u/KataMod

Of Medieval music, her work is in a league of its own. Before minor and major scale, musicians created rooms for you to inhabit. These rooms were sublime -- in Hildegard's case literally divinely inspired -- and did not try to earn or appeal to your emotion. But they still evoked deep, heart-wrenching response regardless.

These spaces; these sacred realms of sound unfold and ebb and flow in ways that even later Renaissance era music started to drift away from as polyphony and counter-melody entered into the once extremely pure sounds. Yes, this would eventually lead to The Beatles, but at what price?

Hildegard's small but powerful catalog of music actually sounds like a living heaven. Her music does not demand, yet it also does not shy-away. She made musical soundscapes that said so much without you ever understanding a word. There was no trying -- it is the opposite of try-hard.

All music since has largely been exactly that -- trying to impress you with sound. The purity of this music from the 1100s was just enough of a step above traditional gregorian chant to differentiate itself and suggest something fresh -- but still grounded in such a simplicity that literally all music since has abandoned in every way.

To say 'music peaked in 1100' might seem a little troll-y, but there is truth to it -- there never has been and never will be again the simple combination of everything that made Hildegard von Bingen's music so powerful. Just before modern music's true beginning of the beginning, but long-after centuries and thousands of years of foundation in sound.

The goal was to connect you with something higher in the most pure, sincere way imaginable. To call your attention upwards. After all this time, nothing else has ever been as powerful in all of recorded music history. Music peaked with Hildegard von Bingen in the 1100s.

Of Medieval music, her work is in a league of its own. Before minor and major scale, musicians created rooms for you to inhabit. These rooms were sublime -- in Hildegard's case literally divinely inspired -- and did not try to earn or appeal to your emotion. But they still evoked deep, heart-wrenching response regardless.

These spaces; these sacred realms of sound unfold and ebb and flow in ways that even later Renaissance era music started to drift away from as polyphony and counter-melody entered into the once extremely pure sounds. Yes, this would eventually lead to The Beatles, but at what price?

Hildegard's small but powerful catalog of music actually sounds like a living heaven. Her music does not demand, yet it also does not shy-away. She made musical soundscapes that said so much without you ever understanding a word. There was no trying -- it is the opposite of try-hard.

All music since has largely been exactly that -- trying to impress you with sound. The purity of this music from the 1100s was just enough of a step above traditional gregorian chant to differentiate itself and suggest something fresh -- but still grounded in such a simplicity that literally all music since has abandoned in every way.

To say 'music peaked in 1100' might seem a little troll-y, but there is truth to it -- there never has been and never will be again the simple combination of everything that made Hildegard von Bingen's music so powerful. Just before modern music's true beginning of the beginning, but long-after centuries and thousands of years of foundation in sound.

The goal was to connect you with something higher in the most pure, sincere way imaginable. To call your attention upwards. After all this time, nothing else has ever been as powerful in all of recorded music history. Music peaked with Hildegard von Bingen in the 1100s.

And they all mix together in a counterpoint that underscored the futility of their lives!! 😢

[for a real-life example of this, listen to the first minute (or so) of this song:

Prelude to Act 1 https://vocaroo.com/1j4yYMfxCyaa

Then listen to the last 3 minutes of the climax of the same Opera: https://vocaroo.com/1ch9sBzBsJAI ]

basically the opening melody has foreshadowing in an intricate musical way that isn't completely obvious or fulfilled until the very end of the play.

The actual Opera Dewey is watching is Puccini's Turnadot, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turandot , but his actual insight into opera is more relevant to Wagner's Tristan and Isolde, linked above.

The material exists recorded, too -- it literally took me to gather 95 albums to complete Lasso's available recorded works. Of his 100+ masses, there were still a good 65 or so that were available -- mostly through streaming but some only through very rare CDs. Some lost to Vinyl records never digitized.

This project I've been doing on basically collecting all recorded works by every major composer is a big one, but IMO an essential one. And the Renaissance era was so intense, that I essentially took a break for nearly 2 years when I got to DuFay and realized how difficult it would be.

I had compiled all of Scarlatti; Wagner's non-operatic works -- even Telemann's full available repetoire! But between the settings, tones and even canonized alternate texts mixing with a true lack of care to have a one-stop shop compiling the majority of most or all Renaissance-era works... but then factoring in the works ARE available and there... it's hard not to feel like this is a bit of a chicken and egg situation.

And actually listening to this music, it is impossible not to feel close to God / spirituality or at least a higher-self. I had zero intentions on that, but the music is so explicitly divine and sacredly-made that it really rubs off on you as you listen.

Yes, one can make the argument that this music is 'too complicated' to track down. However, when you listen to it, it's so, so beautiful. It's vast. It's precise. It's amazing. It's essential.

I learned that for Lasso specifically people literally ran out of funding trying to compose his works and gave up for I think 100+ years before they tried again. I get that it's a large undertaking.

But I'm an complete newb to classical music who simply has access to advanced AI to help me catalog and sort all this chaos and I'm now looking at organized, coherent, corpus/'complete' editions for nearly all the Renaissance artists.

It took me weeks and I'm not done yet, but it begs the question: why is this not better compiled? The music exists even on streaming -- only a very small portion is exclusive to physical media.

It's hard not to feel that, overall, society is kinda like "I'm good on 1000s of hours praising Jesus and God, regardless how integral it was to music's foundation." It feels like the elephant in the room that only becomes more explicit when you actually put in the work to compile all this material and then actually listen to it.

It's almost silly to pretend that's not a partial factor -- it has to be. Because people have managed to work together to overcome all sorts of vast discographies and editions but when it comes to the Renaissance era, all this beautiful music is scattered across 100s of CDs and playlists and the only way to compile a complete edition is to do it yourself.

Am I literally sitting on the first true available Complete Lasso, Palestrina edition?

The music is so explicitly holy and spiritual, it's hard not to feel like this may have created a 'lack of enthusiasm/fire' to archive.

The material exists recorded, too -- it literally took me to gather 95 albums to complete Lasso's available recorded works. Of his 100+ masses, there were still a good 65 or so that were available -- mostly through streaming but some only through very rare CDs. Some lost to Vinyl records never digitized.

This project I've been doing on basically collecting all recorded works by every major composer is a big one, but IMO an essential one. And the Renaissance era was so intense, that I essentially took a break for nearly 2 years when I got to DuFay and realized how difficult it would be.

I had compiled all of Scarlatti; Wagner's non-operatic works -- even Telemann's full available repetoire! But between the settings, tones and even canonized alternate texts mixing with a true lack of care to have a one-stop shop compiling the majority of most or all Renaissance-era works... but then factoring in the works ARE available and there... it's hard not to feel like this is a bit of a chicken and egg situation.

And actually listening to this music, it is impossible not to feel close to God / spirituality or at least a higher-self. I had zero intentions on that, but the music is so explicitly divine and sacredly-made that it really rubs off on you as you listen.

Yes, one can make the argument that this music is 'too complicated' to track down. However, when you listen to it, it's so, so beautiful. It's vast. It's precise. It's amazing. It's essential.

I learned that for Lasso specifically people literally ran out of funding trying to compose his works and gave up for I think 100+ years before they tried again. I get that it's a large undertaking.

But I'm an complete newb to classical music who simply has access to advanced AI to help me catalog and sort all this chaos and I'm now looking at organized, coherent, corpus/'complete' editions for nearly all the Renaissance artists.

It took me weeks and I'm not done yet, but it begs the question: why is this not better compiled? The music exists even on streaming -- only a very small portion is exclusive to physical media.

It's hard not to feel that, overall, society is kinda like "I'm good on 1000s of hours praising Jesus and God, regardless how integral it was to music's foundation." It feels like the elephant in the room that only becomes more explicit when you actually put in the work to compile all this material and then actually listen to it.

It's almost silly to pretend that's not a partial factor -- it has to be. Because people have managed to work together to overcome all sorts of vast discographies and editions but when it comes to the Renaissance era, all this beautiful music is scattered across 100s of CDs and playlists and the only way to compile a complete edition is to do it yourself.

Am I literally sitting on the first true available Complete Lasso, Palestrina edition?

The material exists recorded, too -- it literally took me to gather 95 albums to complete Lasso's available recorded works. Of his 100+ masses, there were still a good 65 or so that were available -- mostly through streaming but some only through very rare CDs. Some lost to Vinyl records never digitized.

This project I've been doing on basically collecting all recorded works by every major composer is a big one, but IMO an essential one. And the Renaissance era was so intense, that I essentially took a break for nearly 2 years when I got to DuFay and realized how difficult it would be.

I had compiled all of Scarlatti; Wagner's non-operatic works -- even Telemann's full available repetoire! But between the settings, tones and even canonized alternate texts mixing with a true lack of care to have a one-stop shop compiling the majority of most or all Renaissance-era works... but then factoring in the works ARE available and there... it's hard not to feel like this is a bit of a chicken and egg situation.

And actually listening to this music, it is impossible not to feel close to God / spirituality or at least a higher-self. I had zero intentions on that, but the music is so explicitly divine and sacredly-made that it really rubs off on you as you listen.

Yes, one can make the argument that this music is 'too complicated' to track down. However, when you listen to it, it's so, so beautiful. It's vast. It's precise. It's amazing. It's essential.

I learned that for Lasso specifically people literally ran out of funding trying to compose his works and gave up for I think 100+ years before they tried again. I get that it's a large undertaking.

But I'm an complete newb to classical music who simply has access to advanced AI to help me catalog and sort all this chaos and I'm now looking at organized, coherent, corpus/'complete' editions for nearly all the Renaissance artists.

It took me weeks and I'm not done yet, but it begs the question: why is this not better compiled? The music exists even on streaming -- only a very small portion is exclusive to physical media.

It's hard not to feel that, overall, society is kinda like "I'm good on 1000s of hours praising Jesus and God, regardless how integral it was to music's foundation." It feels like the elephant in the room that only becomes more explicit when you actually put in the work to compile all this material and then actually listen to it.

It's almost silly to pretend that's not a partial factor -- it has to be. Because people have managed to work together to overcome all sorts of vast discographies and editions but when it comes to the Renaissance era, all this beautiful music is scattered across 100s of CDs and playlists and the only way to compile a complete edition is to do it yourself.

Am I literally sitting on the first true available Complete Lasso, Palestrina edition?

I was using Shippn to easily order CDs from many different countries. I had used them in the past and never had to pay this high of a fee. I am blown away how expensive this is.

I've used other parcel services before like ZenMarket, but was just doing this big project and thought it would be easier to use Shippn.

What is the logic of this shipping charge?

Shipping Charge 117.50 USD

Customs & Duty 5.00 USD

Insurance Cost 15.00 USD

Promotion Code Discount 3.52 USD

Total Charges 128.98 USD

I have been doing this project where I collect the best rendition of every recorded work from all major composers from the medieval era to the modern day. I'm on Lasso and finishing up, and this was such a gem I found.

Normally I just sail the seven seas, but I happened to have a subscription. I ended up watching all the episodes knowing there certainly has to be some censorship.

I want to go back and manually look-up all the episodes that do and watch those parts.

They seem pretty intelligible -- anyone able to transcribe what is being said?

I basically have given up on Damascus because I cannot hit these personal radars consistently -- any tips at all?

I was told Ground War but then told no, that's terrible, go with Shipment Hardcore, but both are not working out very well for me. I've resorted to joining Casual matches and hoping.