r/HouseOfTheDragon

(It says "funpost: show," but you can go by the book ones, too.)

I mean, yes, Rhaenyra was very foolish and made a lot of mistakes, but that doesn't change the fact that her main problem was being a woman

There are literally comments that highlight exactly that:

- "It doesn't matter if she’s Jaehaerys reborn again; Rhaenyra is a woman."

- "The lords would burn the kingdom down before seeing a woman on the throne."

- "A woman cannot rule."

- "She is a woman."

- "Her intentions are good, but the kingdom needs a king."

I don't understand how people can deny that being a woman is a burden Rhaenyra carries throughout her story. Even Rhaenyra herself is misogynistic—even toward herself—yet for some reason, the audience simply ignores it.

I mean, it’s supposed to be a central theme of the series.

Shits expensive, with the amount he was playing with the realm won't go into debt for years if she sold it

People say it's wrong cuz Jon and Dany didn't rule over Westeros, Arya killed the NK...etc.

This is what Viserys said exactly:

"And just as Daenys foresaw the end of Valeyria, Aegon foresaw the end of the world of men. 'Tis to begin with a terrible winter, gusting out of the distant north. Aegon saw absolute darkness riding on those winds. And whatever dwells within will destroy the world of the living. When this great winter comes, Rhaeynera, all of Westeros must stand against it. And if the world of men is to survive, a Targaryen must be seated on the Iron Throne— a king, or queen, strong enough to unite the realm against the cold, and the dark."

So, Aegon saw what is coming. Nothing more. The rest is his conclusion, his believing. That a Targaryen must rule during the darkness.

But it came true in a kind of different way. Jon Snow is that Prince. No one else. No, not even Dany, it was Jon who convinced her also. Jon Snow was the only one who wanted to unite the living against them FROM THE START. This is all his motivation during the story. He is the son of ice and fire. And he was even a King, in the North.

"...a king, or queen, STRONG ENOUGH TO UNITE THE REALM against the cold, and the dark."

As the title asks, why wasnt Mushroom included in the tv series? Quite a lot of the history in the book is told to us by Mushroom the court jester. His recollections of events are used just as much as the masters.

He could have been a good character that went between the greens and the blacks. I feel like the missed a trick not including him.

One of the bloodiest battles in the area since Aegon's destruction of Harrenhal. More than two thirds of the men who rode south with Roddy the Ruin were either dead or wounded, and the Lannister forces were decimated in the thousands, and the death of Jason Lannister. It explains why both the Lannisters and the Winter Wolves are so depleted by the time we see them later in the season; most of the Wolves were effectively spent by their first appearance.

There has been no mention of Kermit or Benjicot. It would be crazy if the show leaves out "The Lads" entirely, considering they were the primary fighting force for the foot soldiers and served as the backbone of the war effort throughout the conflict. They are also some of the coolest characters of the whole damn war.

There's a whole subtle war going on between the Blackwoods and Brackens that the show hasn't even acknowledged outside of that one scene in season 2. The Dance was just another convenient excuse for these two houses to kill each other.

I know they had the entire emotionless assassin arc for Alicent in S3 (lol), but a flicker of emotion for a parent she spent much of her time in KL with would have been adequate.

This is a genuine question. It seems as if the show frames the war as the true Targaryens versus the half-breed culturally Hightower mutts and the Greens are nothing more than Hightower puppets.

This is strange. While in the books it is true the Hightowers are the Green’s principal supporters, they don’t dominate the faction. Aegon sacks Otto pretty early and Lord Ormund is a player but in the end isn’t that important (Daeron doesn’t seem to be his puppet and the Hightower host’s true threat materializes after Ormund dies and Ulf and Hugh turn cloak.). In fact, Corlys and the Velaryons are probably more dominant in the Black faction than the Hightowers in the Greens once the war starts.

There is also no indication the Green kids are any less Targaryen or act any less Targaryen then Rhaenyra or Daemon. The whole point of the conflict was that two branches of Targaryen killed off the dragons through their petty squabble. Plus, so what if the Greens followed the Seven, SO DID THE BLACKS (or at least they are supposed to)!!

The decision to frame the conflict in the show as the Valyrian Targaryens versus the Andal Greens was an interesting decision and I’m wondering why you guys think the show went that way.