Loving the game so far, but at level 30, I'm feeling like there is very little I can do to get stronger.

I played a little bit when it first came out, but this is my first real crack at it. Playing a Devastator, though I wish I had gone Elementalist. Flame Volley and Rolling magma with overwhelm and a Core Keeper tank is how I've been playing. Getting bonuses from Forge's elemental infusion and Ring of Flame, but at a point now where I feel like I have all the major upgrades that contribute toward my build. I still have some incremental damage from incoming active and passive skill points and gear upgrades, but most of it is just small damage upgrades.

I haven't tried the Overload mechanic yet, maybe that's a route, and im saving all my charms/relics for later. Also crit seems really hard to come by? I have almost no added crit%. It just feels like with 20+ levels to go there should be some other breakthrough point soon and I'm not seeing it. My damage and survivability are fairly good, but not great.. I just see myself getting outscaled by enemies at this point unless I find a new way to add significant damage.

Any advice on adding damage as I progress?

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 6 days ago

Is the Immortal King set good for finishing the campaign/early end game? I'm not counting on seeing the Ber's or Jah's needed for higher end gear. Looking at doing berserk/concentrate horker, or perhaps whirlwind horker.

Ive dropped 4 pieces of Immortal King on my first character, and Barbarian was already on my short list of alts to make, and the other pieces are cheap to buy. I'm at a point now where getting the needed runes to progress further either comes down to insane play time or insane luck, and it seems like Immortal King offers the highest "bang for your buck" out of the options for barbarian gear.

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Do you frequently roll your runes up to the next tier? Deciding if I should amass runes, or roll them all to get as high as I can.

I imagine the answer is situational, but I also assume someone has done the math on the value of trading up runes, vs using what you've got to trade online. Any thoughts?

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Newly into endgame, where should I be spending my time if I want high runes? I'm guessing terror zones. Apocalypse/bind demon warlock.

If I can get ahold of just one Jah and one Ber I can really get my build to pop off. It seems runes barely want to drop as it is. Ive been doing random terror zone acts, and the loot overall has been kind of mid I'm lvl 87 now.

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Can't believe I dropped this in a non-terror zone. Didn't know you could.

Was farming act 5 for a new bind demon when this dropped out of nowhere!

u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Couple questions about gear upgrades for my apocalypse/bind demon warlock.

Hey, so i am in Hell Act 5, lv 84 and still doing pretty well, but I'm trying to figure out where to go with my gear from here. I'm running full Naj's ancient vestments for its resists, +skills, and teleport.. overall a solid set. I have a mara's amulet, measured Wrath grimoire, magefist, and gheed's wager. Rings and boots are just magic/rare resists and MF.

I think my ideal swap is to replace Naj's with Mang Song's lesson, chains of honor, and flickering flame.. but mang's goes for roughly a Jah, and Chains of Honor needs a Ber... not sure I will ever see them lol. And switching to flickering flame alone isnt worth giving up the set bonus for Naj's.

Do I just dig in with what I have and farm? Are there maybe some good upgrade options I'm not considering? I think the most potent addition I could make would be for more fire resist shred.

Also, would it be worth it to use larzuk to socket my measured wrath with a couple perfect diamonds? My resists are currently maxed except fire at 65%, but if I lose Naj's I will have problems again.. and it would free up rings and boots for more mf.

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Um, I was just in Kurast sewers for the quest and ran into Diablo chilling down there. What the hell was even that? Couldn't even damage him it seemed like.

I am speechless. Is that a thing?? Can ol boy just show up wherever he wants??

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Would this be a good start for a horker barb? I left 15 points off because in my world everything over lv 85 is not guaranteed.

I don't have a ton of mf/gf gear yet so I'm not in a hurry, but is the basic concept of what I'm going for? I obviously can't put 20 in every relevant skill, and I will of course be wearing as much + to skills as possible.

Playing my first character now after a long hiatus and ive actually dropped 3 pieces of Immortal King so far, which i get is not ultimately what I want, but it would be fun to wear the full set for awhile just for shenanigans.

u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

This may be a dumb question, but I always see screenshot of people's inventories crammed full of charms.. and I get it from a performance perspective, but how do you carry all the loot home?

Personally I leave 3-4 columns open, and my prison wallet (hcube) of course. Do you just make a stupid number of trips back to your stash?

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Need advice on getting through early Hell as an apocalypse/bind demon, almost everything being fire immune is killing me. Bind demon slaps, but its so tedious waiting for it to kill everything.

Idk, I just hit this point in the catacombs of act 1 where I'm not sure if I'm having fun any more. I don't blame that on the game, but dealing with immunities is tough unless you have a dual-damage or magic build.

I was cruising in Nightmare and really felt like it was coming together, but Hell is tough. I went from one shotting most things with flame wave to now needing 2-3 waves on even basic enemies. Apocalypse and flame wave are just so slow and clunky too, even with 60% FCR.. maybe I'm playing the wrong build for me. I have bind demon maxed and run it with one defiler and one goat, and the demon itself performs super well, 1-2 shotting most enemies.. but in larger packs I'm just standing there waiting for it to finish dashing between them all just sending out the occasional inspirational flame wave.

My one saving grace is that I have (literally the worst roll you can imagine, then somehow worse) renewed flame rift waiting for when I turn 75.. but even then sundering doesnt take away most of their resistance right? Won't I still be hitting for next to no damage? I cant even imagine waiting until AFTER you beat hell to try farming a sunder charm, and I definitely cant afford an Infinity lol.

I'm just not sure what the move is. I know plenty of people do it. So what's the secret? How do I get my way through hell without wanting to apocalypse my brains out? That or talk me into switching to Echoing strike. I usually hate changing builds late game, but I'm considering it.

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

It feels really bad when you hit that 1.56% chance that the Countess does not drop a rune..

Lol, I don't think I have ever hit those odds before, I didn't realize she had a 'no drop' option.

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Some guy randomly gave me this jewel. I'm not sure if I'll use it, but it's cool. Do you think it's worth anything? Or should I use it? Ive never tried to sell an item yet.

I kind of feel obligated to use it since it was a gift lol, but i suppose if it could fund something I do really want, that would be cool too.

u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Are summoned goatmen supposed to be way stronger than the tainted? Goatmen tool tip is reading about 1000 damage at lv 7 where tainted is only like 100 at level 8.

Both only have 1 actual point in the skill, but maybe I'm just surprised at how little damage the tainted seem to be doing compared to the goatmen, it feels incorrect. I even have 10 levels in boiling blood which scales their damage. I wonder does the modifier from demonic mastery not apply to them because they use a ranged attack?

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

How big of an impact does area level have on the strength of a bound demon? Like would Hephesto from nightmare (lv57) still be stronger than a dark lancer unique in Hell Tamoe highlands (lv69)?

I get that there are other factors going on like what enchantments and aura they carry, just trying to get a gage on if I should be looking to upgrade or not.

Also, if you have any advice on what enchantments are best like stoneskin or spectral hit that would be helpful as well.

Thanks!

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Are perfect amethysts like super valuable? I am browsing traderie for the first time ever and seeing things go for 1 Pamethyst OR like a Mal, which seems crazy to me.

I understand they make caster amulets, but damn.. I did not expect to be able to get a Wizardspike or hexfire for a single gem.

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

I'm guessing there is no good answer, but how are people managing with such little stash space? I know it's a lot better than it used to be, but I'm not even in Hell difficulty yet and I'm starting to run out of space.

It feels like I am not supposed to keep all the set items I find (not duplicates of course), not to mention my uniques, runeword bases, old runewords to pass to alts, cool shit I find for different classes/builds, and even just some decent leveling gear at various levels to expedite alts... there just isn't enough room for it.

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I think we should have 5 personal and 5 shared at least. It almost doesn't feel worth it to make mules for 1 page of storage, but I may have to.

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And I'm assuming using storage mods in online or ladder games is a big no no. Not even sure if you can get away with mods offline.

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

How high should I be raising my strength as an apocalypse/bind demon Warlock? I don't really know what the armor/shield requirements are going to be late game, or how important high defense is.

Sorry if those is one of those basic ass questions, I just don't really know what I should be shooting for. Google says either like 156 for Spirit in Monarch or like 60-70 relying on lower level base items.. not sure which direction to go. Ideally I'm probably running one of the unique grimores at end game, but I don't know how realistic getting one is, so maybe Spirit is the way to go.

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Also Defense questions I couldn't figure out. How important is high defense? What value is considered a good defense? And defense just lowers your chance of being hit, correct, It doesnt actually provide any mitigation?

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

How does "-% to enemy resist" on armor work? Do I still have to hit the target to apply the debuff? Do spells count as a hit in this case?

Got a Hellwarden's will and was wondering how to apply its resistance debuff. I think with weapons you have to actually hit the target with that weapon, right? So not sure if I'll be able to apply it with my caster build.

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

What do I do with my gold? Is it time to gamble? What should I be gambling for?

I know that some of the shops sell those +skills base items that can be super good and super expensive, so there is an outlet.. but if your build isn't chasing one of those items it leaves me unsure what I'm hoarding it all for.

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Bonus question. Can gambled items be of any rarity? Like even set or unique?

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago

Splendor or Rhyme for early Nightmare shield? Apocalypse/bind demon Warlock. Not sure what the best option is..

So big bonus to Splendor is ofcourse +1 skills, but Rhyme has +25 resist all. Currently im running a grimoire with +22 resist all from diamonds, but I worry taking that away will make me a lot more vulnerable, putting most of my resist in the ~<20 range for Nightmare.

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u/Hank_Hill_Howdy — 2 months ago