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Maybe this helps damage control - what is the investigation process, maybe something comes out of this we can use to repair the damage ?

Aside from simply having an extra MP, what specifically do we gain from it? When we won in Gorton and Denton, it was the very first time we'd won a parliamentary by election, which was significant symbolically, as it showed the increased electoral threat from the Greens. Moreover, it was our first Northern MP, run on the idea of Hannah being a working class candidate. In some quarters there was an idea that 'this kind of candidate should have been in Labour' but for us, it was proof of our increased diverse offering as a party, in terms of class but geography, which had been long term Labour strong-holds. This time would be quite different. I want to lay out what all the different fall outs and possibilities are to best figure out what the next steps look like and what impact it will have on our own political decision making.

- Record 6 Green MPs - At least one more than Reform had from the last general election, and 2 more than they currently have who were elected as Reform candidates. That speaks for itself in contrast and how we can frame that in the media

- A first London MP

- Would Zack give up his position in the London Assembly? He was elected as a Green Party list member, which means if he resigns, then the position goes to whoever's next on our own party list - does anyone know who that is? Unless he decides to take on both roles, we'd be gaining one more elected official overall, and we may get social media content from his replacement, as well as Zack's own ideas for how to utilise his position in Westminster. London MPs are significant for being close to Westminster regardless. While we still need some more representation from the northern parts of the country, especially with the way Burnham has wanted to frame himself to recapture the red wall

- Having our sole leader as an MP? For the first time since 2012.

Symbolically means he can be PM, which although unlikely to come to fruition, does make him more threatening to the government in holding them accountable.

In contrast to Nigel Farage, would be powerful to show him winning a seat first time.

For the purpose of Cross party collaboration, would more easily allow communication with MPs from other parties we may wish to work for either openly or otherwise.

When Andy Burnham originally suggested he'd work cross party on Social Care policy, Nigel Farage complained that he wasn't invited to the meeting with other party leaders. While, as I understand Reform don't have any policies on social care currently, their leader not being an MP at the time could have played some part in that, at the very least in terms of optics. I'm not aware of what our policies are, but from Ellie Chowns' statement at the time there was disappointment that we weren't invited. There was no mention of this in the media, in part because they want to play off the idea that Labour are the main opposition to the right, but if Zack were an MP then it would be a lot easier to highlight this if it were pushed back upon and show what real cross party collaboration could/wuld look like. Ed Davey and Kemi Badenoch were involved - I don't remember anyone inviting the SNP but that may have been for other reasons.

- Make up of our group of MPs

Cuurently all our MPs are Cis White, relatively middle class vibe people, with Carla our only non straight person, as far as I'm aware. Zack would improve the diversity of our parliamentary team both in sexuality and as an ethnic minority. Far from the only Jewish MP but would be important nonetheless. Zack would also be a male trans ally, which would be helpful considering Adrian Ramsay is currently our only male MP

Adrian Ramsay (to a lesser extent Ellie Chowns)

Adrian still seems to be bitter about losing his leadership - a key argument around which was a non MP taking over from an MP to lead the party. By being elected Zack continues to show the growth of the party, his vision for where he wants to take it and may force Adrian to respect his leadership team and eat some humble pie, thus lessening some of the ways he has been undermined in recent times.

- Zack's plans for growing the party - Zack's argument against needing to be an MP was that it gave him more time and energy to grow the party in other ways. While of course he couldn't control the timing of this by election, I think there are still some things to be done. The most visible part of his plans was the podcast, and there are still some guests I think are really important that haven't come on (yet), I'm assuming he'd have to cut back some of its production - though other MPs have done or tried to do podcasts I think Ed Milliband.. and Angela Rayner tried to do one recently, most likely in response to Zack when there were murmurs about her leadership bid.

Whatever happens it puts him in a better position to scrutinise the government in time for the budget announcements...

Any other thoughts? Does anyone know who would come into the London Assembly?

Surely an MP defection must come at some point. We’re still getting stronger though, hopefully conference goes smoothly

hopefully a consolation to the Mayoralty race at least

Great video from one of our comms people who worked with Zack since the campaigning for the London Assembly seat

From what I heard they are seen as very similar to Plaid Cymru but simply haven't earned that trust in the welsh populace from being seen for such a long period in the same way? The main ways they could earn that trust would be to separate from the English and Welsh party as their own separate force - would help to prove that they don't turn into what welsh Labour were, but also to become more ingrained in the welsh language. They could have done quite a lot better by the end of the campaign but Plaid simply had a lot of resources as well as that swift political change with people afraid of letting in Reform.. it's a shame we weren't able to capitalise more before the next general election, but it's a good start

Idk if this was posted before but gets funnier with the recent announcements

Guess she could be vulnerable now to sucking up to JKR to relaunch any career