u/Jagwarmeru

This is something I'm genuinely interested in coz Dowan could never have beaten these two with stats alone. They both have "Great Bodies".

During the fight the system kept saying that his stats were too high. But how high is too high, coz it for sure can't be in the 600s. So how high are hosungs stats.

Hosung was mid diffing Dowan who had stats in the mid 400s, so bare minimum his stats should be in the high 400s to low 500s. This is because even while weakened because of his injury he was still showing relativity to Dowan and would have won that fight.

This dude was strong but he would get eaten alive by any of the Bora guys nowadays

How well would Jihan do against the the following reps. Coz I know he would probably die from the cap guy and everyone above him.

I bought 2 this time . And I took y'alls advice. And I can't lie, it's much better on the rocks. And the taste is kinda growing on me. The herbal-esque taste is still pretty overpowering but this is a much better experience than I had yesterday. I might buy more in the future

Paecheon Jo, the immortal king. The patriarch of the dark crocodile society. And one of the seven continental stars, the 7 most prominent martial artists in the country of china.

Paecheon Jo is the master of the dark crocodile society, a small army under his control that numbers in the tens of thousands. It contains 20 low to mid level first gen king level fighters who are under the command of 2 outstanding fighters that are comparable to multiple kings by themselves.

Paecheon Jo is a member of the pre generation and is an extremely strong fighter who, despite being a swordsman, chooses to fight bare handed , even if his life is on the line.

This is shown when he fights yugang hand to hand and ends up losing an eye. However instead of raging, he finds it amusing, showing that fighting is fun for him. As he knew that if he had a sword the fight would end too quickly, he purposefully never fought with one against yugang in their many clashes .

This is proven as jeagyeon who was present for almost all those fights was surprised to find out that paecheon was a swordsman.

He has shown that in his base form , he has access to 3 masteries , those being strength, which enhances his already insane physicality, speed, which he can stack on top of his strength to make his hand blades faster and his bread and butter, Endurance.

Paecheon Jo has mastered Endurance to such a degree that he can circulate it through his blood. This causes his body to become much much tougher and turns his body black. This is his dark blood transformation.

This dbt makes his body so tough and enhances his body so much that he's able to regenerate from an attack that nearly killed him. He went from not even being able to stand, to being able to exert more power than he did when he was healthy.

He was able to deliver multiple hand slashes that cut through the walls with ease. He is also able to 1 v 3 the 3 people who beat his commanders and is able to hold his own without a sword.

His maximized endurance also allowed him to survive 2 attacks that he admits would have killed him.that is when for the first time, he becomes serious. He gets a sword and is able to speed blitz jeagyeon na, the same jeagyeon who was being compared to yugang ha, the man who took Paecheon Jo's eye.

He then nearly kills jeagyeon, but the sword genius Good Kim gets in the way. This leads to the two of them fighting, and Goo uses the same same techniques that nearly killed Tui Gun in order to beat Paecheon, but paecheon was able to not only dodge all of them but also counterattack as well, and injured Goo.

This means that even when he blitzed Jeagyeon, he wasn't serious as Goo was able to read his sword path before but he could not do it now. This led to Goo getting slashed about 5 times before he got serious.

In his base form, he is an A class Demi-God, a bit above Changsu. In his dark blood transformation form he becomes an S class Demi-God which is the same level as yugang ha, the man who took his eye , and Path Daniel, who almost killed him in base form. However if he has a sword in his hand he becomes a whole different animal. He crosses into the realm of the peak and becomes a C class God, the same level as current post awakened conviction gapryong.

Overall Paecheon Jo should scale to multi city block level with hypersonic speed (he's above every single first generation king except for Gitae. This would include Changsu who I have as the 3rd strongest 1rst generation fighter. He should also be above the current fist gang members, like pre awakening gapryong Kim who was on even footing with Young Elite and young Tom)

CHANGSU OH [MULTI CITY BLOCK LEVEL, LOW HYPERSONIC SPEED]

PAECHEON JO [ MULTI CITY BLOCK+ , HYPERSONIC SPEED]

Who should I scale next?

Changsu oh, the king of the jeolla kings alliance. He is the 3rd strongest 1rst generation fighter that we've seen.

Without even using mastery, he was able to kill mandeok bang without getting hit once. The same mandeok who was holding off 4 kings by himself. The same mandeok who is fast enough to keep up with people with speed mastery like Zack and Eli. And changsu made him look like fodder without even using a single mastery

He is the one credited with taking Tom lee's left hand, which is his dominant hand. This would mean that he was able to not only fight Tom lee at his strongest, but also take his dominant hand.

He is fast enough to keep up with Jinyoung park who can perfectly copy the speed of Elite, the fastest fighter in the fist gang.

He is also fast enough to counter "money demon miser" when it was inches away from his neck , and activate his counter along with another unique skill on top of that.

Mastery is when you overcome a wall in a certain field like power , speed , technique and endurance. This boosts your power , speed technique and endurance immensely. The high tier kings like yujae , jeagyeon, seongji and gongseop have only shown mastery in 3 of these Fields.

He is the first 1rst generation fighter that we have confirmed to have all 4 masteries, which is something not even James and Gitae shown.

He also posseses 2 unique skills, which are techniques that merge masteries in order to maximize effectiveness.

He is also very smart and knows his limits, which is why he didn't try to kill Jinyoung, but make him weaker by cutting off his thumb.

he is an A class Demi-God, which would put him above people like the prior mentioned high tier kings and would put him in the same tier of power as the young fist gang members as shown in the Gapryong Kim flashback.

This would mean he should have the same amount of strength as he was able to keep up with and exchange blows with a stronger Jinyoung than the one shown in the flashback.

Changsu oh scales to multi-city block level,(he is many times stronger than jichang, who was able to create a large building level shockwave with a single handblade strike. As well as jeagyeon na who was able to create a deep crater with his death kick on more than one occasion.) with low hypersonic speed (keeping up with even a copy of elite is impressive as a weaker elite with his unique skills is able to create anywhere between 3 and 10 afterimages. This would mean he is faster than the swordsman who Elite no diffed)

Changsu Oh, [Multi city block level with low hypersonic speed]

Who should I scale next

Why do people think he's weaker than people like pacheon. Like be fr. Shintaro has better IQ, better technique (he outperformed shingen technique wise) better AP , strength (he was still able to go blow for blow with shingen for a bit, the same dude who should be stronger than all the executives and we've seen what those mfs can do) and he isn't arrogant. Their durability is about even (since his durability maxing was compared to the black bones which shintaro has). The only thing pacheon has over shingen is experience. Ui shintaro is about even with base shingen, so how are people saying he's weaker than pacheon Jo

For me,I got Zack above Eli.

I ask this coz even with dbt he couldn't fully null the attacks of the two injured fighters. If these three were all full HP , do you think they could kill pacheon

I was going through my pics and saw that I had these two on the same level, so I want to know what y'all think. Who takes this

Johan is closer to Jake and Samuel than he is to path lil Daniel. And this will be my stance until we actually see him do sumn.

(Don't tell me about sum "he beats first gen king," coz warren beat 2 of that level at once (the no 2 and 3)

10.dbt Pacheon Jo with hwarang

9. Baekho kwon

10. Ui Genjo yamazaki

11. Ui shintaro yamazaki

12. Berserker Tom Lee (I believe this Tom is stronger than he was in his prime)

13. Prime Elite

14. Mujin jin

15. Path Jinyoung park

16. Gapryong Kim/ shingen yamazaki

17. Shingen yamazaki/ gapryong Kim

Me personally, I got my money on Charles