u/Dr_Meme_Man

Let’s face it. We can come up with whatever theory on why the trinity cores are the way they are. Human cells, Donors, or even Nephilim influencing Pnuema, one thing we know for sure is that they were not meant to be physical beings that directly impact the world. They were only supposed to manage the Zohar/Conduit alongside each other. You take that away from them, that’s bound to cause a problem that can barely be fixed.

Mythra, when exposed to the traumatic stimuli from Torna’s destruction, defaulted back to “Pneuma” to better process and handle the situation; causing even more destruction. When Milton died, that sealed the deal and brought Pyra to the front; officially splitting the Pneuma code in two.

Ontos had it even worse! He had already shifted back into the default personality of “Ontos” once Origin was created; creating Z from the collective will of those who wanted to be preserved. Unfortunately, years of Aionios’ suffering and trauma flowed back into him directly; no management from his siblings since they weren’t with him. They were brought to the conclusion that only City life was worth managing and sought to destroy Aionios.

Finally, there’s Malos. Honestly…he’s the most “put together” when in the default “Logos” personality. Willingly helped assist Pneuma with preventing the collapse of the orbital ring and asked an innocent question to her about how life was on Earth for her. Even as Malos, despite all the malice and emotions leaked into him by Amalthus, he was the one who willingly worked with Jin and the rest of “Torna”; even reaching out to him despite their past conflict.

The next time we see the trinity, I wouldn’t know what role they’d play in the story. I have a gut feeling that they’d be living together as a family underneath the same roof; always talking with each other and being together. At the very least, they'll have an extremely close relationship with each other to support one another. All of the above will never happen again, because now they have each other.

This was insanely difficult to figure out. Logos and Ontos were easy to pinpoint their potential donors for human cells, but Pneuma? I had to actually think about it for a couple days. It’s only because of you guys that I finally found a solid answer.

After days of digging, I’ve finally found something in the Alrest Records. Among all of the beta designs for Pyra, only one caught my eye: a blue girl. It’s nothing spectacular, it’s actually a very standard design…too standard. It’s like…a physically hologram of what was once a normal girl being manifested from the Pneuma core. Like she became Pneuma.

It’s easy to say that Pneuma has the human cells from the Xenoblade equivalent of nephilim, but we can do much better than that. Let me attempt to paint a simple picture:

Development team for Pneuma is making impressive headway, they just need a donor from an Anima equivalent. Hard to do, given that the donors for Ontos and Logos were easier to pick out and identify.

A young daughter of a scientist, age 12-14, either tragically passes away or is taken in for experimentation. Whatever the reason, they’ve found that she has affinity with the Conduit. A perfect Anima. They take her cells and implant them into the bio-computer elements of Pneuma, thus completing construction of the core.

This would be the official story of how Pneuma came to be finished. Although it doesn’t explain how the “Pyra” personality would even be in there. Fortunately, I’m not a quitter and, again, you guys made me think on this more. There are two possibilities:

1. Organic brain cells of “Nephilim”, rather than just regular human cells, are taken from her and implanted into the Pneuma core; thereby influencing the encoded personality of Pneuma as she’s now apart of the A.I., albeit harder to parse out up until Mythra's breakdown and awakening of Pyra.
2. During the experiment, the trinity processor synch rate was at 97%. After the experiment commenced, while some things dissappeared into distant dimensions, others were bolstered by the action (ex. Klaus). This allowed the Trinity Processor to be synched up to the Conduit and gain extra power. However, Pneuma specifically received the soul of "Nephilim"; implanting it deep into the core crystal. Then, after the events of Torna, Nephilim was "reborn" as Pyra when Mythra retreated into the core from the trauma.

I’m leaning more towards possibility 2. It would be a nice acknowledgement and continuity towards XCX while giving credit to this series’ past entire. Plus, it just makes sense. If Nephilim was gonna inhabit a “body”, it might as well be the A.I. trinity core components that your human cells are apart of. A better anchor for Nephilim to better "exist".

The best part is that, if the theory is accurate, we’ll have closure to the blade on the core crystal illustration in the XC2 menu. The illustration in game, the last remnant of all the scrapped pyra concept art in the artbook, would be “Nephilim”. Her soul is hidden deep and sleeping within the personality of Pneuma; silently managing the blade system alongside her and within other blades all this time. I think it’d be poetic, at least, that us players are the only ones even slightly aware of “Nephilim’s” influence in the story.

“Think about it. Why is it that the moon shines? Even if humans were gone, it would shine on, illuminating the land beneath. And yet…we’re the ones that give meaning to it.”-Noah, Xenoblade Chronicles 3

Pneuma is a weird Trinity Core compared to her "siblings".

Right off the bat, one difference is that she never calls herself, abilities or sword a "Monado". Logos does it just fine with his sword arts and kanji symbols, while Ontos proclaims himself as Monado. Both of them at least have the kanji's on their swords, but not Pneuma in any form. For whatever reason, her programming lacks the name "Monado" despite being one.

Another instance is that Mythra created another personality after Torna named "Pyra". This...should be impossible. The trinity cores, along with blades, only had one, singular personality when constructed. Even Alpha was noted to be just a machine with no personality, conscience and memories; it all went to A. Plus, the only reason A looks like a woman is because Ontos is supposed to be "somewher inbetween". It’s ingrained in their coding and human cells to be that way (remeber this for later). Alpha is incapable of creating a new personality, nor were the rest of the trinity cores meant to around Klaus' era, yet Mythra can despite having a set personality already coded into her core.

Another anomaly is the ending. Pyra and Mythra became two separate entities spawned from the same core with different bodies. When we discussed how the trinity cores have human cells, the topic of them possessing nanomachines came up. A nanomachine, in the xeno-series, has the capacity to dissassemble and reassemble matter based on DNA. In this case, the nano-machines would use the human cells that're in the trinity cores' Bio-computer elements and make a physical form. Although, when you look at them switching spots, the bodies become different. Pyra dematerializes, retreats back into the core, the core processes the code, and transforms into Mythra. If it were simply a switch in personality, the body itself would stay the same.

All of this, added with the ending, makes me think that there were two donors or entities that the Pneuma core possesses. One being the Anima of Klaus' era, and another girl who isn't supposed to be there at all. The core having two personalities set into the coding of Pneuma allowed mythra to conjure up "Pyra". The Klaus era Anima who can possess a "monado" had her programming slighlty changed when the other girl was added. The ending where Pyra and Mythra have separate bodies is the pneuma core expelling the genetic data of both Pyra and Mythra; giving them distinct, physical forms with the same core crystal as each of their human cells are now independent from each other. Even Takahashi in Aionios Moments, when discussing Matthew's gauntlet, explains that Pyra and Mythra are two distinct wills that make up Pneuma. Takahashi makes a point to separate the two physically, mentally, and spiritually both in their existence and their weapons.

Also...look, I'm not tech savvy, but I know how computers work. You have to input the codes, data and information to do the work. A computer or AI, no matter its capabilities, can’t create something out of nothing. Mythra wouldn't have been able to create Pyra, a new body and personality without the cells and coding within Pneuma's components already containing such ingrained info. Whatever the case, an additional someone/something was added to the core when Pneuma was created.

All that said, I can't pinpoint both women that would be in the cores, I don't have enough sources to make that conclusion. I can only pinpoint one of them...

Since the trinity cores have human cells in them. and their biological components, nano-machines or otherwise, allows them to come forth in physical form like other core crystals, it can’t just be regular humans.

Those with an affinity to the Zohar/Conduit have been shown to produce even better results in all games for the Xeno-series; with xenoblade being no different with this rule. Although, such an instance would’ve been rare around Klaus’ era, so the “donor pool” would be limited.

Luckily, it is not impossible to draw conclusions based on established info. Every universe in the Xeno-series franchise, Conduit or not, have tentpoles involved that props up the world; those being Anima, Animus and Persona. We just need to find the human equivalents for the trinity processor’s construction. Not easy, but not too difficult.

Let’s start with Logos, who would be “animus”. Dimitri Yuriev is the safe option; the first named character from Xenosaga to be carried into Xenoblade. In that game, he’s the only survivor in an U.M.N. experiment and made contact with U-DO; gaining the ability to swap his consciousness with different bodies. Not only that, but his moniker as a “designer child” and head of the saviorite group in xenosaga is also note worthy.

Although the Saviorite gorup in Xenoblade is surely of a different origin from Xenosaga, Dimitri is issues statements regarding the Saviorite human right bill on the radio; as if he has some connection to them and/or their talks. All in all, A perfect donor candidate with Dimitri's original human body, if his ability and affiliation is still canon, will more than suffice for Logos.

Next is Ontos, who is “persona”. The trilogies’ worlds have an “Avatar” in each one; Alvis in XC1, Klaus in XC2, and Ontos in XC3 (with Z filling that position externally later on). In Xenosaga, exactly one man fits the bill: Wilhelm. He’s an ageless entity enlisted as a “Guardian” of the universe throughout its every incarnation; a direct servant of that worlds’ collective consciousness. Sure, they use male pronouns for him, but it’s not too far off to label Wilhelm as “somewhere in-between” given his role. Now, I’m not sure if MonolithSoft will go the extra mile to make him canon, but a Xenoblade equivalent of Wilhelm whose intersex could provide their own cells to the Ontos core.

TLDR: Biocomputers have to get their “biology” from somewhere. Even the real life ones have to contain real proteins and DNA from biological molecules to function. If you’re gonna manage the Conduit/Zohar of all things, you need the cream of the crop of human DNA, not just standard animals and people. Ontos and Logos need DNA and cells from human equivalents of animus and persona, those with affinity to the divine, to independently manage the Conduit.

Now, we have to tackle Pneuma…

I'm going to have to explain why the trinity cores having human cells is significant. We'll go over this one by one: Mecahnical and Biological.

Mechanical: The best computers to ever exists. This is where it all happens. The processing unit that gives each core the ability to process manage quatities of data. Without this, say goodbye to any feedback in the Blade system, the evolution process, and the blueprint of life. The best computers to ever exists.

This is how Rex and Pyra/Mythra consistently keep the same battle wounds. data beteewn the two always shared and replicated between them. Keeps them updated in their status. "The Monado grows with you*"*.

Biological: This makes managing the conduit easier, as that was the original purpose. They need a "warm body to run", but we'll get back to that later. The trinity cores do not have nanomachines, nor were they added to their construction. Their cores contain bio-computer elements to make it easier to sustain the Conduit, and nano-machines were constructed for the world after its destruction.

The bio-computer elements in the core crystal is what allowed Rex's heart to be perfectly rgenerated without hiccups by the end of the game.

Although, the reason why I'm so hamstrung on the lack of them having nanomachines is that it was never added to the trinity cores. Throughout the entire game, it was only ever "data', "codes" "emotions" between the blades, resonance on Alrest, and the trinity cores. Nothing of physical substance was ever said/shown to be added to the trinity's. Not nanomachines, not human DNA itself, definitely not blood. I've even triple-checked the re-translated dialogue and kanjis.

So why in the world does Malos even have human cells that Nia can manipulate to begin with? Even those cuts and wounds that are on Pyra/Mythra are the real deal and not a common trait for blades. When looking at the wounds, she even has some "red" in them.

Not to mention Alvis' whole deal. He's even more separate and apart from the blade system; he wasn't even resonated with a person or human when in XC1. He had a form already "ingrained" into his core crystal when physically manifested in both the world of the Bionis and Mechonis along with Aionios. Even all the DNA and "light' encoded into his sytem while in Origin didn't change his form at all.

Plus, the core concept of the Conduit is that, while machinery can process the power distributed, to bolster them means having a biological connection or root. For Blades, that means having a driver stregthen their abilities. Bonus points if you're a flesh/blade eater who have literal body parts implanted into themselves

However, for Malos, Pyra/Mythra and Alpha/Alvis, all three of them have been shown to manage and use the Conduits' abilities by explosive proportions without outside help. All thanks to the bio-computer elements that are already within themselves. Which, in turn, means the human DNA/cells.

It is more than safe to have the theory that "donors" from Klaus' world were needed to implement the "bio-computer elements" into the cores themselves to properly manage the Conduit.

Another mistranslation here is that Nia is supposed to say “human cells” as opposed to “any other being”.

If translated like this, it gives us our first hint that blades are from the previous world of Klaus. Their memories and genetic makeup incarnated into the core crystals.

Although, this got me thinking: Malos isn’t a normal “blade” by any means, yet he still has human cells that compose his being. Same with the other cores; none of them follow the rules of the world.

While this could be the closest the game goes to verifying the trinity’s “bio-computer elements” from the siren-kit lore, I’d like to push it a bit further. It may be that each trinity core, when they physically manifested in Alrest, selected DNA of specific people from Klaus’ world as a “body” to inhabit themselves in which, in turn, makes their physical forms a pre-determined factor when they manifest (much like their gender).

After all, we know from Future Redeemed that genetics play at least a partial role in manifesting their power. For all we know, Dimitri Yuriev could’ve encoded his own DNA into the cores to assist in the project’s development.

And then there's Ontos, whose the "inbetween" of the cores. Not in any way apart of the blade system in XC2, yet had human DNA/cells in their core crystal to manifest a physical form. Best guess is maybe an equivalent of Wilhelm offered their own DNA to the project.

Last night, I read the re-translation mod for the first time. The transcript to be more precise.

I’m not sure accurate it is, but there was a significant word change I’ve noticed. Instead of “The ego of those who named you”, it’s instead “the ego of the one who named you”.

I just find that as an interesting implication of how the creation of the trinity cores went about. There are two possibilities:

1. The names of each core was given to them by one person during development.

2. Each core had a development leader who managed one of each core.

Personally, I’m more inclined to believe “2” due to the fact that each name has a different meaning behind it, so the “ego” for each development leader would be different.

Probably some divine emanation or something.

This franchise loves replicating significant features.

There's something very depressing about each of Klaus' reincarnations just going through a bout of loneliness. Each one just wanted someone to be by their side as they both question the purpose of their world and hope for something better to come along.

Each one is given an opportunity through the Conduit to fill that gap in their souls but, each time, they botched it. Klaus shut out the voices of Galea, Zanza became self-serving, the Architect was too blinded by grief, and Noah became Moebius.

Its easy to interpret the Conduit/God, purposely having Klaus' reincarnations fail again and again as very malicious with putting him through the worst of the worst. Although I'd wager that the Conduit/God wanted Klaus to understand that he shouldn't be so self-absorbed in his own goals in any lifetime.

Klaus was on a team of researchers who were trying to make the world better. Zanza had Meyneth and all the life of Bionis and Mechonis to assist him. The Architect could've helped and lived alongside Alrest in making the world better. Even Noah, in each lifetime, had friends who could've helped him achieve his goals rather than hyperfocusing on Mio.

It didn't have to be all bad...