u/Ill-Challenge-7718

Friend group of 3, 2 girls one boy (Freddie, Carly, Sam & Olive, Fletcher, China).

Chubby funny and weird friend whos also a main character but not in the main 3 (Gibby & Angus).

Two girls are bestfriends (Carly, Sam & China,Olive).

Boy has a crush on main girl (Fletcher & China, Freddie & Carly).

Main girl has a weird older brother (Cameron & Spencer)

Boy and other girl in the trio hate each other (Fletcher & Olive, Freddie & Sam)

Boy and girl that hate each other end up getting together in the end (Fletcher & Olive, Sam & Freddie)

- I kinda liked Brooke better in the highschool seasons than adults seasons. To be honest she had her faults in highschool and was very hypocritical but I honestly do like her and felt like she was really interesting. People kept saying that she gets so much better in the adult seasons and maybe its because I couldn't get past season 6 or because im not an adult so I dont understand it yet but (at least in season 6) she was just so overly depressed I had to skip all of her scenes. In season 5 i liked that she seemed like the same brooke just more mature but in season 6 she was just throwing me off and maybe its because they aged her up so bad. Like her being so pressed to be a parent at 22 literally fresh out of college and I do like Sam and I get her wanted to give Sam a better life but idk they just made her way too mature she just wasn't the same anymore.

- Instead of making Brooke so pressed to have a kid at 22 they should've made Brooke pregnant instead of Haley. Idk how that would've worked because of the whole Lucas storyline and i don't think I would've wanted Lucas to be the dad because then that wouldn't have looked very good with having Peyton like him while he got her bestfriend pregnant. I mean maybe if they brought Jake back to tree hill to finish off highschool and Peyton and Jake stayed together. If not Lucas then I would've said Chase? It obviously would've been too soon but whatever. I just think it would've made more sense for Brooke to have a baby instead of Haley because it really ruined Haley's character for me. Brooke already had her life all to herself to make her dumb decisions and live her life being a teenager so I think her having a baby would've been perfect. Unlike haley who never really got a chance to live her life besides the one wrong decision she made with Chris and going on tour. Her life after that was just Nathan and she already grew up too fast I wished they didn't age her up 10x more. I also didn't like how when Nathan and Haley got into that argument about "haley trying to trap him" because Dan got into Nathan's head and Haley saying how she does not want a baby now at all. JUST FOR HALEY TO GET PREGNANT not even a full season later.

Is it weird that I don't think Jenny was wrong in that situation with Eric and his boyfriend when she wanted him to sit below her on the steps and they wouldn't do it or was giving her a hard time? When Jenny first got voted queen she decided to make no more hierarchy and was constantly going against the bullies and it didn't do anything good for her. ERIC SEEN THIS! All they did was complain to blair and revoke her from queen then they went back to bullying her again which is what she was trying to get away from. So once she became queen again she had to play by the rules or else she would go back to being bullied. It was really a lose lose situation for her. All Jenny asked was for them to sit below them on the steps because if people seen them not following the rules then no one would take her seriously and then back to being replaced/bullied. And he did the absolute most which caused the fight. Idk maybe im missing something but I feel like nobody in the show understood Jenny. For example in season 4 when she came back after being "banished" and blair and chuck just kept starting shit and inserting her in the middle of their drama. Jenny made it clear she wanted no issues and even let it go after Blair ruined her interview (i think) but the second she retaliated by posting on gossip girl what really happened now dan and Rufus are on her ass and mad at her?? But everyone just sits there and does nothing when shes getting bullied instead of trying to help or transfer the girl.

I honestly didn't appreciate season 2 while I was watching because of how much I love haley and Nathan and her and Taylor were irritating me so bad but besides that I think it's really underrated it had a lot going on. I rlly hated the Lucas and Dan being close storyline though it just was destined to fail tbh.

Why did they ruin Lucas so bad after the time jump like oh my god. He has no good friendships/relationships with anyone anymore. We all know he had his problems with girls throughout the whole show but he was always caring, understanding and helpful towards everybody, but it seemed like he was just there? Like he just wanted to get married. He didn't have a good relationship with Jamie (not saying it was bad but I was expecting him to be like his keith and he wasn't at all) Skills and Jamie had a way better relationship and Skills wasn't even the closest with Haley and Nathan but Nathan and Haley. The only time I seen the same highschool Lucas was in season 5 with Brooke, he was so helpful and there for her. His relationship with Haley was cool but obviously not the same. Same with Nathan and it kinda felt like a slap in the face because the whole show was originally about him and Nathan / brotherhood. Maybe unpopular opinion but his relationship with Peyton in season 6 was absolutely terrible, he just never seemed happy. I think the same way they aged up Haley in season 5 they did the same to Lucas maybe?

Am I the only one who couldn't watch the Oc because of how unlikable all the characters are? Like Julie is so evil but she was the most interesting one out of them all idc. Out of the core four the only one that kept me watching was summer and luke because they were a comedic relief so I was heated to find out they took Luke off. Seth is the most annoying, unfunny, self centered character I have ever seen in my life and everything always has to be about him. Ryan is cool but he's not that compelling on his own to keep me watching a show. Marissa is an idiot like idc I get her parents were fuck ups but she was just a complete train wreck like u would think her parents were way worse than they really were by the way she was acting and trying to get everybody killed.

Am i the only one who doesn't consider Lucas cheating twice like I don't really consider the 2nd time cheating? I remember before I watched everyone saying Lucas cheated twice but when I got to season 3 and seen where he so called "did Brooke dirty again" I was kinda confused... like can someone explain exactly what he did wrong? He didn't kiss Peyton, she kissed him and she was dying wtf was he supposed to do push her and cuss her out like I don't understand. "And why wouldn't u tell me about the kiss" WHY WOULD HE TELL U the second Peyton told you about her feelings for Lucas you hit peyton and started mocking her about her dead parents. There was no reason for him to tell her because he didn't even like Peyton after season 1/2. Even when Brooke broke up with him, he still wanted Brooke and not Peyton literally told Peyton that when all his dreams come true he wanted Brooke to be there with him and not her. Also maybe another hot take but I feel like Lucas loved Brooke more than Peyton idk. I definitely wouldn't have thought this if Lucas did her dirty again after season 1 because people always say they're not team Brucas because he kept doing her dirty but like i said I personally don't think he did after season 1. It seemed like he really loved her and only got with Peyton because he was desperate, u can even see in his relationship/friendship with Brooke in season 5. And Lucas is way too confused and wishy washy about his feelings anyway. You were just in love with Brooke from season 2-4 and said you only want Brooke but u see Peyton at the championship game now all of a sudden it's always been her? Even when he was marrying Lindsay, we all knew he still liked Peyton but he acted like an asshole to her, only wanted or claimed he only wanted Lindsay even after they broke up and was literally about to marry her and then now a month or 2 later you're in love with Peyton and marrying her ok (like i said we all knew he liked Peyton still but I just don't understand the whole being in love with one person one second then realizing ur in love with someone else a day later)

Weird question but does anyone have any experience manifesting multiple people and using the same affirmation or similar affirmations for both people? Would u recommend I do that or I try to do one at a time or switch up the affirmations so i dont get confused?

It's always so easy for me to manifest the "small things" or the things I'm not looking forward to and I can do it in less than a day or hours. But I'm trying to manifest friends back that I really want and it's so much harder I'm trying to detach from it but it's so difficult. Im a robotic affirming type of person but I always find myself looking for it or expecting it but I know that it happens when unexpectedly. Like I'm manifesting a text/ call from 2 sps right now and anytime I get a text or a follow or any little "sign" I'm thinking it's that and it's so annoying. Do i need to stay more busy or what?

Am i the only one who thinks spencer and Olivia were overrated? Unpopular opinion but i kinda liked spencer and layla (before the hardcore depression) or jordan and layla better. I feel like Spencer and Olivia would just be better off as bestfriends or at least not long term because they're both so overly dramatic , opinionated and feels responsible for the weight of the entire world it just seems like too much for me to have the both of them together, I couldn't imagine them long term like even with them raising kids together I swear neither of them would ever be able to compromise or agree on anything because theyre so similar yet different because they both stand for different things. Idk what it is i used to love them but something just isn't clicking anymore.