stop mattering when some of us say, “Actually, this doesn't make me feel represented.”

Black people aren't a monolith. Seeing someone with my skin color doesn't automatically make me connect with them. I can connect deeply with characters of any race or gender because that's literally what storytelling is supposed to allow us to do.

And diversity shouldn't just mean Black people either. Why does American fantasy casting so often seem to treat “white cast + some Black actors” as the default definition of diversity? Where are the Indigenous people? South Asians? East Asians? Middle Eastern people? Pacific Islanders? There are so many ways to build a genuinely diverse fantasy world.

I don't want fewer Black characters. I want MORE thought put into them.

Don't just change a character's race, collect praise for representation, refuse to explore what that change means within the world, and then cut another character whose role could have gone to another Black actress.

That's not the kind of representation I find empowering. It feels incredibly surface level, and I wish people would stop treating Black fans who say that like we're somehow arguing against our own existence on screen.

I’m tired of criticism about Helaena and Maelor being dismissed as “book purism.” I’m not mad because HOTD changed something. I’m mad because I think the changes fundamentally weakened Helaena’s character and the tragedy surrounding her.

Book Helaena doesn’t get much page time, but we still know she’s kind, loved by the people, a dragonrider, devoted to her children, and capable of courage. That’s why “kill me instead” was THE moment I wanted from Blood and Cheese.

It’s such a small line, but it tells you everything about her. Two men threaten to murder one of her sons and her immediate response is to offer her own life. She’s powerless to stop them, but she still tries to protect her children.

The show replaces that with her offering a necklace, identifying Jaehaerys, and then quietly leaving with Jaehaera while Blood and Cheese are somehow both occupied killing a little boy. She doesn’t scream for help or alert anyone. Beyond being weirdly staged, it takes one of Helaena’s few moments of genuine courage and removes it.

And I actually like the IDEA of autistic-coded Helaena. What bothers me is how often the show seems to equate her neurodivergence with passivity and emotional detachment. Why couldn’t autistic Helaena still be confident, beloved by the smallfolk, close to Dreamfyre and fiercely protective of her children? None of those things contradict being autistic.

Then there’s Maelor.

Whenever people defend cutting him, they say, “Did you really want to watch a toddler get ripped apart by a mob?”

Obviously not. You don’t have to SHOW that.

Game of Thrones depicted Cersei’s purge of Robert’s bastard children through framing, sound and reaction shots without graphically showing babies being murdered. HOTD could have done exactly the same thing.

And that excuse becomes even stranger considering HOTD made Jaehaerys’s death MORE prolonged than the book. Blood decapitates him quickly in Fire & Blood. The show makes us listen while they slowly saw through his neck. Apparently implying Maelor’s death would be too disturbing, but THAT wasn’t?

More importantly, Maelor actually serves a purpose.

The horror of Blood and Cheese isn’t supposed to be how physically difficult it is to kill Jaehaerys. It’s psychological. Helaena is forced to choose which son dies. She chooses Maelor, they murder Jaehaerys instead, and make sure Maelor knows his mother chose him.

That trauma matters later. Helaena loses Jaehaerys, becomes increasingly isolated, her family falls apart, her remaining children are taken from her, and Maelor eventually dies horribly. Her suicide is the endpoint of accumulating grief and trauma.

That’s painfully human. She doesn’t need prophecy to make her tragedy meaningful.

And THAT is my problem with these changes. Remove enough causes while still trying to reach the same outcomes and eventually those outcomes stop feeling earned.

“It’s an adaptation, changes happen” doesn’t answer that criticism. I know adaptations make changes. I’m saying THESE changes made the story worse.

I didn’t need HOTD to copy Fire & Blood word for word. I wanted them to understand why these things existed before removing them.

I wanted them to EXPAND Helaena.

Instead, it feels like they replaced her.

I need him to fall in love with a water tribe Prince.

I've seen a lot of people dismiss the Dark Avatar theory for Seven Havens because Vaatu supposedly can't return for another 10,000 years, or because Unalaq dying ended the Dark Avatar cycle permanently. But I don't think either of those arguments is actually as definitive as people make them sound. First, Vaatu doesn't necessarily have to wait 10,000 years to be reborn. Ten thousand years is the period between Harmonic Convergences, but the show never clearly establishes that a destroyed Raava or Vaatu literally remains nonexistent for that entire period.

We actually see evidence of the opposite. When Raava is destroyed during Harmonic Convergence, she begins regenerating inside Vaatu almost immediately, and Korra is able to pull her back out that same day. So why couldn't the same thing happen to Vaatu? After Korra destroys him, Vaatu should begin regenerating inside Raava. That doesn't mean he's immediately powerful enough to emerge independently. He could spend thousands of years slowly growing stronger inside her under normal circumstances. But existing inside Raava and being powerful enough to separate from her are two completely different things.

And Korra's situation is anything but normal. She reunites with a reborn Raava after Vaatu's destruction, meaning the Avatar spirit now potentially contains Raava with a regenerating Vaatu inside her. That's something no previous Avatar cycle has ever dealt with.

Then Korra eventually dies and the Avatar reincarnates... into twins.

That's exactly where I think something could go wrong with the normal reincarnation process. Vaatu wouldn't even need to independently resurrect. The reincarnation itself could separate the two spirits, with one twin inheriting Raava and the other inheriting Vaatu.

And personally, I hope it's Pavi with Vaatu and Nisha with Raava, because the opposite feels almost too obvious considering how aggressively their designs and names seem to suggest it. The other criticism I keep seeing is that Unalaq died while fused with Vaatu, therefore the Dark Avatar cycle was permanently destroyed because dying in the Avatar State ends the Avatar cycle.

But I think people are conflating ending an Avatar's reincarnation cycle with permanently destroying Raava or Vaatu. Raava and Vaatu explicitly cannot be permanently destroyed. One eventually regenerates from within the other. So whatever "dying in the Avatar State ends the cycle" actually means, it can't mean the primordial spirit itself ceases to exist forever. We also literally watched Korra become separated from Raava, watched Raava die, and then watched Korra fuse with her again and remain the Avatar. So clearly the human-spirit bond can be broken and subsequently recreated.

Unalaq dying could therefore have ended his Dark Avatar lineage without making it metaphysically impossible for Vaatu to ever bond with another human again. And honestly, Seven Havens would be the perfect opportunity to finally explain what that actually means.

Unalaq barely gave us a real Dark Avatar. He fused with Vaatu, became a giant spirit monster and died almost immediately. We never learned what a genuine Vaatu-based Avatar cycle would look like, how their Avatar State would work, whether they could access multiple elements, or whether being bonded with Vaatu automatically makes someone evil. Having Pavi be Vaatu's Avatar would let us explore all of that through our protagonist instead of another generic evil Dark Avatar villain.

It could even finally complicate the overly simplistic idea that Raava = good and Vaatu = evil. They're spirits of light/order and darkness/chaos. A genuinely good person carrying Vaatu could force the story to ask whether darkness and chaos are inherently evil, or whether both forces actually have a necessary place in maintaining balance.

So no, I don't think the Dark Avatar theory is confirmed. That mysterious red-and-black figure could still be something completely different.

I just don't think "Vaatu can't come back for 10,000 years" or "Unalaq permanently ended Vaatu's Avatar cycle" debunks it either.

The lore is considerably more ambiguous than that—and Korra's death followed by an Avatar being born as a twin gives the writers a pretty obvious way to exploit that ambiguity.

I really don't buy the argument that giving the Gen V characters a bigger role would've confused people who didn't watch Gen V. It would've been incredibly easy to integrate them without requiring anyone to watch another show.

Have Annie introduce them as escaped Godolkin students who were experimented on by Vought and are now fighting against Homelander. That's basically all the general audience needs to know. You don't need two seasons of exposition. Their powers and personalities can be established naturally through the story.

Marie especially practically writes herself into the plot. Have Annie explain that her blood powers might actually be capable of hurting Homelander. Suddenly everyone understands why she's important. Butcher would immediately recognize her usefulness and probably want to use her as a weapon, while Marie wouldn't necessarily be okay with that. There's already an interesting conflict right there.

And she doesn't even have to kill Homelander. Maybe she can affect his blood but his durability makes it extremely difficult. Maybe she can injure or temporarily immobilize him but nearly kills herself doing it. There are a million ways to pay off everything Gen V established about her without having her randomly defeat the main villain.

The rest of the Gen V cast could've joined the resistance and contributed based on their abilities without replacing the main Boys characters. They represent a younger generation of supes who were raised inside Vought's system and chose to rebel against it, which honestly feels pretty fitting for the final season.

And if someone watching The Boys thinks, "Who the hell is Marie and why is she so powerful?" GOOD. Maybe they'll go watch Gen V. That's how a spinoff should work. The main show gives you enough information to understand the character, while the spinoff gives you the deeper context.

This really wasn't some impossible writing challenge. A few minutes of exposition spread across multiple episodes would've been enough. Stop blaming the general audience for writers choosing not to use characters they themselves spent years building up.

I’ve shipped Neteyam and Aonung since before The Way of Water even came out, mostly because I noticed they were around the same age and occupied very similar positions in their families. They’re both the eldest sons of important leaders, both have expectations placed on them because of who their fathers are, and they feel like natural parallels to each other. Then after actually watching the movie, I felt like there were moments between them that could genuinely be interpreted as having some romantic tension or chemistry, especially with how they’re sometimes framed alongside the much more obvious Lo’ak and Tsireya relationship.

I’m not saying Neteyam and Aonung were secretly canon or that James Cameron was definitely planning to make them a couple. Obviously that was never confirmed. I just think there was enough there that imagining their relationship eventually developing into something romantic if Neteyam had survived is a perfectly reasonable interpretation.

What frustrates me is how hostile some people get toward that interpretation. Suddenly it’s “Why can’t two guys just be friends?” or we’re “forcing an agenda” and “seeing things that aren’t there.” But people ship male and female characters over practically nothing all the time and nobody demands they prove those characters are attracted to each other first. Two characters being friends also doesn’t mean they could never develop romantic feelings for each other.

I especially dislike when people call the ship creepy or accuse adult fans of sexualizing minors simply because they think two teenage characters would make a cute couple. There’s obviously a difference between shipping teenage characters romantically and actually sexualizing them. And it feels incredibly hypocritical when some of the same people saying Neteyam/Aonung is inappropriate are perfectly comfortable wanting Lo’ak and Tsireya to kiss or become an official couple when they’re also teenagers.

Then there’s the argument that Na’vi somehow can’t be gay because we haven’t seen an explicitly gay Na’vi onscreen yet, which makes no sense to me. Not seeing something yet doesn’t establish that it doesn’t exist. Nobody needs to see every possible kind of heterosexual relationship before assuming straight Na’vi exist, so why should homosexuality require some special level of proof before we’re even allowed to imagine it?

People don’t have to ship Neteyam and Aonung. Someone can watch their scenes and see absolutely nothing romantic between them, and that’s fine. What bothers me is acting like the opposite interpretation is inherently delusional, perverted, or agenda-driven. I can acknowledge that they were never canon while still thinking they had chemistry and could have made sense as a couple if Neteyam had lived.

To me, saying they definitely would have become a couple is speculation. But saying there was absolutely no possibility of it and anyone who sees potential between them is imagining things is speculation too.

My theory is that Kiri is an Avatar Eywa created for herself, while Spider is being prepared to carry a piece of Eywa back to Earth. After Grace died and became part of Eywa, Eywa used her Avatar to create Kiri, basically doing the Avatar program in reverse. Humans created Avatars to enter the Na'vi world, while Eywa created Kiri so she could exist as an individual within theirs.

I think this explains why Kiri has such a strange connection with Eywa. She can connect with Pandora more deeply than anyone else, but directly connecting to Eywa overwhelms her. The "firewall" could actually be protecting Kiri because she's basically trying to connect back into herself. When she finally sees Eywa in Fire and Ash, I think the figure she sees is a projection of herself, possibly an older Kiri. Kiri is Eywa's Avatar without realizing what she actually is.

I also think the Woodsprite Spider touches in The Way of Water is the same one Eywa later sends when he's dying. Woodsprites seem to act as Eywa's messengers, so that first touch may have allowed it to imprint on Spider and understand his biology. Later, Eywa guides Kiri into placing its living seed inside him. That's why the scientists find living mycelium inside Spider keeping him alive. Spider isn't just adapted to Pandora now—he's carrying a living seed of Eywa.

I think Eywa's plan is eventually for Spider to bring that seed to Earth. Moving billions of humans to Pandora isn't realistic, especially when travel takes years and humanity would eventually overwhelm Pandora's ecosystem anyway. Instead, Spider could plant Eywa's seed on Earth, allowing it to spread through Earth's remaining plant and fungal networks and rebuild the connection humanity lost. Earth wouldn't become Pandora; it would become a healthy, connected version of Earth, where humans could eventually connect with their world and ancestors like the Na'vi do.

Spider may even have to sacrifice himself to plant it, becoming the first human consciousness stored within Earth's new network. His entire life he's been caught between humanity and the Na'vi, but maybe his purpose was never to become Na'vi. Kiri is Eywa reaching into the world as an individual, while Spider is the bridge carrying her gift back to humanity. Humans came to Pandora trying to take what they needed to save Earth, but in the end Eywa willingly gives them a piece of salvation instead.

My theory is that Varang is already pregnant with Quaritch's child by the end of Fire and Ash, and I think their relationship is intentionally being set up as a darker parallel to Jake and Neytiri. Jake was a human who entered a Na'vi body, became separated from humanity, fell in love with a Na'vi woman and eventually became part of her people. Quaritch is basically going through his own dark version of that journey. He's now permanently in an Avatar body, becoming closer to Varang and the Mangkwan, and slowly becoming someone different from the human Miles Quaritch.

That's why I think all the sexual and romantic buildup between Varang and Quaritch is going somewhere. Obviously sex doesn't automatically mean pregnancy, but Avatar has become so focused on family, children and legacy that I think there could be a larger reason their relationship was made so explicitly physical. Neytiri was already pregnant with Neteyam during the final battle of the first movie and we only learned that later, so I could easily see Avatar 4 revealing that Varang was already carrying Quaritch's child during the final battle of Fire and Ash. It would be another parallel between the two couples without their stories needing to be exactly the same.

And I'm not saying we know Varang wants children. I'm saying we don't know that she doesn't. Being violent, ruthless or even willing to hurt other people's children doesn't automatically mean someone wouldn't want or love their own. Varang killing her father doesn't tell us how she'd feel about her own child either. She could reject motherhood completely, genuinely want a family, want an heir to continue her rule, or have complicated feelings about all of it. We haven't been shown enough of her inner life to know yet, so I think saying she'd obviously abort or kill her own child because she's "crazy" is making just as many assumptions about her character as anything else.

I also don't think "not every female character needs to be a mother" really argues against this particular theory. I completely agree that female characters shouldn't automatically be given babies just because they're women, but that's not why I think Varang could have one. I'm looking at this specific relationship and the setup surrounding it. Varang is a powerful leader who cares deeply about the future of the Mangkwan and clearly believes in her own way of leading them. If she wants that way of life to continue after she's gone, having an heir she can raise and mold herself actually makes sense for someone as controlling and distrustful as she seems to be.

And Varang becoming a mother wouldn't have to soften or redeem her. She could genuinely love her child and still be exactly the same ruthless person toward everyone else. If anything, motherhood could make some of her existing traits stronger. Her protectiveness could become possessiveness, her concern for the Mangkwan could become an obsession with her child's future, and eventually she could have to deal with the fact that her child is their own person who might not believe everything she does. I think that's much more interesting than assuming a villain is somehow incapable of loving their own family.

The time jump in Avatar 4 also makes the timing feel almost too convenient. If Varang gives birth before or around the beginning of the movie and then we jump forward several years, we skip the baby stage and suddenly their child is around Tuk's age or a little older. They'd be old enough to have their own personality and actually become part of the story instead of just being a pregnancy or baby in the background.

The part I find most interesting though is Quaritch potentially having two children who represent his two different lives. Spider is the biological son of the original human Miles Quaritch, while Varang's child would actually be the biological child of Recom Quaritch. Technically Spider's father died before this Quaritch even existed, yet Recom Quaritch inherited his memories and has clearly developed a real attachment to Spider anyway. Meanwhile a child with Varang would unquestionably be his, conceived after he became this new person.

That could create such a weird and interesting family dynamic. Quaritch would have the chance to actually raise this child in a way he never raised Spider while still seeing Spider as his son. Varang could see their child as the future of the Mangkwan while Quaritch develops his own ideas about who they're supposed to become. And eventually their child could grow up and disagree with both of them, which would be especially interesting for two extremely controlling parents who expect their children to become what they want.

So I'm definitely not saying this has to happen, but I think there's enough setup that I wouldn't be surprised if it does. Jake and Neytiri built a family as Jake left his human life behind and became Na'vi. Varang and Quaritch could be the darker reflection of that, building their own family while Quaritch becomes increasingly disconnected from the human man he used to be.

If Avatar 4 eventually reveals that Varang was already pregnant during Fire and Ash, I don't think it would feel like a random twist at all. It would feel like another part of Quaritch's transformation that had been sitting in front of us the whole time. Spider is the son of the human life Quaritch inherited. Varang's child would be the first child of the new life he's actually creating for himself.

I've heard rumors ever since Seven Havens was announced that he'd be our first on screen gay male character in the Avatar universe. I would love it if that's the case, his character design is very pretty and from the little dialogue we've heard of him and his scenes in the teaser he looks and sounds like a kind and competent warrior. I hope he becomes a surrogate big brother to Pavi and Nisha, that would be a beautiful found family story to watch.

Also if he is gay I hope that's not the only thing his character is about and that his story is more about connecting with his airbender ancestry and being a guardian for Pavi and Nisha. But if they do give us a romance for him they better not make it queer bait. If they make him gay they need to show a m/m kiss on screen but if paramount won't allow that just don't even bother hinting at it, just make him straight and save us queer fans the heartache.

Hopefully in the year of our Lord 2026 we can have a openly gay male character in a "kids" show without having to be weird about it or hide it under subtext for conservative viewers. Either go big or go home. I'm tired of begging for scraps. I trust the creators to do it well if they want because they championed Korrasami but I don't have any faith in paramount to let them just do it so we'll see.

I really like the idea of exploring these concepts and characters from legend of Korra again, I loved the beginnings episodes part 1 and 2 probably my favorite episodes of that season. Every time I watch the scene of Wan and Rava fusing and here her say "we are bonded forever" over the Avatar theme it gives me goosebumps every time. It's amazing, I love it.

Rava and Vaatu basically represent Ying and Yang, with them literally being born from each other when one dies symbolizing how there's always a piece of each in the other, they're almost the same soul but split asunder. They cant exist without the other. So Vaatu will come back, that's a fact. It's just a matter of when.

Rava and Vaatu weren't pro or anti human before Wan, Wan's will and determination is what changed Rava into an Avatar spirit of peace not just a Spirit of light and order. He showed her what humanity is capable of.

I personally believe when Korra killed Unavaatu, his spirit didn't go back into Rava like it was supposed to because Rava is longer just a Spirit she's an Avatar spirit, forever bound to one human soul which reincarnates into infinity. Rava by joining with a human gave up her immortality and divinity to live and die as a mortal just like the Moon Spirit did. That's literally what the word Avatar translates to, a god taking on a mortal form to walk amongst their people. I also think all humans reincarnate in this world but because the Avatar soul is a spirit they have a stronger connection to their past lives then most humans, able to actually talk to them and gain their power.

Because Unalak and Vaatu fused all the negative traits of Unalak only amplified the spirit of chaos and darkness. Vaatu doesn't care about humans, he says so himself he lived 10000 lifetimes before the first humans crawled out of the mud, he literally watched humans evolve from fish of course he would think they're no better then any other animals. That doesn't make him evil in my opinion since he's so beyond human conceptions of right and wrong and good and bad.

And I think that's what will happen with the dark Avatar and Vaatu. I would love if the twin holding Vaatu is actually Pavi - and through her Vaatu can experience a human life and that could fundamentally change him, we clearly see these spirits are capable of changing their minds since Rava does. So I don't thinks it's impossible. All the ominous music and red light could be an intentional misdirection. And quite frankly, it'd be boring if he's the villain again, I don't wanna watch the light Avatar and dark Avatar fight for 4 seasons. I want them to be a team going towards a common goal maybe they'll be at adds at some point but they should always come back together to save humanity.

That should be the new avatar cycle, a cycle of two but one story. A world that needs chaos and order to save it.

What if he has regeneration powers similar to a Supe like Kimiko? If a Supe with that same power but stronger exploded they could possibly self regenerate from their brain or head or something. It's not impossible, such things have happened in comic books and Kimiko has been shot in the head and torn apart and regrew herself so we've already seen it as a possibility in the Boys universe. Yeah it's unlikely but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen. If the writers decided it did.

His remains are a bloody mess after his death and we see the Vought cleanup crew put chunks of him into body bags and carry him away. That's the last we see of his remains what if they took his remains to study or do something evil with per usual hut notice his head is healing and spine regrowing slowly. I don't expect healing from what he did would be quick so what if they hold him in containment while he's regrowing. Vought has secret bunkers all over the world, they could stash him anywhere.

Why would Vought keep him or care about him I don't know? Maybe they wanna use his cells to make anti aging gel or something, if he has super healing he could be a valuable lab subject. Or they wanna put him back out in the public as himself but now fully under their control. Golden Boy coming back form the dead wouldn't be the craziest thing to happen in their world, he and Vought could claim God remade him in a better form or whatever bs. He'll fit their christ allegory perfectly and probably be a lot more stable and controllable then Homelander.

This is just a what if, I know we'll never see Gen V characters again.

I get she was pregnant at the end but she could have worn it to the final fight or sometime during the the season. It's not just clothes, it's what they represent - like Superman's costume and Batman's it's a symbol of what and who they are.

Starlights costumes light and stars, hope and the future - I even liked her later redesign that was more suggestive but that costume only works if the person wearing it chose to wear it and is comfortable with it.

I would have loved to have maybe seen a combination of the two into a final masterpiece at the end. Because she's THE hero of America now that Homlander is dead, she was his biggest rival and now she's "technically" the most powerful Supe. I assume that's what the public thinks but we don't an answer to that.

It would be sad to me if she's ashamed of the outfit or thinks it's now beneath her or something because she is the person that created it and chose to wear it to begin with. Before all the assaults and trauma, that was hers and it'll always be hers. Her symbol her iconography.

It represented something to her and I really wanted her to remember herself and embrace that people's hero again, costume and all.

I assume since Varang burned down heir village for no reason they'll be moving in with the humans. I know she only burned two tents but still. And we already see them set up camp in the city, I just wonder how the humans feel about it - they were cheering them on so maybe they are mostly okay with it. Really wanna see how that works out for them in Avatar 4.

I don't believe this ability is completely accurate but if we think of Eywa as an advanced operating system with artificial intelligence we have to make the assumption it's able to predict possible outcomes based on data. The data and information being the memories of all the uncountable minds that make up what Eywa is, she's a hive mind in the literal sense. I think Eywa is the combination of every thing that has ever connected to the root network of Pandora. She's an amalgamation of countless souls beyond imagine. She's not a person, when I say terms like she and her I'm just choosing to personify her as a goddess because that's easier to say in a conversation and understand. And personally I consider her a real goddess, because what even a "real" goddess. Though I know and understand she's just an advanced alien mycelium hive mind made up of living/passed beings.

The core is a computer

But let's just think about her as a giant computer inside Pandora for this idea, like the core maybe. So she's super old and super advanced, she can store massive amounts of data in the form of memories and she can create simulated realities that living beings can travel in for a time. She's also capable of affecting the world by sending her Woodsprites out to influence it, we see every time a moment of crossroads comes in the series where two possible futures are suddenly possible a Woodsprite intervenes. In the first Avatar Neytiri is about to kill Jake and she would have done it too if a Woodsprite hadn't landed on her arrow head and stayed there. Something like that isn't common, it was significant enough for Neytiri to steady her hand. Now imagine if that didn't happen and she killed Jake, first she never would have experienced the love she has with Jake and the love of her children - she may have a new husband and children but that future still ends with them all dying when Hometree is taken down. And not just that but the humans would stay on Pandora and get stronger. Eywa has to know this somehow.
She has to know somehow that Neytiri killing Jake there would result in a possible future where the humans stay on Pandora, she did it on purpose - she made a conscious choice. That Woodsprite was sent there on a mission, it knew what it was supposed to do and where and when it needed to be. It was sent to prevent a possible future resulting in a human victory.

And then we have the next big choice Eywa makes in fire and ash to send a Woodsprite to live inside Spider. When you say it like it sounds weird but that's what it is. This obviously saves Spider and prevents a future where he's dead and the ash people kill the kids before Quaritch and Jake can get there. If Spider was dead there when the ash people arrived, I don't think they would have kept the kids alive for long or at least one of them would have died, probably Tuk. 😫I don't even wanna imagine that future my heart genuinely couldn't take it if Tuk dies I'll leave the theater, I'm completely serious.

Quaritch only cares about Spider

Quaritch wouldn't keep teaming up with Jake if Spider was dead, he's probably turn on him right there and take him back. So yeah terrible future that nobody wants. Spider being alive helped stall for time, Varang was interested in him enough not to kill him immediately like if he was a just another human in a mask. And Quaritch teaming up with Jake is completely dependent on Spider being alive, so I believe Eywa sent a Woodsprite to Kiri when Spider was dying and that Woodsprite told her of its mission and purpose through the Eywanet. It guided her, by Eywa's will. Into a better future, a future where the kids are alive, Jake is alive, and the humans are much weaker by the end of fire and ash. The final battle destroyed all their largest ships and sea vessels. Yeah they have sky ones but that's still a significant loss to the shareholders. It also weakens Bridgehead by making it more vulnerable to a sea side ambush, if Jakes army gets big enough they could swamp them. I think Eywa understands this and wants to keep Spider alive to guide the world towards a future where humanity and navi are both able to exist and be free in some way.

Eywa loves humanity

I think Eywa wants to save humanity and Earth and she starts with Spider. Like a test subject, but in a less clinical way. He's a 'chosen one' in all that entails. I don't exactly what that means but we know he's important to Eywa's plan, she/the hive mind accepts him at the end. He's now a part of her, maybe she wants to do that for all humans. Like in a scary pysic alien parasitic way. I mean if both species are happy and thriving its an endosight. Eywa seems to want the species that depend on her to thrive evidence being the moon of Pandora which is her other half of the endosight relationship. All the plants and animals. Eywa can also control the animals that have connected to her, we see her do this to all the Ikran and sea creatures in the first and third movie but those feats sea to require her to expend a lot of energy maybe cuz she doesn't do it often, it's usually during a pivotal moment where two possible futures exist and one results in her destruction - that's when she intervenes like a defense system. This makes sense to me, she would naturally want to keep herself alive and if humans destroy Pandora the thing she exist on she dies too like what happened to Earth.

She knows this through Jake's memories and Grace's, she's lived their lives if she wants - I don't doubt that she fully comprehends humanity and their threat to her. But she also doesn't wanna exterminate humanity or just let them die. Because that's not what Grace and Jake would want and they're a part of her now so their desires are hers and she loves humans as much as any human but she doesn't blind herself to our flaws because Grace and Jake definitely didn't and shouldn't. But humans are contradictions. And so is Eywa.

She can create these life like simulations of seemingly anything in her spirit world because it's all a pysic simulation. She can likely simulate how possible decisions and events could happen, so following that logic she should be able to create simulations of futures where she survive, humanity survives and the Navi survive and she sends her Woodsprites and occasionally summons her power to command the animals to aid. But honestly to me that maybe more a built in defense system since it only happens when humans try to attack a Spirit tree, that's like a hub of the hive mind so naturally it'd have defenses. But üin totality Eywa simulated futures to find one where everyone's happy and sends the animals and Woodsprites to gently or not so gently guide the world towards the future she wants.

I love this because it's both beautiful and creepy, that she's this omniscient omnipresent invisible living thing but can't be interacted with much from plants and animals. That's a good limitation for a god, she shouldn't be all power, she's a biological machine made up of memories. She's basically a god though, storing souls, controlling plants and animals changing biology on the cellular level. I'm sure we've only seen the surface of what she's capable of. And I'm excited to find out.

It initially gave me the ick for some reason, I actually cringed. It might just be a personal taste thing but the idea of hair moving on its own kinda grossed me out a little.

I obviously understand what's happening and how she's doing it. I know she's moving the nerves in the hair and it's not the actual hairs moving but it was just the visual that my brain wasn't accepting.

I still am kinda uncomfortable during that scene but when I use my logical mind I can get past it. It's weird like half my brain thinks it's badass and mystical and the other half wants to always skip the scene 😭😂😂

I honestly think it's just me maybe I have a weird hair sensory issue cuz I haven't seen anyone in the sub really have this opinion.

Love them all, wish we got to see Mo'at more.

I'm convinced now that the figure we see at the end of fire and ash is a reflection of Kiri. I think it's an simulated interpretation of an older version of her.

The figure is clearly Navi based on its eyes and nose shape, but it's nose is visibly more narrow and human. And she has eyebrows which full Navi don't have. That fits Kiri's description exactly, so the reason the face is turned away is so we don't recognize it immediately. If it was a face we wouldn't know it would be facing us, that just tracks storytelling wise.

I also don't think it's a coincidence that only Kiri's dots pulse with the tree, seems like the closer she got to the core the slower and more rhythmic the glowing became. It bacame more stable, i think this is meant to mirror a signal connection like the slower the flashing lights the stronger the connection. So when she has a seizure and her and the tree were flashing quickly and violently that means the connection was unstable, dangerous to both systems.

The last image says they think the face was Grace but now that we know Kiri is a clone of Grace's Avatar that would make sense she'd look like Grace when she gets older. Kiri's character model is based on 14 year old Sigourney Weaver. So that face could be based off of 20 year old Sigourney Weaver.

James loves Sigourney so him making her Eywa makes complete sense. He also made her blue Jesus.

I know as a community we've decided we hate how easily the Deep was able to kill Noir but I just can't get over it. I couldn't even watch the scene fully because it genuinely made me sad.

The Deep gets so much screen time every season and he basically does nothing with it, repeating the same arc over and over to ultimately just end up in the exact same place and mindset. I was hoping he'd die early in the season but of course he's the one to survive till the end.

This is just favoritism, his character does nothing for the plot. I think the creators just liked the actor. And this hurt the story because it's obvious they were keeping him alive on purpose.

At the end of the day I believe he should have died in the first episode and all his screen time should have been given to A-train. Or Noir. Or Marie. Or Ryan. You know characters people actually wanted to see more of.