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Yes another post about this is another post on the cartoon.

I would love to see Kara in the show. I mean Supergirl joins the Legion in the comics, the DCAU, and the animated movies. Plus I think it would be fun to see her interact with this version of Brainy. It would also be cool to see her interact with Kell-El aka Superman X.

Bart Allen is known to timetravel. Plus I like Impulse's look. I could see him looking up to the Legion with him being a young hero. Maybe he would want to join the legion.

I think it would be cool to see some Green Lanterns purely because of the idea of the Emerald Empress being connected to them. I wouldn't mind seeing some yellow and starsapphire corp members. I want the red lanterns but that is mostly because it would be awesome to see red lantern Supergirl in animation.

I would love to see John Kent Superboy and Damian Wayne Robin. Although that is mostly because I liked the super sons. That being said John and Kell-El could have some interesting interaction. Damian would probably be at least intrigued by the legion and it would be neat to have a batman character join a group associated with Superman's history. Plus I think they could be good friends with Abel and Zyx.

Admittedly i included Aaron Langstrom mostly because I think he is underrated. He is the Son of Kirk Langstrom. He was born a hybrid and doesn't have a human form unlike his father, mother, and sister. That being said he has been shown to be more sapient than his family's batforms. He has the instincts but they don't control him. He doesn't act like an animal or monster unless completely corned and even then he can stop himself. Plus he saved batman a couple of times in the comics. The legion timetravel a lot so it is possible to include him and the supersons. I feel like Aaron deserves more attention.

Mon-el is usually a member of the legion and is even considered Superman's brother by sups himself. Plus the lore between Daxamites and Kryptonians is interesting. Kinda surprised he isn't already in the show. The same goes for Zod, if we got a season three those two where ones that I would have loved to see.

What about you guys?

Unfortunately most of my Legion of Superheroes knowledge comes from this show. So sorry about that. That being said if loved how this show handled Brainiac 5. And I loved Superman x, I kinda wish he appeared in the comics or a new season. I mean we got the original the original Brainiac returning, 5 is now human, Clark is gone. There is a lot that could be done. Plus I love the idea of Kara showing up and meeting Kell-El. She joins the legion in a lot of continuties after all.

Also yeah I agree with that Anon. I adore that Kell-El acted like a big brother figure to Abel and Zyx. That's just such an interest relationship that it would be fun to explore. Abel and Zyx meeting would be very interesting. They are pretty different in a lot of ways. Like Abel is much softer and shy meanwhile Zyx is hyperactive and bratty. But there is something very intriguing about the two when you think about it. They both have villains sides, Abel in at least one future becomes a villain working for darksied and Zyx had a brief stint as villain in Child's Play. But deep down they both have big hearts full of goodness, both actually do care about others and both want to be heroes. Heck in the beginning of Child's Play Zyx looked up to Superman and wanted to be a hero like him. Plus Abel is tech focused and Zyx is magic focused so that could be used for some fun story telling. Imagine if they get to do some home alone stuff in the Legion base.

So yes I would love for Abel and Zyx to comeback and get to meet each other. Especially if we get more Kell-El being a big brother. Also i wonder how Abel and Zyx would react to Supergirl. Kara would probably adore them and help Kara be a great big brother. Though Superman X is doing a very good job. It's pretty obvious that Abel and Zyx see Kell-El as a big brother but how would they see each other. Also I agree that Abel and Zyx are adorable but I find their personalities and interactions with Superman X far more interesting and the reason I want them to return. I would love for them to get a couple of more episodes especially if they get to meet.

Also yeah the Zeroxian council fucking suck. They mistreated and screwed over both Phantom Girl and Zyx. One of which is a teen and the other is a child. Including causing them to get hurt. Anyone else fine with the idea of Brainiac getting rid of the council?

Also I would love to see how the whole legion would react to Kara. She would be the third kryptonian to join the legion and she is typically considered to be more powerful than her cousin in most continuties. Plus her and Brainiac 5 usually being paired together. And again it would be interesting to see her and Superman X interact.

Sorry that this post is so long and ranty. There is so much potential for a season 3. Especially with Brainiac 5 being human. The original Brainiac being back, and Superman X being a full time member now.

Like would the omnitrix get new features, what about the aliens getting new powers, maybe these hypothetical Omnitrixes could have some affect on Ben himself. Ps i like the idea of these Bens still being the classic original of it being summer vacation and all that.

The Gloobs from OK K.O. https://ok-ko.fandom.com/wiki/Glorbs could the aliens and maybe Ben himself even getting Turbo forms. We know Turbo forms can be good and aren't automatically evil like shown with TKO to some extent. So Ben wouldn't become a villain just uh more aggressive. Oh and an extremely strong boost in power. Ps Turbo Ghostfreak would be terrifying!!

I just think Chemical X could be fun with the potential of verity of abilities that could be given https://powerpuffgirls.fandom.com/wiki/Chemical\_X especially if each alien gets an original new power kinda like how blossom has ice breath or how mojo got the brain blast thing when he was given the power puff girl's powers.

Chemical Z has a lot of interesting properties that could be beneficial for the omnitrix. Hopefully it's the white Z rays that are used, the black ones turn people evil because they come from HIM. https://theppgz.fandom.com/wiki/Chemical\_Z then again getting a universe where the white z rays are used and getting a universe where the black ones are used would both be very interesting. Especially if those two universes have a crossover at some point. Plus those that use white rays can weaken and sometimes purify those affected by black z rays.

The Neurotomic Protocore is extremely powerful to be honest it could probably replace an Omni-core as a whole. Plus it's abilities and affects depended on how it is used. Making for one extremely powerful omnitrix https://dexterslab.fandom.com/wiki/Neurotomic\_Protocore

I wonder what ideas you all have for these Omnitrixes?

Like Lactrans are extremely advanced even mentally. To the point they could even completely break a Vulcan's mind if one wished too. But they seem to be able to communicate with less advance minds pretty easily as long as they don't have a reason to be hostile and are the ones to start it. At least based on Scotty's interactions with the six year old. Also geeze these guys are extremely intelligent even as six year olds. So could the communicate with a Changeling mentally without being overwhelmed by the great link?

Also I wonder if there is a Changeling or a Lactran that has a pet Moopsy.

My personal Ben 10 pick for this is Wolfen Sheep. The prideful hybrid. I like how he speaks and his abilities. And yes he can speak, he doesn't have many lines unfortunately but enough for his personality.

Although I wish they used his wool for something. Sheep wool can be surprisingly good for defense. There is just something about him I like. He has no fanart or at least i haven't found any of him. Who is your pick?

This is just for fun.

I have seen a lot of people Spider-man fits Sonic which I agree with.

Then I wondered who fit Spider-Boy (Bailey Briggs). And in my opinion I came to the conclusion that Tails and Billy Hatcher both fit.

Both Tails and Bailey are smart kids that start out as sidekicks but end up trying to strike out on their own to at least some degree. Both Billy and Bailey are kids that have strong and big hearts that care a lot about others even iff they can be a bit mischievous.

Sorry that I suck at explaining my thoughts here. Also I unfortunately don't have a Spider-boy rant so here is his wiki instead: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Bailey\_Briggs\_(Earth-616) I think he is a fun and interesting character. He does seem to have actual spider instincts that are a bit stronger than Peter's which is probably why he relies on his venom so much. If he bites the wrong thing then he will be in a lot of pain because spider fangs depending on the spider have a lot of nerves. Plus most spiders aren't immune to their own venom.

HERE IS MY USUAL BILLY HATCHER RANT:

Billy Hatcher is a wholesome and friendly kid that has a mischievous side but overall he shares a lot of Sonic's personality traits with the exception of him not being considered a static character unlike Sonic. And to be honest i question Sonic being a static character do to secret rings and black knight. Billy can get acared though his courage always come through. He is also very playful. Billy has a lot of variety with the egg animals and the many items he's got not to mention he can run into enemies with the eggs with the egg dash although this causes them to Crack. Egg animals only renain around for a short time. He also has a bunch of items.

Fun fact Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and a chao are in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. Billy is also in sonic riders zero gravity.

Billy and his friends all got chicken suits from the chicken god but Billy has his courage form which is unique to him. Billy's courage gave him an ability to to turn darkness in to light. I imagine he might be able to do this with other energies too. Billy even without the chicken suit can take hits from Dark Raven. Base Dark Raven can spread darkness from morning land to cause it to be consumed in eternal darkness. It's impies he could do this to Billy's world first. Dark Raven then gets amped by the gaint egg and that amped version is the one that Billy took a hit from. Plus I think Billy's design is cute.

: RANT OVER.

Some links: https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\_Animals

https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\_Gallery#article-comments-toggle

https://youtu.be/OPHxN0g1rpc?si=vQB\_8Qm7LR\_tkmiM

https://youtu.be/pD-WsrzY9\_Q?is=VnYenRDu9FPhscZi

https://youtu.be/iN3bkeYYNn0?is=b25YBya7XPa74TiY

https://youtu.be/tQuBL6\_rfyI?is=cdub-rW9U9qpnwCY

https://youtu.be/OcBlyAXuBic?is=E2KNfWNf8Y6VCYlI

Let's do it as if it is meant to come out before December on 2005.

I like the idea of being able to find the some other characters in the hub world and unlocking them that way. The main ones are unlocked from the story. The hub world ones are bonus ones with shorter stories. I think some of the characters would at least share some bosses.

These are my picks i hope you enjoy my ideas and please tell me your ideas:

Sonic obviously gets speed stages. He would definitely get the hominng attack, spindash (adventure version), light speed dash, light speed attack, and the bounce. I would love for him to be able to reach high speeds when going down hill. Oh and there should definitely be a city stage and volcano stage. Sonic shares a boss with Shadow and a boss with Tails.

Miles "Tails" Prower should have a combination of his Adventure 1 playstyle with his flight a bit more adjusted and his Adventure 2 playstyle where he can switch between using his mech or fighting as himself and using his tails to swap at badniks. He could also get his mega buster from sonic battle. I think his stages could be a fast pace version of the mech stages with some areas where tails needs to out of the mech and some areas where using the mech is the better option. Tails shares a boss with Sonic and a boss with Knuckles

Knuckles gets the treasure hunting stages as usual. With them being more unique and designed like they are in adventure 2 but with an even better radar then the on in adventure 1. So it isn't as annoying as it can be in sa2. He gets the water breathing necklace at some point too. So he can go underwater much longer than Rouge can. Knuckles shares a boss with tails and Omega

Shadow would probably play a lot like Sonic but with Chaos Snap amd Choes spear. I like the idea of him using Chaos Blast and Chaos Control. However he does have the bounce. I like the idea of him and Sonic at least have 1 unique stage they don't share. Shadow shares a boss with Sonic and Rouge.

Rouge plays a lot like she does in SA2 but with an improved version of the radar. She also has her bombs from Sonic Battle so she has another way to damage badniks and a way to get into areas that Knuckles can't. Rouge shares a boss with shadow and Omega.

I like the idea of Omega playing a lot like Gamma does in adventure 1 but with a bigger Arsenal. Like machine guns that tore through tougher enemies but only short one at a time, a lazer that can take out weak enemies in a large area, along with the hominng shot. So I guess he is a mix of Gamma and the SA2 mechs.

These are my hub world characters:

Billy hatcher could use his usual egg roll and Egg animal hatching abilities from his game. The eggs still cracks if you use them to attack enemies to much just like in his game. I like the idea that after an upgrade you can use his courage form to grab energy projectiles to create the spheres of light unlike the eggs these don't break but they can't hatch egg animals. I think His egg roll allows him to go pretty fast for a bit in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. There are also speed shoes. I think his design already fits the game and i think it is cute. The Chicken God gives him the suit back at the beginning of the story. Billy shares a boss with Amy and Cream. His first stage is his home village.

FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW:

Billy Hatcher is a wholesome and friendly kid that has a mischievous side but overall he shares a lot of Sonic's personality traits with the exception of him not being considered a static character unlike Sonic. And to be honest i question Sonic being a static character do to secret rings and black knight. Billy can get acared though his courage always come through. He is also very playful. Billy has a lot of variety with the egg animals and the many items he's got not to mention he can run into enemies with the eggs with the egg dash although this causes them to Crack. Egg animals only renain around for a short time. He also has a bunch of items.

Fun fact Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, and a chao are in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. Billy is also in sonic riders zero gravity.

Billy and his friends all got chicken suits from the chicken god but Billy has his courage form which is unique to him. Billy's courage gave him an ability to to turn darkness in to light. I imagine he might be able to do this with other energies too. Billy even without the chicken suit can take hits from Dark Raven. Base Dark Raven can spread darkness from morning land to cause it to be consumed in eternal darkness. It's impies he could do this to Billy's world first. Dark Raven then gets amped by the gaint egg and that amped version is the one that Billy took a hit from. : END OF STUPID RANT.

Cream could get the spin dash and having Cheese attack the enemies. She can also use her ears to fly. She plays like mechless Tails. One of her stages should definitely be her home town. Cream shares a boss with Billy and metal sonic.

I like the Idea of Amy Rose getting a faster version of her Adventure game play but with the addition of a spin dash to add more movement speed options. She moves faster then her SA1 gameplay and can use her hammer to break some walls giving her access to different areas. Plus she could get her tornado from Sonic Battle. Shares a boss with Billy and Metal sonic.

Metal Sonic goes through speed stages but he can fly. If you charge up a meter then he can use his overdrive attack to speed through the stage and destroy enemies. He is the last and hardest character to unlock because he is the second most busted one. He wants to prove he is the best which is what his story is about. Super Sonic is even more busted of course.

And of course there would be a super sonic fight against a gaint monster like usual. After beating the super sonic story Super Sonic you can turn into super sonic in any stage by collecting 50 rings just like in the classic games.

Here are some links:

https://youtu.be/XwtNXo1aQgs?is=lg5zXMbDTCmFD4Oo

https://youtu.be/UP38Ra4LuGU?is=t3J9PRcKYYf2Mw3e

https://youtu.be/SmUjQ_huKgs?is=s66DmMSvwyp4Ksbs

https://youtu.be/7hxMUZmb93s?is=gKw4iqlNDXzH97iQ

https://youtu.be/R3P1tuXTKjU?is=tbMZEFud8--H1hsA

https://youtu.be/ULL5MyL_WFM?is=zXrW6xAf2XrJ2pxl

https://youtu.be/dHN7PKfTwds?is=jXvrXI1uQQiUTN6M

https://youtu.be/iN3bkeYYNn0?is=sehRnmD6vugZ-xbb

https://youtu.be/FwBJPJZp7K4?is=mI3gca7GxhLKHjsd

https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_Animals

https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_Gallery#article-comments-toggle

https://youtu.be/OPHxN0g1rpc?si=vQB_8Qm7LR\\\_tkmiM

https://youtu.be/pD-WsrzY9_Q?is=VnYenRDu9FPhscZi

I am unfortunately not a game designer or modder. This for fun.

For me I think Nanotech Parker-Richards deserves more fan art. I don't think he has any fan art and if he does it is probably an extremely little art. He is pretty interesting and sad. He was tortured as an experiment then when he broke free all he wanted was a family. Oh and he has the mind of a child. His farther was a pickpocketer that found him, the man was a coward, like he did get legit upset when he that Nano died and he even at one point tries to get Nano to run despite knowing he would go to jail. But that man's greed and cowardness prevents him from being a good father. Oh and Nanotech's mom is the scientists that tortured him for his first whole existence despite knowing he is sapient. She sucks.

To be honest i do like the idea of him going to a thief and gaint monster to a hero. I just wish he was still a kid. It was a bit jarring that he suddenly had a completely different mind and personality. I do mostly like the golden hero look though i feel like the car rim gauntlet thing that go up on the 13 image was gone, the same for the blue orbs on the 14 one. I like the huge arsenal of weapons he gets. If i remember right his eyes changed colors when using his full arsenal. I do love the gold. I wish his right hand was red. I like the idea of him having hands that are different colors.

Also if he was still a kid then it could be fun if even while being a hero he still has some thiefish tendencies. Like little Nano pickpocketing candy from Silver Sentry that Sentry was going to give to him anyways. I wonder if Nano would have a fear of things being tooken away from him.

Side note did anyone else forget how many forms Nanotech has.

Sorry for the insane amount of reading in advance.

What might they look like and how might they fight.

The rings interacting with Shadow's black arms dna and his chaos abilities like chaos spear and chaos snap. Especially if shadow still got the fire, wind, and darkness abilities. Even with his character arcs shadow still has a shit tone anger, that combined with his resolve to get things done without wasting time could end terribly for Alf Layla wa-Layla.

Especially if we assume Sonic and Shadow are always equal in power. Sonic in that game went through Night palace which is described as universal and infinite in size. He also fights Erazor Djinn in base who was destroying the pages that are described as universes. So a Darkspine shadow should be pretty powerful in his own right. And that's without him taking off his inhibitor rings. Although doing so as Darkspine Shadow might kill him similar to how he was warned to no take them off in shadow generations. Even without taking off his inhibitor ring shadow has a huge arsenal at his disposal. He even has a move could chaos magic from sonic battle. Not to mention shadow has martial arts training so his kicks already pack a punch. And he has insane stamina which will benefit his Darkspine form. Not to mention Darkspine Shadow potentially combining the elements with his chaos spears.

I included Tails party because I want to know what Darkspine Tails would look like. That being said despite being a little kid Tails is still pretty fast in his own right being able to keep up with Sonic and even metal sonic when flying even though he isn't as fast as them. Tails is also a super genius. Darkspine Tails would likely move all over the place and would be taking advantage of all the elemental abilities he can even while being full up with Anger, Hatred, and Sadness.

Amy Rose is not someone you want to piss of. She is already pretty fast and strong and that's with weights on at least according to Sonic Battle. So now her strength and speed are being boosted and top of her wielding a giant hammer. Especially when Darkspine Amy is probably lighting the hammer on fire. Amy is pretty prone to anger especially to those that hurt her friends.

Blaze is the fire welding princess of course I'm including her in on a form that has fire. Plus when she gets angry her flames increase in heat. I could see her using the fire and wind to increase her own flames. Plus the strength from the Darkspine form. Blaze is already comparable to sonic in speed and assuming power over all.

Billy Hatcher is a wholesome and friendly kid that has a mischievous side but overall he shares a lot of Sonic's personality traits with the exception of him not being considered a static character unlike Sonic. And to be honest i question Sonic being a static character do to secret rings and black knight. Either way Billy's character development had nothing to do with anger. I feel like Darkspine Billy could boost the power of the egg animals he hatches if they use fire or wind.

Potentially Darkspine Billy could stack his courage onto the form. Billy's courage form already has a fiery aura. Billy's courage gave him an ability to to turn darkness in to light. I imagine he might be able to do this with other energies too. Billy even without the chicken suit can take hits from Dark Raven. Base Dark Raven can spread darkness from morning land to cause it to be consumed in eternal darkness. It's impies he could do this to Billy's world first. Dark Raven then gets amped by the gaint egg and that amped version is the one that Billy took a hit from. So I think Darkspine Billy can win against Alf Layla wa-Layla despite Darkspine Billy not being as powerful as Darkspine Sonic and Shadow. A potential Darkspine Billy (courage form) could be cool. Plus the speed and strength increases would be useful. And I just realized Billy now has control over darkness and light. Oh and the chicken suit comes from a chicken god. And his courage stuff is something only he can do, his friends don't seem to be able to do it. I could see Darkspine Billy catching Alf Layla wa-Layla's Dark spark and Spirit Blast attacks.

Silver will do anything to protect the future and while he can be as stoic as shadow and blaze. He is also very head strong and a bit temperamental especially in a fighting. Not to mention all the elements abilities combined with his psychokinesis is a terrifying combo. Not to mention the strength boost might apply to his Telekinesis too. He can probably catch Alf Layla wa-Layla's attacks too.

Admittedly I mostly picked Surge because of the idea of her using electricity and fire. So I didn't think her through that much. So does have a lot if Anger, Hatred, and Sadness due to her backstory though. I wonder if the world rings could save her from her brainwashing.

Anyways here is some links: https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Darkspine\_Sonic

https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\_Animals

https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\_Gallery#article-comments-toggle

https://youtu.be/OPHxN0g1rpc?si=vQB\_8Qm7LR\_tkmiM

https://youtu.be/pD-WsrzY9\_Q?is=VnYenRDu9FPhscZi

https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Fire

https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Dark

https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Wind

The world rings also seem to give immunity to eraser as a whole. Oh and they massively increase both speed and especially strength considering Darkspine sonic can kick back Alf Layla wa-Layla's strongest attack Spirit Blast.

What are your ideas?

Shadow is likely looking for either eggman or a new villain potentially either a rogue G.U.N agent, a black arms member, or something intirerly new. Either way Shadow gets some help you wouldn't expect. Also i like the idea of there being different poses depending on both who you are playing as and who is with who when beating a stage or boss. Like Shadow and Tails have a different poses from Shadow and Billy, ect. And yes there should be some poses with all three.

Shadow the hedgehog would have the obvious moves like hominng attack, spin dash, boost, and his chaos spears. But i also think the Chaos Control https://youtu.be/t7RZk24qSGg?is=_uGRiAIT6X8VaBxD and Chaos Blast https://youtu.be/0IZKDn3w31k?is=JHiB--BlC11tQVxP meters should return with some slight changes. They where fun https://youtu.be/kzkvlPbQrIw?is=D-lVe0mAWSpAmFv_ and if possible Shadow should get his super form in a final boss. Along with the 50 rings transformation like in classic.

Miles "Tails" Prower should have a combination of his Adventure 1 playstyle https://youtu.be/ULL5MyL_WFM?is=zXrW6xAf2XrJ2pxl and his Adventure 2 playstyle https://youtu.be/R3P1tuXTKjU?is=tbMZEFud8--H1hsA where he can switch between using his mech or fighting as himself and using his tails to swap at the enemies. He can switch depending on which is needed. Maybe his mech should be tied to a meter. I imagine his mech can get all the upgrades from SA2. And he should also have a super form too. Shadow got Tails help because he's intelligence would be pretty useful. I mean this is the same kid that made a fake chaos emerald that is extremely similar to a real one.

Billy Hatcher would want to help so the Chicken God gave him back the chicken suit and put some Eggs from morning land in the stages so he can help shadow after Shadow and Tails visited billy's home town. Also i like the idea of him being able to turn into his courage form but I also like the idea of him getting a super form. I guess he could have two transformations as long as they have different ways to activate them. His courage form could be tied to his meter. I imagine the eggs and egg animals would act exactly like they do in his game.

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For those that don't know this is Billy Hatcher. Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg was such a fun game, like really fun, SonicTeam and Sega did a good Job with that game in my opinion. Billy has a lot of the same personality traits that Sonic but Billy isn't a static character, Billy can go through character development. Infact he goes through a bit character development and character growth in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. Billy is polite and wholesome with friends but otherwise he has a lot of Sonic's personality traits. So there's a lot of story potential for the game and yes i like the idea of Billy being in the story.

Plus Sonic, Tails, and knuckles are in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. And Billy Hatcher is playable in Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, sega all stars racing, and his game is referenced in Shadow The Hedgehog.

Billy has a lot of abilities like egg roll, egg slame, egg animal hatching and which have a lot of versatility https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_Animals which are abilities Billy shares with his friends in his game, they are all also real strong and fast. Billy does have a unique ability, his courage boost thing can boost his states and can turn dark Raven's spheres of darkness into spheres of light, this should work on other forms of energy too. In other words the final boss shows that the more courage Billy has the more powerful he is. And he could potentially use his courage form to grab energy projectiles like the energy attacks some badniks have and use them like he does Dark Raven's https://youtu.be/OPHxN0g1rpc?is=djLRYFQvN2jLnBjv the spheres of light seem to be stronger than the eggs but they obviously can't hatch egg animals and they are risky as you could potentially get hit by the projectiles while trying to grab a projectile. his already strong enough to lift giant eggs and fast enough to keep up with Sonic characters in short bursts at least. Billy has some other moves and abilities in his game that could be transformed over.

Billy Hatcher is a kid I wouldn't recommend underestimating. Although that Chichen Suit does disappear if he gets hit leaving him as a normal human in normal clothes in his game at least. I still wouldn't underestimate him as he could still take hits even without the chicken suit. Billy also has a lot of stuff like the circus hat that can let him roll the eggs by running on them instead of pushing them. along with a bunch of other items https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg_Gallery#article-comments-toggle there is also this person that made a post going over a lot of the stuff Billy can do https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/s/NaGsLFZib5 I would recommend playing the game for your self as i could be forgetting something.

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I think it would be fun if Shadow, Tails, and Billy each got three unique stage and three unique boss that the others don't fight. But most of the stages and bosses are shared between at least to of them. Like Shadow abd Tails share some stages and bosses, Shadow and Billy share some stages and bosses, Billy and Tails share some stages and bosses, and all three share some stages and bosses. And all three have the 50 rings super form unlocked after beating the final story.

Unfortunately I'm not a game designer or modder. This is just for fun, I can't actually make a game or mod of this.

What characters would you like to add? also it could be fun to go over potential gameplay and/or story but that's if you want to.

These are my picks:

I think Mighty and Ray would just be fun to play. I could see them both fitting treasure hunts. Ray could have his glid being different from knuckles. Mighty's shell could give him spike immunity like usual along with deflecting projectiles. Also i like the idea of them having super forms like in the classic games. The two like going on adventures plus Sonic broke them out of prison.

I think it would be fun to have Cream play like she does in the advance games. Meaning she can attack the G.U.N bots bit she can also have Cheese attack them. G.U.N is going to loose a lot of bots and money due to a child and a chao. Maybe she should get a super form too.

I know Chaos is already playable but I wish he had a mix of his battle moveset https://youtu.be/FwBJPJZp7K4?is=9Ecs3kHDLRgszJCU and his adventure moveset https://youtu.be/Yv7d6VF9uLI?is=hGD9nzB8LfoqkAWd insyeaf of being extremely similar to knuckles. plus maybe he could turn into Chaos 2 if he gets 50 rings. We also learned in Sonic Battle that he does guard the master emerald.

I like the Idea of Amy Rose getting a faster version of her Adventure game play https://youtu.be/dHN7PKfTwds?is=jXvrXI1uQQiUTN6M but with the addition of a spin dash to add more movement speed options. She is already in the story and I think she could go through the speed stages. She is already in the story

Miles "Tails" Prower should have a combination of his Adventure 1 playstyle https://youtu.be/ULL5MyL\_WFM?is=zXrW6xAf2XrJ2pxl and his Adventure 2 playstyle https://youtu.be/R3P1tuXTKjU?is=tbMZEFud8--H1hsA where he can switch between using his mech or fighting as himself and using his tails to swap at G.U.N robots. He can switch depending on which is needed. So another child destroys G.U.N property. This is probably just a coincidence. This one also hacked G.U.N.

Billy Hatcher i think could work in the speed stages mostly because of some of the items and egg animals. Although he might be able to work in treasure hunt. Both stages could allow Billy to play a lot like he does in his game just a bit faster. Although he can already move decently fast in his game. Either way he would want to help so the Chicken God gave him back the chicken suit and put some Eggs from morning land in the stages so he can help sonic and them. Also i like the idea of him being able to turn into his courage form but I also like the idea of him getting a super form. I guess he could have two transformations as long as they have different ways to activate them. Also that's a third child destroying G.U.N robots. This has got to be some sort of cosmic karma for ending Maria Robotnik.

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For those that don't know this is Billy Hatcher. Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg was such a fun game, like really fun, SonicTeam and Sega did a good Job with that game in my opinion. Billy has a lot of the same personality traits that Sonic but Billy isn't a static character, Billy can go through character development. Infact he goes through a bit character development and character growth in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. Billy is polite and wholesome with friends but otherwise he has a lot of Sonic's personality traits. So there's a lot of story potential for the game and yes i like the idea of Billy being in the story.

Plus Sonic, Tails, and knuckles are in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. And Billy Hatcher is playable in Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, sega all stars racing, and his game is referenced in Shadow The Hedgehog.

Billy has a lot of abilities like egg roll, egg slame, egg animal hatching and which have a lot of versatility https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\_Animals which are abilities Billy shares with his friends in his game, they are all also real strong and fast. Billy does have a unique ability, his courage boost thing can boost his states and can turn dark Raven's spheres of darkness into spheres of light, this should work on other forms of energy too. In other words the final boss shows that the more courage Billy has the more powerful he is. And he could potentially use his courage form to grab energy projectiles like the energy attacks some badniks/robots have and use them like he does Dark Raven's https://youtu.be/OPHxN0g1rpc?is=djLRYFQvN2jLnBjv the spheres of light seem to be stronger than the eggs but they obviously can't hatch egg animals and they are risky as you could potentially get hit by the projectiles while trying to grab a projectile. his already strong enough to lift giant eggs and fast enough to keep up with Sonic characters in short bursts at least. Billy has some other moves and abilities in his game that could be transformed over.

Billy Hatcher is a kid I wouldn't recommend underestimating. Although that Chichen Suit does disappear if he gets hit leaving him as a normal human in normal clothes in his game at least. I still wouldn't underestimate him as he could still take hits even without the chicken suit. Billy also has a lot of stuff like the circus hat that can let him roll the eggs by running on them instead of pushing them. along with a bunch of other items https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\_Gallery#article-comments-toggle there is also this person that made a post going over a lot of the stuff Billy can do https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/s/NaGsLFZib5

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Everyone else got super forms so of course Sonic and Shadow should get super forms that they can use in stages by collecting 50 rings. And of course the rings drain for all of the super forms.

I also like the idea of adding Hyper Sonic. There should probably be a unique way to unlock him. And he should probably require more rings to activate then super sonic. I love the idea of Hyper Sonic having his Hyper Flash to clear way enemies on screen within a certain radius. Making it obvious why you need Super Sonic to collect so many rings to turn Hyper.

This is all for fun. Unfortunately I can't make or mod games.

I think Tails and the Chao have adorable poses. Then again i think Billy Hatcher also has an adorable pose. I think those three are pretty cute already and them posing together is cute. To bad you can't get Sonic and Tails at the same time.

And of course Sonic is being very cool. I think Sonic would be a great big brother figure for Billy , and Tails and Billy would definitely get along. Although they would probably get into trouble.

I bet Billy adore exploring a Chao garden with all the Chao.

And of course Knuckles is ready for a fight.

Let's say they're at their full power and completely intact mentally. Both are extremely powerful with magic and both are actually very skilled fighters when looking at their history. People seem to forget that Rise Shredder was a general and a ninja master. And of course 2003 Oroku Saki was skilled enough to fight a demon. So if these two where to fight would the earth get destroyed or are we relatively fine?

For those that are curious this is basically a sequel to a post where me and others come up with a fighting game roster https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/s/hRWYFBqa9R I think I give some decent ideas and there is a lot of great ideas in the comments. The same goes for the comments here too https://www.reddit.com/r/createaroster/s/bAgDESVyzY

I like the idea of Sonic having a split transformation route where he could either turn into Super Sonic or Dark Super Sonic. Especially if one of Dark Super Sonic's moves is a recreation of what he did to the gold and silver metarex.

Anyways I think some good stages would be Twinkle Park (SA1), marble zone (Sonic 1), Green Hill (Sonic 1), Oil Ocean (Sonic2), Mushroom Hill (S&K), windy valley (SA1), Pumpkin hill (sa2), the ark (sa2/Shadow The Hedgehog/Shadow generations), Grand Metropolis (Heroes), Forest Village (Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg), Westopolis (shadow the hedgehog), Crisis City (06), Flame Core (06), Altitude Limit (rush), Battle Highway (sonic battle), Planet Wisp (Sonic Colors), Kronos Island (Frontiers), frog forest (heroes), jungle joyride (unleashed), and Eggperial City (idw).

I love the idea of the stages having hazards and platforms. Like the ark having the gravity cylinders which you can use to get to othe platforms or jump from for crazy combos. A good hazards example could be thw lazers from westopolis occasionally showing up on part of the stage.

If i where to pick a type of fighting game, I like the idea of a 2d sprite one that plays similar to streat fighter or dragon ball fighters with a bit of sparking zero mixed in if that makes sense. What type of fighting game do you think would fight Sonic?

This isn't really meant to be a powerscalling thing because Mephiles definitely out scales Billy. Billy isn't weak by any means but Mephiles os definitely more powerful. It's more like how what would the fight look like and be like if Billy has a chance to win. Plus i personally don't want Billy to die. Mephiles does have a lot of abilities at his disposal

https://youtu.be/ogV37dGGm18?is=oKdyTq5-xogpYF5l

https://youtu.be/a8w9hl6JHLg?is=XsEYSUzpkrKLTrT9

https://youtu.be/BlJSluCpX1c?is=0HRO4QW4Zf9gK5rJ and that's without mentioning his time travel abilities.

For those that don't know this is Billy Hatcher. Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg was such a fun game, like really fun, SonicTeam and Sega did a good Job with that game in my opinion. Billy has a lot of the same personality traits that Sonic but Billy isn't a static character, Billy can go through character development. Infact he goes through a bit character development and character growth in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. Billy is polite and wholesome with friends but otherwise he has a lot of Sonic's personality traits. So there's a lot of story potential for the game and yes i like the idea of Billy being in the story. Plus Sonic, Tails, and knuckles are in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. And Billy Hatcher is playable in Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, sega all stars racing, and his game is referenced in Shadow The Hedgehog. Billy has a lot of abilities like egg roll, egg slame, egg animal hatching and which have a lot of versatility https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\\\\\\\_Anima . which are abilities Billy shares with his friends in his game, they are all also real strong and fast. Billy does have a unique ability, his courage boost thing can boost his states and can turn dark Raven's spheres of darkness into spheres of light, this should work on other forms of energy too. In other words the final boss shows that the more courage Billy has the more powerful he is. And he could potentially use his courage form to grab energy projectiles like Mephiles's energy ball attacks use like he does Dark Raven's https://youtu.be/OPHxN0g1rpc?is=djLRYFQvN2jLnBjv the spheres of light seem to be stronger than the eggs but they obviously can't hatch egg animals and they are risky as you could potentially get hit by the projectiles while trying to grab a projectile. his already strong enough to lift giant eggs and fast enough to keep up with Sonic characters in short bursts at least. Billy has some other moves and abilities in his game that could be transformed over. Billy Hatcher is a kid I wouldn't recommend underestimating. Although that Chichen Suit does disappear if he gets hit leaving him as a normal human in normal clothes in his game at least. I still wouldn't underestimate him as he could still take hits even without the chicken suit. Billy also has a lot of stuff like the circus hat that can let him roll the eggs by running on them along with a bunch of other items https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\\\_Gallery there is also this person that made a post going over a lot of the stuff Billy can do https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/s/NaGsLFZib5

I could see Billy being unnerved by Mephiles. Like Dark Raven was already kinda terrifying and this weird looking hedgehog is arguably even worse. He has to fight another being of Darkness. Luckily Billy has access to a lot of Courage and Light.

So all that foolish ranting said what do you guys think the fight would look if it was animated or something. Like what would they do, how do they fight against each other. This is mostly for silly fun.

Here are some of my ideas but i would love to hear all your ideas.

For Silver to be honest i personally liked Silver's gameplay in 06 when it wasn't buggy. Although I wish his movement was much faster. Maybe some of the 06 boxes could be in the stages. As for why he is here story wise maybe Mephiles accidentally sent him farther back into the past then intended.

For Mighty i like the idea of him still being immune to spikes thanks to his shell. He also probably has the spin dash. I have no clue what could be done with Ray but if Mighty is here then so is Ray. Considering they like to go on adventures I imagine they're here because of the mystic ruins. Also I think it would be cool if there was moments where you had to push something. It's a good way to show off Mighty's strength.

I have no clue what Creams play style should be other than her potentially having the spin dash. As for why she is here. Simple. Vanilla and Cream now live in station square. Cheese saw chaos and followed him causing the two to get involved. Maybe Cream and Cheese could save Chao eggman is secretly capturing.

For those that don't know this is Billy Hatcher. Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg was such a fun game, like really fun, SonicTeam and Sega did a good Job with that game in my opinion. Billy has a lot of the same personality traits that Sonic but Billy isn't a static character, Billy can go through character development. Infact he goes through a bit character development and character growth in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. Billy is polite and wholesome with friends but otherwise he has a lot of Sonic's personality traits. So there's a lot of story potential for the game and yes i like the idea of Billy being in the story. Plus Sonic, Tails, and knuckles are in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. And Billy Hatcher is playable in Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, sega all stars racing, and his game is referenced in Shadow The Hedgehog. Billy has a lot of abilities like egg roll, egg slame, egg animal hatching and which have a lot of versatility https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\\\_Anima . which are abilities Billy shares with his friends in his game, they are all also real strong and fast. Billy does have a unique ability, his courage boost thing can boost his states and can turn dark Raven's spheres of darkness into spheres of light, this should work on other forms of energy too. In other words the final boss shows that the more courage Billy has the more powerful he is. And he could potentially use his courage form to grab energy projectiles that some of the badniks use like he does Dark Raven's https://youtu.be/OPHxN0g1rpc?is=djLRYFQvN2jLnBjv which could be a neat gimmick for him. I like the idea of the spheres of light being slightly stronger than the eggs but they obviously can't hatch egg animals and they are risky as you could potentially get hit by the projectiles while trying to grab a projectile. his already strong enough to lift giant eggs and fast enough to keep up with Sonic characters in short bursts at least. Billy has some other moves and abilities in his game that could be transformed over. Billy Hatcher is a kid I wouldn't recommend underestimating. Although that Chichen Suit does disappear if he gets hit leaving him as a normal human in normal clothes in his game at least. I still wouldn't underestimate him as he could still take hits even without the chicken suit. Billy also has a lot of stuff like the circus hat that can let him roll the eggs by running on them along with a bunch of other items https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\_Gallery there is also this person that made a post going over a lot of the stuff Billy can do https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/s/NaGsLFZib5 as for Billy is here, his mom and him took a vacation to Station Square and Billy got to keep the chicken suit as retcon. And Billy decided he wanted to help the good guys when he found some badniks attacking. There is some fun potential game play and story.

There is a lot Tangle could do with her tail. I think we could Simply have her be visiting station square. Meeting sonic, and getting inspired to help like she did in the idw comics just much earlier in the timeline.

I'm not sure what Trip could do or why she is her. I just wanted to include her.

Also since Sonic Adventure has the characters interact with each other in each other's stories. Who would each of these characters end up interacting with? Also if you want you can come up with what stages they go through and what the stages are like. You can also come up with upgrades for the characters.

I would love to see Metal Sonic vs Metal cooler. I just think that would be an awesome fight. Although Metal Sonic gets to fuse with the big gete star that could be terrifying. Especially considering super forms and Golden forms this could be one awesome fight.

I think Tails vs kid Gohan could be a fun match. I imagine they're just training. These two have a lot in common and both are very intelligent kids. I think they would get along great. Plus they both have tails. I like the idea of Gohan keeping his tail. If ends up going great ape Tails can just use the chaos emeralds besides Tails has dealt with giants before in a fight. I could see Tails and Gohan becoming great friends and there could be some fun story potential. Oh and this is meant to be kid Gohan with piccolo's training so he has a lot of skill and some ki attacks like Masenko. Along with very good fighting style, his anger boost, the kamehameha, and other ki abilities. Also Tails and kid Gohan have similar character arcs which is interesting. Tails could use the tornado mech, all the tech from battle like the gaint hand things and his mega buster. Plus Tails is shown to have hands in sonic battle not to mention his spin dash and Tails swap. Oh and he could make a small.

I think Tails vs Billy Hatcher could also be fun. Billy has a lot of the same personality traits that Sonic but Billy isn't a static character, Billy can go through character development. Billy is polite and wholesome with friends but otherwise he has a lot of Sonic's personality traits so I could see Billy and Tails becoming great friends too. he goes through a bit character development and character growth in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg that was kinda like Tails's so there could be a story with some fun potential. Plus Sonic, Tails, and knuckles are in Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg. And Billy Hatcher is playable in Sonic Riders Zero Gravity. Billy has a lot of abilities like egg roll, egg slame, egg animal hatching and commanding all of them which Billy shares with his friends, they are all also real strong and fast. Billy does have a unique ability, his courage boost thing can boost his states and can turn dark Raven's spheres of darkness into spheres of light, this should work on other forms of energy too. In other words the final boss shows that the more courage Billy has the more powerful he is. And he could potentially use his courage form to grab energy projectiles like he does Dark Raven's. I like the idea of the balls of light being slightly stronger than the eggs but they can't hatch egg animals. There are a lot of egg animals all with their own advantages https://billyhatcher.fandom.com/wiki/Egg\_Animals . Plus he is already strong enough to lift giant eggs and fast enough to keep up with Sonic characters in short bursts at least. Billy Hatcher and The Giant Egg was fun. Billy Hatcher is a kid I wouldn't recommend underestimating. Although that Chichen Suit does disappear if he gets hit leaving him as a normal human in normal clothes in his game at least Although he also is able to handle getting thrown bacl by dark Raven even without the suit so that kid is pretty tuff. I could see Bull using his Courge form to grab the energy balls Tails's mega buster shoots just like he could against dark Raven's spheres of darkness. This is probably theme training too.

I wonder how good as a trio could Tails, kid Son Gohan, and Billy Hatcher be. So for over ranting.

Surge vs android 18 could be awesome too.

A jedi looking after to kids from species with unique connections to the force could be interesting, like the Vong kid is basically immune to the force like the rest of the species and the Loth-wolf kid still has the same unique connections to the living and comic force that the rest of his species have, they can even access the worlds between words causally. Also unpopular opinion but I think the Yuuzhan Vong, the Loth-wolves, and the world between worlds (at least in rebels) gets to much hate.

I guess this would happen after legacy so the specieses won't be nearly extinct. The jedi would probably have to be a species that is strong enough to not get hurt if the Loth-wolf pup is feeling playful. I imagine the Yuuzhan Vong kid and the Loth-wolf kid have spent enough time together that they basically brothers before even meeting the jedi. I imagine the two being basically orphaned currently.

The Yuuzhan Vong kid probably still doesn't like tech and probably does have an Amphistaff, a bunch of Razor Bugs, and at least some Lambent crystals. I think he would tame compared to most of his species but would still have that dislike for tech and being very willing to start fights. He would probably have a fit if he has to ride on a ship. Although now I'm imagining the Loth-wolf having to drag him onto a ship because the place they want to go to is to far for the young puppy to hyperspace tunnel to, assuming it's even possible for a Loth-wolf to do that while caring a Yuuzhan Vong.

The Loth-wolf kid i feel like would be interested in jedi training at least when it comes to force abilities like electric judgment, force wave and force bubble. I don't think he would give up any attachment due to how his species tend to be pack orientated. I wonder of he could use the force to hold a lightsaber similarly to darth traya considering his species are the guardians of the force. Also he may be a lightsider but he does have animalistic instincts to some degree despite being sentient or more accurately sapient. And he is capable of tearing a person's arm off just with his jaws, never mind the potential of using a light saber. He is very protective of anyone he considers a pack member. On the filp side it is unlikely he will turn to the Darkside. Still a relatively big puppy that can speak and understand what others are doing. Also I imagine someone gave him a name. Since Loth-wolves usually don't have names with rare exceptions.

I imagine both of them can be mischievous and curious. Though I imagine that the Loth-wolf is the more playful of the two. I wouldn't recommend underestimating either of them in a fight. I also imagine them being kinda adorable and knowing it so they occasionally try to use that to their advantage. Like to get food before they met the jedi. I think the two have probably mixed elements of each other's cultures together.

This is my little sequel to this post https://www.reddit.com/r/Pixar/s/fHCXqZ5FHg by u/Sebamon28 also i know meet the Robinsons isn't pixar but I thought it would be neat to include them. (Also Lewis might have made a superhero created a superhero similar to the government in incredibles. It's not like he stole the formula or anything of course.. maybe. I mean syndrome did it. Lewis could. But this is justme trying to justify me including Lewis and Wilbur).

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Violet might have scared her scarier lol.

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Also Dash, Alberto, Giulia, and Lewis definitely got their doors shredded. Maybe Miguel too after the afterlife adventure.

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To the ai, Monsters Inc, incredibles,, Luca, and Coco are of course Pixar related.

For me it's

Bouncywilds I wish these ladies returned again, them using a sling shot and banana pills that cause you to loose sone money but let you gain more by beating the Bouncywilds was neat. They should get to return.

Powerwilds which did return.

Tricky Monkey, these guys hid in fake chests and their music bullets could give you what is basically contusion. They should return too.

Sniperwilds. These are the only ones I actually dislike. These ones can stay gone in my opinion.