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Round 1 Archer Gilgamesh vs Rider Noah

Round 2 Grand Archer Gilgamesh vs Grand Rider Noah

Standard rules

During the broadcast of one of the Gilgamesh vs matches schathach saw something interesting and that was of course harp and knowing Gilgamesh has something that can kill her and not being able to find we’re that spectator of death is she challenges Gilgamesh to a fight ohh he also called her and skadi old .

Round 1 Naked ( as in not holding back) archer Gilgamesh vs Lancer Schathach

Round 2 Ruler Gilgamesh vs Servant Skadi

Round 3 Alive Gilgamesh vs LB2 Skadi

Rules :

1. Both have tine as there master however neither tine is on the battlefield.

2. Neither have the advantage in fame .

3. There battle ground is Snow field and they start 25m apart .

They bragged so much that Ritsuka gave them a ultimatum one of them has to humble the other or chealdea couldn’t fit everyone considering there heads were getting so big .

Round 1 Archer Gilgamesh vs Lancer Romulas

Round 2 Grand archer Gilgamesh vs Grand lancer Qirinis

Rules :

1. No one has a master both have grails .

2. The battle field is Snow field they both start 25m apart .

3. They are both fully serious.

4. Neither has a fame boost .

One day it happens lancer cu can’t take Gilgamesh’s provocations any more , caster Cu can’t take caster Gil being a literal fraud of a mage ( yes he knows no magecraft at all ) ,Prototype cu can’t stand how much of a pretty boy punk proto Gil is and Setanta and child Gil want to play.

Round 1 Kid Gil vs Setanta

Round 2 Caster Gilgamesh ( no mulamu dingir ) vs Caster Cu ( no Odin so he gets gea bolg )

Round 3 Caster Gilgamesh vs Caster cu ( with Odin help )

Round 4 Naked Gilgamesh ( as in not holding back ) vs Lancer Cu

Round 5 Prototype Gilgamesh vs Prototype Cu

Round 6 Naked Gilgamesh vs Cu alter

Round 7 Naked Gilgamesh vs berserker Cu

Round 8 MMC Gilgamesh ( with hakuno ) vs Cu Alter ( no master )

Rules :

1. Tine is both sides master neither is on the field .

2. The Battle field is Snow Field starting 25m apart , except for round 8 .

3. Equal fame for all sides .

So apparently Altera thinks Gilgamesh is bad civilisation because he and Ozy were planning on setting up a formal currency in chealdea that isn’t dependent on saint quartz and attacks the two Gilgamesh ray shifts them and decides to teach Altera the virtues of being the law .

1 Round Archer Gilgamesh going full power against Saber Altera doing the same .

Rules :

1. Both have tine as there masters with neither Tine being on the battlefield .

2. They start 25 m apart in Sbowfield .

It’s time to cover the best knight of the round the knight of the sun Gawain and best dogoo Barghast .

Round 1 Archer Gilgamesh vs Saber Gawain

Round 2 Archer Gilgamesh vs Saber Gawain ( with numeral of saint always active)

Round 3 Archer Gilgamesh vs Servant Barghast

Round 4 Alive Gilgamesh vs LB6 Barghast

Round 5 MMC Gilgamesh vs 3rd accession Barghast

Rules :

1 . Both servants have Tine as there master and she isn’t on the Battlefield

2. The battle takes Place in Snowfield with both sides starting 25m apart .

3. Gilgamesh is going as serious as he was against enkidu
   For round 2-5 .

That honestly cracks me up is teddy buwu gone snap I mean he was about to physically assault Agi just because he talked back to Fox also really I like Agi they had to sub him out now .

Behold two people who can never show off there strength because they are two strong and as such would make the story boring if they went all out from the beginning needless to say Gilgamesh and Lancelot would not fare well in Kengan .

Round 1 Archer Gilgamesh vs Saber Lancelot

Round 2 Going all out archer Gilgamesh vs Saber Lancelot

Round 3 Archer Gilgamesh vs Berserker Lancelot

Rules :

1. Both masters are Tine neither tine is on the battlefield.

2. Both have little to no fame.

3. The battlefield is Snow field and both start off 25m apart.

4. Gilgamesh is as serious as he was in his second battle with Alcides .

Im finally done with the archer class so it’s time to move on two the saber class and I might as well start off with a nice middle of the road servant who we can all agree is rather strong germanys strongest heroic spirit Siegfried and per how I structure these posts Siegfried and Sieg are pulled in two .

Round 1 archer Gilgamesh vs Saber Siegfried ( he has his dragon reactor core and mana burst on ) .

Round 2 archer Gilgamesh vs Saber Sigurd ( he has his mana reactor core on and his mana burst ) .

Round 3 archer Gilgamesh vs Caster Sieg

Rules :

1. Both there masters are tine and they are not on the battlefield.

2. They have little to no fame .

3. The battle field is Snow field they start 25 m apart.

4. Gilgamesh is going as serious as he was against Alcides in there second fight .

5. Even if they are not relevant bring up as many rune uses as you know this is for informative reasons these posts are for fun after all .

6. Have fun .

Round 1 redo Gilgamesh vs Heracles

I have made a post giving my opinion on Gilgamesh vs Alcides and Heracles but what are yours ( side note my first post was massive like blotted I realised that these verses posts get the job done far quicker and in a more fun way ) .

Round 1 Ruler Gilgamesh vs Regular berserker Heracles ( no axe sword , valour is on and he can use nine lives bare handed) .

Round 2 Ruler Gilgamesh vs Berserker Heracles with some buffs ( hippolitas axe , nine lives, valour , madness enhancement working with the rest of his kit )

Round 3 Ruler Gilgamesh vs Megalos

Round 4 Naked Gilgamesh vs Heracles ichor ( I was very disappointed when i realised ichor np is just the bare handed version of nine lives )

Round 5 Archer Gilgamesh vs Alcides

Round 6 alter ego Gilgamesh vs Alcides from hell

Round 7 Archer Gilgamesh vs Alcides with gugalana

Round 8 Archer Gilgamesh vs Archer Heracles ( let’s say he has hydra venom , hippolitas belt and the pelt )

Rules :

1. Neither have a significant fame boost.

2. Gilgamesh’s master is tine while Heracles is Illya neither is on the battlefield.

3. The battle takes place in Snow field rounds 1-4 start with both 25m apart rounds 5-8 start 20km away.

4. Gilgamesh is as serious as he has in his second battle with Alcides except for round 4 and 8 there he is going all out .

It’s time to let the hounds out on one of the most controversial match ups in fate if not the most controversial match up in fate the hero king humanity’s first hero Gilgamesh vs the hero for justice possibly humanity’s last hero Shirou Emiya

Round 1 Alter ego Gilgamesh vs Archer Emiya .

Round 2 Alter ego Gilgamesh vs Emiya alter .

Round 3 Not holding back Gilgamesh ( no EA ) vs Emiya archer .

Round 4 Not holding back Gilgamesh vs Archer Emiya .

Round 5 Not holding back Gilgamesh vs Archer Emiya but they start in ubw .

Round 6 MMC Gilgamesh vs MMC Nameless

Rules :

1. Neither get a substantial fame boost .

2. Both masters are Tine neither are on the Battlefield.

3. They start 25m meters apart in Snow field.

4. Gilgamesh is going as serious as he was against enkidu and us in the grand battle.

5. Besides round 5 they don’t start in ubw .

6. Have fun and site sources.

It’s time to let the hounds out on one of the most controversial match ups in fate if not the most controversial match up in fate the hero king humanity’s first hero Gilgamesh vs the hero for justice possibly humanity’s last hero Shirou Emiya

Round 1 Alter ego Gilgamesh vs Archer Emiya .

Round 2 Alter ego Gilgamesh vs Emiya alter .

Round 3 Not holding back Gilgamesh ( no EA ) vs Emiya archer .

Round 4 Not holding back Gilgamesh vs Archer Emiya .

Round 5 Not holding back Gilgamesh vs Archer Emiya but they start in ubw .

Round 6 MMC Gilgamesh vs MMC Nameless

Rules :

1. Neither get a substantial fame boost .

2. Both masters are Tine neither are on the Battlefield.

3. They start 25m meters apart in Snow field.

4. Gilgamesh is going as serious as he was against enkidu and us in the grand battle.

5. Besides round 5 they don’t start in ubw .

6. Have fun and site sources.

I’ve run out of none divine spirit archers well there is one left but ahhh anyway today is Gilgamesh vs Tristan .

Round 1 Caster Gilgamesh vs Tristan

Round 2 Caster Gilgamesh vs Boabon

Round 3 Archer Gilgamesh vs both

Rules :

1.Same masters Tine practically no fame and the masters are not on the battlefield.

2. Battle area Snow field , they start 25m apart .

3. Gilgamesh is as serious as he was against Alcides in there second fight.

Should I do Gilgamesh vs emiya tomorrow or move on to the saber class and do emiya at the end of the regular classes?

Ohhh boy it’s time for a spite match folks .

Round 1 Archer Gilgamesh vs Archer super Orion ( because we technically know what regular Orion looks like but not his abilities) .

Round 2 Going all out archer Gil vs Grand archer Orion ( without his buffs )

Round 3 Naked Grand archer Gil vs Buffed grand archer Orion .

Rules :

1. Gilgamesh is as serious as he was against Alcides in there second fight.

2. Both have little to no fame the same master with infinite mana there masters aren’t on the battlefield .

3. The location is Snow field they start 25m away from one another.

Continuing on to yet another heavy weight from seemingly the strongest mythology as far as heroes we have someone who is considered an equal to karna and Arjuna it’s time for someone who’s kit makes no sense to people like me who didn’t know much about Indian mythology a certified bro Ashthavatama.

Round 1 Archer Gil vs Archer Ash

Round 2 Naked ( as in not holding back ) archer Gil vs Ash who is willing to use that one bow.

Round 3 Naked archer Gil vs Lb Ash

Round 4 MMC Gil vs LB Ash

Rules are the same as the last match ups basically infinite mana and game with both servants having equivalent masters that aren’t on the battlefield and Gilgamesh is at least going as serious as he was in his second fight with Alcides.

We are back to the 25m starting range .

Unlike the last two vs posts I did I don’t have nearly as much to talk about my battle analysis seem to drag way to long so I will post my own thoughts Tomorrow with that aside.

Round 1 Archer Gilgamesh vs Archer Arjuna .

Round 2 naked Archer Gilgamesh vs Godjuna berserker .

Round 3 Alive Gilgamesh vs Alive Arjuna .

Round 4 Grand archer Gilgamesh vs Godjuna proper

Rules

1. Both servants have there fame evened out there masters are both Tine and the Tines are not on the battlefield.
2. The battle takes place in Snow field the distance between both fighters is is 25m .
3. Gilgamesh is going as serious as he was against Alcides in there second fight at least initially.

On my last post i covered Alcides and his versions plus archer Heracles this time I will be covering berserker and his forms I will attempt to refine my format for this post because my Alcides vs Gilgamesh post was a wall of text that would qualify me as a shielder so this time I will use my unlimited yap works less and condense my arguments it also helps there is less to cover here than there was with Alcides and his 14 nps .
I will also give a quick recap of the rules :

1. Only servants that can put up a fight will be covered ( except the odd spite match ) .
2. I’ll be moving through class by class with the exception of Artoria and the divine spirits who will be covered last .

3.As I cover a servant I will cover all versions of them .

4.Grands will have there normal forms against archer Gilgamesh and there grand forms against naked grand Gilgamesh.

5.i will be evening things out so no big fame differences, Tine as a master to provide lots of mana and normal stats and the masters won’t be on the battlefield to make sure everyone can go all out .

6. The battle is in Snow Field and both fighters are aware of each other they also are aware of each other .

7. Gilgamesh will be relatively serious at least as serious as he was in strange fake against Alcides the first time .

8. I can make mistakes they are not intentional however i don’t know everything and can forget information so please be so kind as to correct me and if you disagree with my arguments feel free to give your own .

Without further ado Heracles vs Gilgamesh.

Round 1.6 Gilgamesh vs berserker Heracles.
Something i don’t see a lot of people mentioning is that berserker Heracles as we see him in stay night is not how he normally is in fact I’m pretty sure the writers have forgotten as well because when he is normally summoned he is bare handed and has his valour skill wich provides a close combat buff his madness is also a bit lighter than it was in stay night so in extreme situations it’s possible he may use nine lives , now I hear you asking are those things enough to beat Gilgamesh he himself did say Heracles might have some chances if he abandoned illya well context is relevant here notably by that point

1. Gilgamesh might not have been trying to actually kill illya all that hard this is because he needed her

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1. so he probably wouldn’t throw any nps with wide area of effects or activate them this is a weak yet notable argument.
2. He does not fight all that seriously he is in a inclosed space not waring his armour or flying away so Heracles can get closer yet when he anticipates a challenge in artorias route and fsf he puts on his armour and stays significantly more mobile.
3. He says he may stand a chance wich some people for whatever reason take as meaning Gilgamesh would absolutely lose.
4. If the battle ever got dice he could just pull out Merodach and wipe out more than half of Heracles lives in an instant.
5. He had yet to use enkidu by that point .
6. He could just have pulled out EA and wiped out most if not all of his lives .

The end result is Gilgamesh defeats even a less gimped Heracles all the same.

Round 1.7 Gilgamesh vs Buffed berserker Heracles
For this iteration we will be giving the og Herc as much of a chance as Possible his madness enhancement will stake with valour and his skill will be retained finally we will be giving him hippolitas axe and full access to nine lives with all these buffs this should be a much more interesting match so let’s go .
Firstly Heracles biggest problem of being a weapon sponge hill be significantly reduced his motor function has been restored his ability to deflect weapons has been increased and for his ultimate defence nine lives has been restored with this he will be able to wage through nps at a significantly greater rate his weapon can also be used to its full potential as per the description of nine lives he already hits as hard as calidbolg two maybe less if you believe him deflecting it was more skill than strength however now his nine lives is equipped with a np that is not full comparable to Excalibur now that might not sound very impressive but if it is only half of Excaliburs power it is 3.5 to 5.5 of his lives rounding that up we get 4-7 of his own lives worth a truly devastating amount of power .

All these buffs may seem like enough to give Gilgamesh a even match and to an extent they will push Gilgamesh maybe be pushed to a level of seriousness equal to when he fought Alcides the second time however he still has a few trump cards up his sleeve even without EA and SNI namely :
1.Enkidu .
2. Merodach is stronger than his axe or at least that’s my opinion.
3. The various defensive nps he possesses and flying ones to extend the battle.

In conclusion this version of berserker Heracles is extremely powerful and would definitely have floored Gilgamesh as he was against Heracles in ubw but against a more serious version it falls short still think he beats a lot of servants he normally has difficulty with and karna or Siegfried took a full nine lives barrage with ace they would be dead .

Round 1.8 Gilgamesh vs Heracles megalos
Megalos is stronger he is faster he is more divine and a bigger target and as such is way more sustainable to enkidu thanks for showing up megalos better luck next time mate .

Round 1.9 Gilgamesh vs Heracles Ichor
This one is the one I was waiting for now Heracles poses nine lives he poses increased divinity he poses a bow a np axe and marayadose a MMC that is said to be stronger than Excalibur
( I will assume it is stronger than the Excalibur that Artoria uses if you want to argue it’s stronger than unsealed Excalibur well EA has a statement of being the strongest weapon humanity lead its hands on so it doesn’t make that much of a difference) .
This Heracles is genuinely terrifying and if you’re wondering what is his grand np well it’s actually the most boring thing they could have went with it’s him using nine lives bare handed those the c rank but that’s asides the point he is a beast of a grand .
Gilgamesh on the other hand stops playing around restoring his divinity in the process this probably doesn’t actually do anything that relevant but it’s cool to see .

So what is the final verdict well it’s pretty simple Gilgamesh wins not only should be match marayadose with EA he should be able to one shot Heracles with his presumably grand specific np what is that no you ask well only the strongest god slaying weapon against someone who is maxed out on there divinity ya unta duranki clinches this hard . Also while Heracles is unlikely to get caught by them the chains of heaven are as much of a problem as ever he might be able to break out of them but it’s something that would bay needed time to fire off something like Enuma elish .

Final verdict Gilgamesh when more serious defeats all versions of berserker Heracles However he is pushed to extreme difficulty by ichor and can not play around to insure these wins put respect on the name of the og Heracles the Hero .

Bonus Round 1.10 Alive Gilgamesh vs Alive Heracles
No idea alive Gilgamesh is called the strongest hero so probably him alive herc was called equal to either Apollo or Helios I’m more inclined to say Helios and he was titan who were on average stronger than the Olympians however we have not seen the capabilities of either Apollo or Helios in any form Gilgamesh also does not have the chains when he was alive now normally he traveled with enkidu but we aren’t considering enkidu standard equipment if only so Gilgamesh does not murder me so this match can go either way I’m leaning more towards Gilgamesh do to the versatility of the gate .

I hope I did these two justice since they are my favourite characters in the Nasu verse thanks for reading.

Gilgamesh vs Round 1 Heracles

Hello people burning in the 36 degrees Celsius weather how are ? have you ever wondered how does Gilgamesh do against x servant well I have and in a lot of detail combined with the abundance of free time on my hands I thought why not make a huge series of posts going over how these different match ups go and who better to start such a series off with than tge king of heroes the strongest heroic spirit vs the hero he who needs no introduction whatsoever the man for whom nothing is impossible Heracles.

Since this will be my introductory post I will be establishing the rules of the match ups here and there are a few notably 7 they are :

1. I will only be covering servants that can actually put up a fight against the Gilgamesh I will be using I do not intend to spend hours finding servants that are mentioned and appear once to blute the series and Gilgamesh’s win tally.
2. I will be covering servants as they appear starting with archer moving to saber , lancer than assassin, berserker, caster , rider plus the extra classes . The exceptions because there must always be exceptions in this verse artoria will be left for last and divine spirits will be covered in there own video except again for some of them.

3.As I cover a servant I will cover all the versions of that servant as in the servant who I am first covering Alcides opens up the opportunity to cover all versions of Heracles including ( berserker , archer , megalos , ichor and others ) .

4.Grand servants will be reduced to there normal servant version since Gilgamesh vs the grands is another topic altogether. Although I will do a grand naked Gilgamesh vs each of the grands .

5.Servants will have there circumstances evened out as in there masters shall all be Tine for an infinite reserve of mana and normalised stats there fame shall be evened out in most cases but I will not be taking into account every servants level of fame in every feat they preform for my sanity the masters will also be taken to another world let’s say the reverse side of the world I did this because 1. So the servants won’t have to hold back and 2. So Gilgamesh does not cheese a lot of wins .

6.The battle is a head to head fight with both fighters well aware of each other sorry assassins, the battle will take place in a City Similar to snowfield they start 25m away from each other.

7. The version of Gilgamesh I will be using is archer with Tiné as a master in strange fake since his stats are normal and he is more serious I will be covering 3 levels of effort on his part 1. As series as he was against Alcides in there first battle 2. As series as he was against Alcides in there second battle and 3. Basically naked Gilgamesh he discards all arrogance and fights using sni ( sha naqpa imeru ) for this version I will say the servants he is facing will also get to be out of character and fight optimally.

8. Not a rule but a suggestion I do not know every bit on type moon lore and even the stuff I do know i may have forgotten the specifics or may have forgotten it altogether so if you see a mistake please correct me in the comments for any counter argument please be civil and site your source thank you i genuinely enjoy discussing with you all . Without further ado Gilgamesh vs Alcides.

Round 1.1 Gilgamesh vs Alcides with bazdallots mana supply and grail mud ( bazdallots mana supply is particularly potent we he will get his mana crystals as a Bonus ) : the first thing I will do is cover the servants in question’s stats and parameters

Alcides has A rank strength the main demonstration of this is him drawing back his bow and swatting away nps from the gate of Babylon it’s so impossible in fact i believe even Alcides demonstrates feats of strength greater than A rank but that’s beside the topic,

He has A rank agility wich is well demonstrated in him avoiding attacks from hippolyta and Gilgamesh.

He has B rank endurance as his durability is only tested against Jack from hell and he seems to be holding in pretty well I’m almost inclined to believe this stat is to low as well but one high rank np from Gilgamesh is enough to finish him off even after his buff so maybe I am wrong.

His luck is B rank this statistic is basically irrelevant I will not be accounting for a miracle here and even if I was Gilgamesh’s luck is better .

His mana is A rank again not relevant here as the match up does not care for his normal reserves .

And his np rank the one that matters the least is A++ .

All around his stats are ridiculous not only the perimeters but also his actual feats with them his skills are also top of the line although his mentality does slightly hold him back no were near as much as Gilgamesh’s but he could be oh so slightly stronger but I will get into that later .

There initial encounter can be summoned up as Alcides attacks Gilgamesh and tine and the auto defender defends tine but the second attack from Alcides manages to get through auto defender even if it was still hit by the lightning and Gilgamesh has to block it by putting on his armour and batting it away this is a very impressive feat for Alcides arrows .

The encounter continues now after hoping on vimana Gilgamesh and tine go to the canyon were Alcides is Gilgamesh launches a barrage of nps there rank is mid high rank at best Alcides swats them away easily very impressive again then he beckons Gilgamesh to attack again this time Gilgamesh launches thousands of weapons again not doing any damage Alcides says that one line all his glazers cling to “how weak “ and hippolyta intervenes as it is not her post yet and won’t be for a while for the purpose of this discussion she simply preforms far worse than the other two However more relevant to this discussion we see Gilgamesh is able to fully counter Alcides arrows with weapons from the gate of Babylon and vimanas auto defenders can effectively stop his arrows.
It is now time to go over Alcides 3 but more like 14 nps and how would they have effected the battle had he used them :

1.He had the pelt on all battle it is highly relevant to how he was able to last so long in both there fights .

2.He uses the bow but not the venom its relevance is smaller than you would think since Gilgamesh shoots down his arrows and has the anti venom .

3.It is a divine beast far faster than Heracles however there is a problem this beast belonged to Artimas and the Same way Cerberus lost a vast majority of its power because of the loss of hades divinity it is most likely the same happened to the hind so it wouldn’t have been very useful here .

4.Extra life considering it does not do much after he is revived if an opponent sustained no damage killing him the first time they won’t sustain damage doing it again.

5.Buffs his nine lives .

6.Tge birds really are not that strong they most likely would just die to np spam .

7.Same as the hide and Cerberus a divine beast that would lose much of its power.

8.These are the horses he uses to escape the shadow they are faster than he normally is but hippolyta a more skilled rider on a better horse was being pressured by Gilgamesh so again I feel there use would be minimal.

9.He uses it throughout most of the rhapsody of Demi gods 1 and his arrows are still being shot down by Gilgamesh’s gate assuming he can use its full power on his body than I’m willing to say it would be helpful throughout the battle but not game changing.

10.I guess he gets some sheep and cows i genuinely don’t know there has to be more to it .

11.He gets golden stamina replenishing apples although he is already hooked up to an infinite mana source.

12.Cerberus gets mauled by np spam if it was at full power we would have something there but it isn’t.

13. Nine lives he is probably using not true name release through the entire second encounter and judging by how the anime portrayed it he was in the first one two Gilgamesh can counter it with weapons from the gate or hell his own nine lives and hydra venom and judging by how he says it he can even open the gates and swallow nine lives into the gate so even if he does spam it if he wasn’t before the result will be similar.

14. Reincarnation Pandora is the hold reason this is a debate in the first place and are lack of a proper explanation of how it works is annoying but from what we have seen it has 2-4 conditions the more concrete ones are
    1.The np that Alcides wishes to steal must be active
    2.He must be touching it like he was with Jack from hell and gugalana .

15. He can only steal one np at a time and
    4.He can only steal trump cards this one is a possibility.
    The main argument to how be beats Gilgamesh is him stealing the gate but even when pushed to his limits in the second fight and telling his master he will have to go all out or he may die he still does not steal it there are 2 main arguments I see for why he didn’t steal it 1. He could only steal each treasure individually and as such stealing them and getting hit in the process would have been pointless the supporting evidence for this is each and every np in the gate counts as its own np with its own ability’s and argument two 2. He needs to touch the key babilu in order to steal the gate .

Final verdict: If Alcides used everything in his disposal in snow field he would lose to a relatively serious Gilgamesh maybe forcing him to use some divine weapons like harp , vijar, hippolytas axe , or even imbue his weapons with divinity with his own goddess of war .

Part 1.2 Gilgamesh vs Alcides from hell
He was packing him up without using any divine weapons or constructs without using his clairvoyance and Alcides was forced to use his martial arts plus pelt while buffed with from hell just to survive also it is revealed that in there first battle Gilgamesh was not using any really high rank nps and now he is using ones that can one shot Alcides the verdict is clear Gilgamesh was even prepared to counter his almost full power nine lives only missing the stables buff .

Part 1.3 Gilgamesh vs full bazdallot mana Alcides
In the gugalana fight Alcides demonstrates some frankly insane mana output making me wonder if alive Heracles had the highest mana output ever the insane feat in question is doing massive damage to and destroying gugalanas left leg with a long wind up nine lives this had literally everything he could put into it all of bazdallots remaining mana the goddess or war the hydra venom and unfortunately i believe Gilgamesh can still counter it but this time he will need ea and enuma elish this opens up the possibility of Alcides stealing EA however in order to do so he has to be touching it being generous and saying he only needs to touch the beam he will most likely lose 30 percent of his spirit origin like he did against gugalana and that will leave him vulnerable to be finished off by a extremely pissed of Gilgamesh.

Part 1.4 Gilgamesh vs Alcides with gugalana exoskeleton
Alcides wins ya no if it takes Gilgamesh and enkidu to beat the bull than a Alcides who actually has skill and is a far smaller target will be far more difficult for Gilgamesh to deal with than the bull or is gugalana an ox i think i once saw it called an ox . If you are looking for a Gilgamesh who can get the job done though i would say alive Gilgamesh or extra ccc as MMC Gilgamesh is needed .

So in total Gilgamesh gets 3 wins from different versions of Alcides i believe Alcides was designed as a rival to Gilgamesh however this does not reflect Gilgamesh’s dominance over him in there second battle and his ability to seemingly toy with Alcides while in the drivers seat .

P.S I hade the full post done but i forgot to save it so to avoid doing that again i will just post Alcides vs Gilgamesh while I get the rest of it do again. A majority of the information i used here is from fate strange fake mostly the novels , Gilgamesh having those divine weapons comes from the origin visual novel and other sources, Gilgamesh having nine lives comes from prisma illya , Gilgamesh having Heracles ace and the goddess of war is speculation derived from him having harp .

Between the 2 different designs for archer Heracles the 3 different designs for Alcides and two different designs for hippolyta I was left confused as to wether archer Heracles is ment to have the war gods military belt , the evidence I see is against him having it as it is probably among the nps belonging to his assassin self and the cloth wrapped around his arm is not the goddess of war Alcides materialises it rather than unfolding it it’s unlikely to be the belt around his waist either since Alcides poses a similar one not to say archer Heracles does not have it definitively or could not materialise it like Alcides does but the designs do not support him having it in my opinion , but what do you guys think.