u/KingPenguinPhoenix

To cut to the chase, I did not like that Gru won. Based off the little clips that they released before the episode dropped, I thought this was an assured Megamind dub. However, when I watched the actual fight itself, I couldn't help but be severely disappointed.

Let's look at some of the reasons they let Gru win and why I think they're absolute horse crap.

Firstly, they said that while Megamind has more weapon variety, Gru's gadgets pack more of a punch and are easier to use, specifically the shrink ray. I'm sorry, what part about a gun that can "de" anything makes it hard to use? Also, did you see how long it took the shrink ray to work on the Moon in the first movie? Yes, the moon is a very large body compared to a person but aside from Megamind's death ray, none of his (Megamind's) gadgets take that long to warm up.

And in the battle itself, the shrink ray and the death ray are used the exact same amount of times (once) so this point barely means anything.

This isn't even mentioning the fact that Gru's gadgets have been countered by other people numerous times and he even had to borrow some from the AVL to become a better agent. Megamind's gadgets are all homemade and outside a few glitches, he hasn't really been surpassed by others technologically speaking (outside Machiavillain).

And look, I know we're using cartoon logic to explain why Gru was able to survive the death ray (and his clothes apparently) but there's no reason as to why the de-gun and the jetpack he pulled out of nowhere should have survived the blast.

And even ignoring both the death ray AND the de-gun, Megamind should've still won cause of his Metro suit. That suit would allow him to overpower all of Gru's super minions except the laser one (who they didn't even use in the fight) and the stretchy one (who was only used as a slingshot). That was an instant win right there and they straight up forgot it despite bringing it up in Megamind's breakdown.

And we have the last thing that really ticks me off. Gru only won by using Megamind's gadgets against him. Not even by his own merit (again, Megamind's gadgets are supposedly trickier to handle).

And before you bring up the point "Megamind is more cocky thus would lose in a quick draw", we have onscreen evidence of Megamind locking in during fights. He's only cocky when he thinks he's won (if he was gloating or had his back turned after the death ray went off, then I'd see that as more in character but no, he was looking Gru dead in the eye as he had his own de-gun pointed at him). He didn't even get a fire arm to have a chance to "shoot first".

And yes, Megamind has attempted to talk his way out of situations that would normally screw him over (and failed) but even then, he usually has some contingency or backup plan to ensure his own safety so him trying to talk down Gru at the end with no wild card also feels out of character for him.

Tl;Dr, I hate that they took cues from Megamind Rules into account when that show is donkey balls and shouldn't even be canon and it just led to most of this fight feeling silly. To this day, it's still ruining the blue GOAT's legacy.

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u/KingPenguinPhoenix — 15 days ago

Asterisk 1 and 2: If anything from the show gets retconned in a Twitter/Bluesky post later on, the post will take superiority however, if the show retcons/ debunks a creator post from the past, the show takes the lead.

Asterisk 3: Soft canon means that there's little to no official evidence/statements that it is or isn't canon. If a product falls into the soft canon category, you are valid in accepting/rejecting it as part of the main canon as no one can disprove you. The only exception to this rule I can think of is the Dark Island trilogy which the main show does reference.

Asterisk 4: Remember, just because the parent company said something, does not make them fully right. It makes their statement official, not canon (unless addressed by the first 2 tiers).

u/KingPenguinPhoenix — 22 days ago

In the season 4 finale, Eve says that it’s been 10 months (or at least, an approximate amount of time) since Mark left but when I tried to do the math, things aren’t adding up.

We know that it takes an average of 2 weeks to get from Earth to Talescria so assuming that’s the amount of time it took for Mark and company to get jumped, we’d have started the timer at 2 weeks. Mark and Conquest would have had their fight which would then leave Mark MIA for 2 months during which, Allen and Zoe were cleaning shop during the war.

The Graysons would then join the war after those 2 months and the assault on Viltrum would happen a few days later. Thragg would proceed to hand everyone their ass and head for earth. Mark and Nolan are then out of commission for 2 weeks, which gave the Viltrumites enough time to get to earth first.

Assuming that Mark and Nolan left Talescria immediately, they would’ve then spent another 2 weeks in space before returning to earth.

This means that in total, Mark would’ve been gone for 3 and a half months. And even if I wanted to be generous and round up to 4 months to account for any empty space time, that still isn’t anywhere close to 10 months.

I’ve also seen fans say that the Viltrumites had a couple months headstart instead of weeks and I’m wondering where these numbers came from. Am I missing something?

u/KingPenguinPhoenix — 23 days ago