▲ 0 r/legal

Police refused to stop interregation despite not comprehending Miranda, then fabricated confession.

Location: OR, US

Back at the end of May, I was suddenly and without warning accused by my employer of secretly stealing money multiple times over the past 3 months. This was the first I had ever heard of any such thing, and there was no context or information given to me beyond that.

Police showed up and wanted to talk to me, again with no warning or explanation. I was already in a mentally frail state (my antipsychotics weren't working very well and I was struggling to discern reality from fiction), and this pushed me over the edge into a full-blown mental breakdown.

Essentially, I went into a total psychotic break at that moment. A psychiatrist and a therapist later concurred that the stress had triggered a dissociative break, and that I was likely already in the midst of a mixed bipolar episode before that.

My memories of that entire day are quite hazy and disjointed, but I know from what I do remember that I was absolutely not coherent. My speech was disjointed and impossible to follow and I wasn't making any logical sense. I was babbling and couldn't follow a train of thought or comprehend questions asked of me. No reasonable person could think I was capable of understanding my surroundings.

One memory I have relatively clearly is them going through the typical "you have the right to remain silent" thing, then asking if I understood. I understood conceptually, but couldn't process the meaning at the time, and I told them no. They asked a couple more times, same question, and then decided to just move on. I understood the concept, but wasn't capable of processing what it meant and what rights it gave me to remain silent right then and there.

I do remember, and this is really the only thought I could hold on to at that point, refusing to speak beyond "I don't know that" and "I have no memory of that." I gave them absolutely nothing, and the only thought I could hold on to, the one that my brain was trying to fixate on to keep a semblance of lucidity, was my refusal to speak.

Now, weeks later, I'm suddenly learning that despite my refusal to speak, they have provided an entire false confession that I supposedly gave.

According to them, I supposedly admitted under questioning and agreed with everything they accused me of, including agreeing to specifics about dates and times and motives.

This did not happen. I did not speak to them except to deny, and there is absolutely zero chance that I would ever speak to police under any circumstances, and I would certainly maintain the 5th at all times.

I have a PD, but they're unfortunately not useful. It's bad enough that I've considered dropping them and proceeding *pro se.* I know it's a terrible idea, but I can't do a worse job than them.

I've never had any criminal proceedings before, never even so much as an accusation or questioning about a crime, and now I'm being accused of felony charges that I can't defend against because I literally do not have memory of them happening, if they even did, and have been suffering more broadly from dissociative amnesia tied to type 2 bipolar.

What can I even do here? I'm terrified in general because people like me don't get fair treatment from the legal system. Approximately 70% of those falsely imprisoned have mental illnesses similar to mine, and we are overrepresented by approximately 6x compared to our share of the general population.

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u/Many-Excitement3246 — 6 days ago

ULPT: memorize parking patrol schedules to park for free all day.

This is something I learned after moving to a new city. Due to some "oversight" (read: apartment complex management behind utterly incapable of administration) the parking spot they promised me was unavaliable, so I have to street park.

I quickly learned that city parking enforcement has a fairly set schedule, and only changes when there are events at the University.

Parking becomes paid from 7 AM to 6 PM M-S. But they always make their first round around 8:00-8:30, then come back between 2:00-2:30, and finally between 4:30-5:00.

I've saved around $1800 in parking fees in 2 years by just making sure I have a valid parking pass for the times they come by if I'm home, with some buffer on either side.

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u/Many-Excitement3246 — 7 days ago

How does the law handle people who are no longer mentally ill?

I asked a question a couple weeks ago, mostly because I was studying and became curious. A lot of people responded to essentially say "that's not how that works" and "the legal system does not work that way."

I looked into it more, and I think I understand my misunderstanding, but there's still one piece that I can't make sense of. I know it's pretty obscure, but surely there's some precedent or process for it.

The person commits a crime of opportunity - say, they see a wallet left sitting or money left out and take it - but they are, at the time, not in a state to understand that what they did was wrong, such as someone who is convinced by delusion that it's not stealing and that it's not illegal.

Then, that person learns/ is made aware of what happened, and subsequently learns that they suffer from said delusions/ mental instability. They immediately take action to address and treat it - getting therapy, antipsychotics, etc. - so that they no longer experience those states where they are capable of commiting a crime due to a lack of cognizance or are unaware of their actions.

My question/ the part I struggle to understand is this: if a person was not competent at the time to understand their actions, or was acting under delusion, but has since been treated for their mental illness and no longer suffers from that condition (making reoffense all but impossible), how does the legal system parse apart a person's previous actions from their present state?

How does a court punish someone for a wrong they did while not able to understand their wrong, while not unduly punishing the person in the present who has taken the necessary steps to address the cause of the act and prevent it from happening again?

Maybe I'm totally misunderstanding, but it feels counterproductive to punish someone in the present for having done all they can do to address their previous behavior - especially in non-violent scenarios where there was no personal harm - which they did not intentionally do, and prevent it from happening again, thus further proving that they never intended to do it.

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u/Many-Excitement3246 — 14 days ago

Severe mental health failure and now I'm in huge trouble.

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I've dealt with psychiatric symptoms for years, on and off, most of which are tied to ADHD and Asperger's syndrome. But recently, things have taken a dramatic, life-altering turn and I have no idea what to do.

Earlier today, my workplace accused me of stealing hundreds of dollars on multiple occasions. They claim it was done deliberately and with intent, and they have video footage to prove it. There's no way to deny that it happened, it did, and multiple times. But I have absolutely no memory, no idea, and no answers.

I have memories of those days, and of what I did on those days. It's just that my memories are 100% completely different than reality. My brain seems to have invented entire false hours and days to filll in the gaps. I can even, given prompting, recall specific actions and sales from those days, with details. And yet, none of it is real.

Schizophrenia, bipolar, and DP/DR run in my family, and several relatives have severe cases. Like, "burning down an outbuilding because it is possessed by demons" and "driving into a river to get to Heaven" level severe.

My psychiatrist is not willing to diagnose anything, despite worsening symptoms and the fact that I'm at the perfect age for a first break, so I'm kind of being left hanging in terms of being able to explain or rationalize what's happening to me.

More than anything, I'm terrified at the idea that I can just... not be present for hours at a time, or that I can be in an altered state of mind where I'm perceiving reality completely differently from everyone else. Because what if I've already done other things that I can't recall? What if I've committed other crimes that I have no recollection of and can't defend against?

And does it make me a fundamentally bad person if I am capable of these things even if I'm not mentally present? My morality and sense of right and wrong are what define a lot of my decisions and my life. If I'm capable of completely ignoring morality when I'm not mentally present, does that mean that I, as a person, am bad, and only do the right thing because I make myself do it?

Courts aren't exactly known for treating people with mental illness well, and I'm terrified that they're going to put me in a situation that I won't survive. If they try to put me in jail, I will end up strangling myself again, I did it years ago. According to those that found me, even when unconcious, I was still locked on tightly enough to asphyixiate. Nearly crushed my trachea in the process.

I'm just so lost, and overwhelmed, and I can't even begin to fathom what to do.

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u/Many-Excitement3246 — 18 days ago

Debt collectors pursuing debt in my name that doesn't seem to exist.

Location: OR, US.

Recently, I have been bothered by debt collectors attempting to pursue a debt that is supposedly from Capital One.

This is not a company I have ever had any line of credit with, and I have already checked my credit report to confirm that I never did and no one ever took one out in my name. The debt just does not exist, at least not in my name or under my identity.

And yet, they've sent me validation of the debt, including my social security number and my other personal information. I never gave this to them, they already had it, so they must be genuine. Capital One has confirmed this debt that I supposedly owe, despite never having had an account with them and Transunion and Equifax and Experian all not reporting any account with them.

I've confirmed that these are legitimate debt collectors (underhanded and dishonest, but not outright scammers).

How do I go about dealing with legitimate debt collectors pursuing a supposedly legitimate debt that I have never had and that has never been taken out in my name? They've already validated the debt, which was my main idea to get rid of them.

Edit: someone pointed out that Capital One now owns Discover. It's not a Discover account either, I just double checked my credit report and the data that was sent to me. There's no Discover account on my credit report and all the information says Capital One specifically.

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u/Many-Excitement3246 — 25 days ago

I have had this card for over 4 years, and have had next to no issues.

However, a couple weeks ago, someone tried to use the card number online for all sorts of random purchases. I contacted the bank and got a new card issued, with a new number, and there were no more issues.

However, yesterday, I paid off the card, so it had no balance on it. Within 12 hours, someone (presumably the same person) had filled the entire account balance to the maximum.

This card has never left my possession and has never been used online, so I don't know how they got the number. But my bigger concern is the fact that they immediately maxed it out the second it was paid off, despite an entirely new account number.

How can this possibly happen? The card was brand new and I hadn't even used it yet.

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u/Many-Excitement3246 — 1 month ago
▲ 29 r/Banking

To make a long story very short, I was supposed to recieve a check to settle a personal injury claim.

However, it never arrived, so I asked the attorney handling the case what the cause of the delay was, only for him to tell me that the check had already been sent and cleared, though he couldn't tell me if that meant deposited or cashed.

This check never arrived. I was watching my mail judiciously, and that mailbox is locked. No one could have gotten in without the mail key, which is quite secure as far as keyed locks go.

I spoke to my bank, who confirmed the check was never deposited into my account, but they can't help me since the money never came through to them.

The attorney and the insurance company he represents aren't willing to help either.

Is there any way I can get this handled through the bank?

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u/Many-Excitement3246 — 1 month ago

Say someone is accused of stealing $100,000 from a business or w/e. They're caught and charged, but the money isn't found.

Then, the person is held to not be legally competent to stand trial, due to a lack of the ability to understand the alleged crime or to comprehend that what they did was illegal, say because they are schizophrenic and were suffering command hallucinations and genuine delusions that those hallucinations were reality at the time.

If they didn't know their actions were wrong, that seems to be a lack of mens rea, so how would they go about handling a case like that?

And if there's no trial and no conviction, what happens to the money? If they never prove in a court of law they it was stolen, and they can't locate it in the person's property, how do they recover it?

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u/Many-Excitement3246 — 1 month ago
▲ 1 r/help

This account was wrongly ba​nned for 7 days with no chance to ap​peal.

Now, 7 days later, the message has changed to saying this account has been permanently ba​nned, even though I never got another message.

But I can comment and post from mobile web, but not the app, where it still says account susp​ended.

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u/Many-Excitement3246 — 1 month ago