Can someone help transcribe the baptismal record for the 10th February 1843. Found, at 02427/07, Croom - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI page 56
I am having trouble making out a few of the words:
10 Bapt.^(ized) Rev.^(nd) L Gleison. _____ Patrius Reeves et Maria Lynch. Spo.^(ns) Rev.^(nd) Jno Reeves et Johanna Butler. Ballygrennan
A couple of weeks ago, I posed a question as to whether a baptismal date could be used as birth date, and gave supporting documentation for posing the question. The reason being, was I had searched the data online for locating my great, great grandfather. I could not find a baptism under the name in which he used, Terence, but did find a baptism with his "birthdate" as the baptism date, but the name on the baptism was John. The consensus was this was likely not the same person.
I now have reason to believe it is the same person. A son born to Terence has the father's name listed as "Terry/john."
Could someone please help me with the transcription of the highlighted entry? The record can be found at 02411/06, St. John's, Limerick city - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI
My best guess at the transcription is:
22nd | Johannes O'Sullivan hodie baptizavit Brigitam, die vigesima huius mensis di legitima Mathimo Natorum est Johannes McNamara et Brigettae Hickey. Sponsitus(?) Patricis Lynch et Hellen Dwan
I am not close to a FS location and wondered if someone could download and send me a copy of the item. I'm looking to verify death of a person and if it correlates to my ancestors. Thank you in advance.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS7C-GNS2
"Scotland, Civil Registration, 1855-1875, 1881, 1891", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS7C-GNSJ : Thu Jan 02 08:25:07 UTC 2025), Entry for Patrick McNamara and John McNamara, 3 Aug 1867.
Could someone please transcribe the entry and translate the entry for Bridget McNamara (3rd one)? For anyone who has subscription the page is https://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000635014_153
My best guess at the entry-I'm missing a couple of words and I'm likely misspelling a few too.
"6 McNamara | ?? Michael O'Carroll baptizavi Brigidam natam die 5 ex Joanne McNamara et Brigida Hickey Timothei Duggan et Margarita Lynch ??? Spons"
I’ve been trying to verify Irish ancestors and I’ve not been able to confirm the baptism or birth record. The birth is in 1855, before civil records. The birth date is listed on a death certificate. After searching all males born within 20 years of the birth date listed, I found a baptism on that date. I believe this is my ancestor, but I cannot verify for sure because the name is different. I found this information as it relates to dates. What are your thoughts? Have you found this to be somewhat true in your research?
"In Ireland prior to the start of civil registration in 1864, Catholic baptismal registers functioned as the primary documentary evidence for birth information. The National Archives of Ireland states that baptismal registers are the principal source for birth details before civil registration, and Irish Genealogy Toolkit notes that Irish Catholic baptisms typically occurred within a day or two of birth, making the baptism date a close approximation of the actual birthdate. Catholic canon law required infants to be baptized “as soon as possible,” a practice consistently followed in rural Irish parishes. Genealogist John Grenham emphasizes that for most Catholics before civil registration, the baptismal date is effectively the closest available birthdate. Historical scholarship, including Cormac Ó Gráda’s work on nineteenth‑century Ireland, documents that Irish individuals frequently used their baptism date as their birthdate in later legal, immigration, and pension contexts. Collectively, these sources support the conclusion that using a baptism date as a functional birthdate is historically and genealogically appropriate for Irish research prior to 1864."
The National Archives of Ireland, Guide to Birth Records, guidance on pre‑1864 birth documentation gives direction as it relates to using baptismal dates as birth.
The Irish Genealogy Toolkit, “Irish Church Records,” gives guidance on baptismal timing and genealogical use.
The Catholic Church, Codex Iuris Canonici (1917), Canon 770, lists the requirement for prompt infant baptism.
Irish genealogist John Grenham, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors (Dublin: Gill Books), discusses the baptismal dates as proxies for birthdates.
I’ve been trying to verify Irish ancestors and I’ve not been able to confirm the baptism or birth record. The birth is in 1855, before civil records. The birth date is listed on a death certificate. After searching all males born within 20 years of the birth date listed, I found a baptism on that date. I believe this is my ancestor, but I cannot verify for sure because the name is different. I found this information as it relates to dates. What are your thoughts? Have you found this to be somewhat true in your research?
"In Ireland prior to the start of civil registration in 1864, Catholic baptismal registers functioned as the primary documentary evidence for birth information. The National Archives of Ireland states that baptismal registers are the principal source for birth details before civil registration, and Irish Genealogy Toolkit notes that Irish Catholic baptisms typically occurred within a day or two of birth, making the baptism date a close approximation of the actual birthdate. Catholic canon law required infants to be baptized “as soon as possible,” a practice consistently followed in rural Irish parishes. Genealogist John Grenham emphasizes that for most Catholics before civil registration, the baptismal date is effectively the closest available birthdate. Historical scholarship, including Cormac Ó Gráda’s work on nineteenth‑century Ireland, documents that Irish individuals frequently used their baptism date as their birthdate in later legal, immigration, and pension contexts. Collectively, these sources support the conclusion that using a baptism date as a functional birthdate is historically and genealogically appropriate for Irish research prior to 1864."
The National Archives of Ireland, Guide to Birth Records, guidance on pre‑1864 birth documentation gives direction as it relates to using baptismal dates as birth.
The Irish Genealogy Toolkit, “Irish Church Records,” gives guidance on baptismal timing and genealogical use.
The Catholic Church, Codex Iuris Canonici (1917), Canon 770, lists the requirement for prompt infant baptism.
Irish genealogist John Grenham, Tracing Your Irish Ancestors (Dublin: Gill Books), discusses the baptismal dates as proxies for birthdates.
I performed several searches on both RootsIreland and IrishGenealogy for Terence Reeves. I performed searches for so many Reeves I cannot even begin to say. I found a "John" Reeves born on 10 February 1856 to Patrick and Maria Lynch. The birth date matches the DOB information on the death certificate from Ohio the year on the certificate says 1854. The handwritten entry does not look like "John" IMO. 02427/07, Croom - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI
page 56, right page near bottom
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634977?locale=en#page/56/mode/1up
The only other Terence Reeves I could find a record for was one from 1843 to John and Johanna Butler.
Interestingly, the sponsor of the 1856 Terence or John, is Rev. John Reeves and Johanna Butler. I believe, though not certain the parents of Patrick.
Did I just find the "Terence" listed as John at RootsIreland I've been looking for?
Of course the + sign on the baptism is of concern to me, but it could be an "x" which could indicate immigration?
I would welcome your thoughts on this.
I performed several searches on both RootsIreland and IrishGenealogy for Terence Reeves. I performed searches for so many Reeves I cannot even begin to say. I found a "John" Reeves born on 10 February 1856 to Patrick and Maria Lynch. The birth date matches the DOB information on the death certificate from Ohio the year on the certificate says 1854. The handwritten entry does not look like "John" IMO.
link to register:02427/07, Croom - Catholic Parish Registers at the NLI
page 56, right page near bottom
The only other Terence Reeves I could find a record for was one from 1843 to John and Johanna Butler.
Interestingly, the sponsor of the 1856 Terence or John, is Rev. John Reeves and Johanna Butler. I believe, though not certain the parents of Patrick.
Did I just find the "Terence" listed as John at RootsIreland I've been looking for?
Of course the + sign on the baptism is of concern to me, but it could be an "x" which could indicate immigration?
I would welcome your thoughts on this.
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I'm looking for definitive information on Terence Reeves. All the information I have found from the U.S. says he was born 10 February 1855. I have been looking for his birth record in Limerick, Ireland and I have not been able to find any Terence Reeves on RootsIreland, Irish Genealogy or Ancestry. I managed to find a Terence born in 21 October 1843. (its the last entry)
Is it possible he was 38 when he married Bridget McNamara who was 17 in 1881? Or is there a possibility his birth sometime in 1856 (54 or 55) was not transcribe or 'lost'?
From this marriage record, his father's name was John. I have identified another John Reeves that could also be Terence's father, but I have yet to find a birth record anywhere for Terence in the Feb of 1850's for the other John.
Any assistance in verifying who Terence's father could be for certain would be most helpful.
I'm looking for definitive information on Terence Reeves. All the information I have found from the U.S. says he was born 10 February 1855. I have been looking for his birth record in Limerick, Ireland and I have not been able to find any Terence Reeves on RootsIreland, Irish Genealogy or Ancestry. I managed to find a Terence born in 21 October 1843. (its the last entry)
Is it possible he was 38 when he married Bridget McNamara who was 17 in 1881? Or is there a possibility his birth sometime in 1856 (54 or 55) was not transcribe or 'lost'?
From this marriage record, his father's name was John. I have identified another John Reeves that could also be Terence's father, but I have yet to find a birth record anywhere for Terence in the Feb of 1850's for the other John.
Any assistance in verifying who Terence's father could be for certain would me most helpful.
I am trying to build my Irish ancestry and I am finding it exceedingly difficult to gain traction. I have looked on FamilySearch, but the sources are often vague descriptors of the church records with no definitive location for said record. The information is vague and is often lacking additional information.
I am looking for Terence Reeves parents. The best I can do is find a marriage record that lists his father as deceased. I cannot seem to find a birth or baptismal record for Terence.
Here is where I started:
John Joseph Reeves b. 17 October 1886
From there I found Terence and Bridget's Marriage:
And that is pretty much all I can find with certainty on Terence.
I have found Terence's death certificate which states his birth as 10 February 1854, although most of the sites has the year as 1855.
Based on Terence's marriage stating John is deceased before 1881, I found a death for a John in 1880 in County Limerick. Wife's name is Kate. The trail for me grows too cold to follow with certainty. I cannot even be sure this John is Terence's father.
I would be grateful if someone could help me find a birth/baptismal record for Terence and/or his parents marriage, birth, death. I'd be grateful to know how to go about tracing these ancestors more readily. Thank you for your time and help.
I am trying to build my Irish ancestry and I am finding it exceedingly difficult to gain traction. I have looked on FamilySearch, but the sources are often vague descriptors of the church records with no definitive location for said record. The information is vague and is often lacking additional information.
I am looking for Terence Reeves parents. The best I can do is find a marriage record that lists his father as deceased. I cannot seem to find a birth or baptismal record for Terence.
Here is where I started:
John Joseph Reeves
From there I found Terence and Bridget's Marriage:
And that is pretty much all I can find with certainty on Terence.
I have found Terence's death certificate which states his birth as 10 February 1854, although most of the sites has the year as 1855.
Based on Terence's marriage stating John is deceased before 1881, I found a death for a John in 1880 in County Limerick. Wife's name is Kate. The trail for me grows too cold to follow with certainty. I cannot even be sure this John is Terence's father.
I would be grateful if someone could help me find a birth/baptismal record for Terence and/or his parents marriage, birth, death. I'd be grateful to know how to go about tracing these ancestors more readily. Thank you for your time and help.
Please look at the image and tell me what the Irish Parish is. On the NLI website it is listed as "Knockany and Patrickswell" but I see and entirely different name. I'm wondering if the name changed over time. I see "Registry of Baptisms in the Parishes of Knockearey and Patrickswell."
This is a Irish baptismal record and this is what I see, but part of it doesn't make sense to me.
July 1810
8.71 John, Pat Reeves and Margaret Byrnes Ballin orana _?_ Maragret Quirk
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