I think I randomly found the perfect video to explain the "Kpop Idols lack groove/don't feel the music" convo that happens once a month and gets polarizing, LOOK at the difference between Taeyang and Meovv here, it's crazy how well you can 100% see it. We are not making this topic up fr😆

And Meovv are not bad dancers by any means they have super difficult choreo and they are great at executing it, so this is not a nitpicky video choosing a known bad dancer like Jisoo and putting her next to Momo like sometimes people do things like that for this convo and its like no shit that loses the actual point and turns it into fanwar slop lol

I think this is an amazing example of it being an actual thing because nobody in the video is a prodigy dancer and the choreo is not difficult, but the difference in how they do the moves and feel the groove and the music is SOOO obvious

What are yalls thoughts?

u/Nice_Net_5395 — 13 days ago

What is something that despite being a snarker and the general downfall of blackpink yall can admit the girls do well still /are talented at/any reedemable qualities left? Since people think snark pages is just hate with no reason lets try to reply with some nuance snark to prove them wrong💅🏼

I have a few:

1 - Jisoo is genuinely a stunning woman, talentless as hell, cant dance can barely hit a note 0 charisma

But the moment someone calls her ugly in the name of snark that is delulu Im sorry lmao also a very natural visual for kpop standards

2 - Jennie has star quality. (Im afraid this will be controversial here but because people dont really understand what star quality is)

That does not mean that she is talented, she is a lazy performer a mid rapper, a bad singer and just seems like a nasty entitled person all around

but still she has that "it" thing that you cant teach or explain and she is the only one that has it in Blackpink, it is declining tho with the weird choices in everything but 2016-2020 Jennie is prime example of what I mean

3- Rose can sing. Obviously she is not Ariana Grande but considering how the bar for kpop vocals is on the floor she can Idol level sing

She is just so utterly boring and uninteresting that the fact that she is the only member in BP that can actually sing has served her for nothing 💀 Jennie and Lisa are 10 times less talented but 10 times more relevant

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 1 month ago

I've rarely seen Val posting like this before and he had plenty ringers, does he have any personal history with Jenna D?

Something about his latest posts seem very.. sentimental (?) If thats the right word for just being him talking about getting an amazing dwts partner, especially for someone like Val who gets amazing partners almost every season

Maybe something had been going on behind the scenes like he almost decided not to come back and retire and now getting someone like Jenna feels like he made the right choice and he is having a moment about it

Idk it gives me that vibe like his whole attitude since GMA and online seems deeper than "oh I got a super ringer" more so like he is grateful for something bigger than that

u/Nice_Net_5395 — 1 month ago

Can anyone explain why is Selena getting all this public support? Isnt she on the same boat as Briar and Jan?

People on TikTok are convinced she should be the next Pro and Im so confused, this is the same crowd that rips any Pro that did not start training ballroom in the womb to shreds every season 😭 do they... just dont know?

like Rylee (who grew up dancing Ballroom) has been criticized so much for not being ballroom enough and Selena is.. literally 0 ballroom (?) she is an amazing commercial dancer, literally what Briar is and was getting hated for, same for Jan

I dont have anything against her at all btw lovely girl I just need answers on what is going on it feels so opposite than what the usual discourse on non ballroom Pros is like we entered opposite day on this show 🤣

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 1 month ago

TOP 10 SONGS on this week's YOUTUBE MUSIC KOREA✨️ I find it so interesting to see how different the domestic vs western kpop spaces' popular songs are and this week paints such a perfect picture, like I.O.I or Rescene are such Korean GP specific hits for example

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  1. BIGBANG - BiiiG

  2. ATEEZ - BAD

  3. aespa - LEMONADE

  4. RESCENE - LOVE ATTACK

  5. CORTIS - REDRED

  6. RESCENE - Pretty Girl

  7. ILLIT - It's Me

  8. RESCENE - Deja Vu

  9. Hearts2Hearts - RUDE!

  10. I.O.I - Suddenly

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

Apparently YG has a boy group AND a girlgroup too ready to debut next year?! they were spotted at Bigbang concert in the artist section, is this rushed or would it benefit YG to debut two new groups fast and see what lands? seems they cant barely manage what they have rn 😅

Also if thats the two full groups looks like a 5 member bg and a 4 member gg, with these number of members the blackpink and bigbang comparisons are going to be crazy knowing YG and their concept recycling lol

especially for the gg, at least with baemon the larger number of girls saved them a bit from the 4 member 2ne1 - BP pipeline

I wish success on all of these kids obviously, just thinking about how trash the company has been in later years and.. yeah, lets see how it goes

u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

With today's addition still only 5 songs have debuted straight to num 1 on Melon: 2 by BTS, 1 by IU, 2 by GD/BIGBANG. What an insane achievement I imagine for this to happen the entirety of Korea has to be listening as it drops bc Melon counts ULs too 🔥

u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

BIGBANG's "BiiiG" debuted straight to the Top 1 on Melon. 2 on Genie. 1 on Bugs. DEBUTED AT NUM 1 IS CRAZY 😆 Absolute kings forever👑

20 years into their career and have been charting like this since the start too, what a ride and everything they have gone through and still having this success feels unreal

This level of longevity too is so amazing for an industry that is so obssesed with youth and moving onto the next group quickly, these men will be 40 in 2/3 years. There will never be another bigbang✨️

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago
▲ 84 r/rescene

G-Dragon (!) doing Yaho today on a BigBang promo vid 😆 Okay this is insane they have really reached the pinnacle of Korean celebs with one meme, cant imagine how crazy this is to watch for the girls and their families

u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

It is likely by the time they debut Sakura will be close to 17 or 17, semi fluent in english, with more training time than she would have gotten w the original debut date, and closer to the other members as friends. Silver lining of all that has happened to this group that I just thought about

She has a February birthday so in the time they take to find a new member (if they add one which likely because they need another vocalist), 17 for her is not far away and that is a much better age to debut than 15 or freshly 16, they would only have a minor in the group for 1 year so it would not limit concepts as much either

Samara and (especially) Emily seem to have taken her under their wing in the small interactions we get to see so that will probably help too to make the group feel more cohesive and look less as if they are babysitting

Also even if the age difference is still really big, when everyone gets older it feels less weird imo, like I have coworkers Im friends with in their 30s and Im 22 and that feels normal but I could never imagine having a friend thats 15, so if that makes sense the more they grow up the age difference will feel less and less weird and maybe a delayed debut is a net positive in the end for this group

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

It is likely by the time they debut Sakura will be close to 17 or 17, semi fluent in english, with more training time than she would have gotten w the original debut date, and closer to the other members as friends. Silver lining of all that has happened to this group that I just thought about😊

She has a February birthday so in the time they take to find a new member (if they add one which likely because they need another vocalist), 17 for her is not far away and that is a much better age to debut than 15 or freshly 16, they would only have a minor in the group for 1 year so it would not limit concepts as much either

Samara and (especially) Emily seem to have taken her under their wing in the small interactions we get to see so that will probably help too to make the group feel more cohesive and look less as if they are babysitting

Also even if the age difference is still really big, when everyone gets older it feels less weird imo, like I have coworkers Im friends with in their 30s and Im 22 and that feels normal but I could never imagine having a friend thats 15, so if that makes sense the more they grow up the age difference will feel less and less weird and maybe a delayed debut is a net positive in the end for this group

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

This BigBang 20th anniversary teaser pic WOW🔥 the BP fiasco looks even worse now omg😭when the other iconic YG group is going to go full out it seems

u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

Anyone knows the story of how Wonyoung and Yujin ended up at Starship? Did they audition for any of the big 4 agencies too or not? They have such "perfect Idol" vibes I have always been surprised they did not get picked up by SM or HYBE or somewhere huge

Obviously it all ended up working out for them and they are hugely succesful in IVE so this is not a "complaining" post more so just surprised they were not scouted or chose to audition for the big agencies if they didnt do it

Yujin especially I feel like she could have made it anywhere in the big 4, she can even rock the YG concept in a performance heavy group she is a super versatile Idol, Wony because of her perfect Idol image and visual could have seen her in SM in another universe, interesting to think of the what ifs

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

Anyone else is genuinely surprised how long Rebecca and Carlos have lasted and doesnt seem its stopping any time soon? I was so sure at first it was a rebound thing and Carlos would move on to the next super hot model in a month lol a lot of people thought the same I remember

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Its interesting to think about how it all unfolded because in my opinion at first on his end it was likely a casual hook up thing of oh I found a hot model to pass the time with nothing serious will move on soon to the next one in line now Im single after a super long relationship

Because considering his background I highly doubt he started seeing Rebecca thinking of her being a serious partner he would have around his family etc, but then he actually did fall for her and thats how we got the public part of the relationship like 1 year in there was a big change, even posting her online which he never did with Isa

Obviously this is all speculation just ranting but I find it quite fascinating, Im spanish and understand the kind of circles Carlos grew up in, its basically such high class only below actual royalty lol like very very high class, they only marry each other pretty much and even to just date publicly its 99% of the time with people of their same background

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

Idk why Steph is so obssesed w being Pro when she is the PERFECT commercial dancer w her skill & look,would be so booked

Not saying this in a shady way at all obviously she can choose her own path and whatever she wants to pursue most she is also a great ballroom dancer

Just everytime I see her tiktok vids like this one I have this thought, she is obviously super talented but also has a perfect crosstrained skillset + her look + stage presence while dancing for booking commercial work, music videos, touring with artists, etc

Anyone else feels this way too?

u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

New official BIGBANG single dropping August 19th, predicting Melon TOP 1 instantly and a lot of PAKs incoming no matter if the song is entirely made of fart sounds ngl 🤣😭 (Joking Im sure the song will be good)

Just predicting that is going to fully smash the Korean charts for months which very duh of me, although Im curious if it will be bigger than Home Sweet Home domestically that one was huge last year

but it was technically a GD song ft Taeyang and Daesung this is their first release under the BIGBANG name in a while that might give it an even bigger push with YG backing too 🤔

Will have to wait and see.. the teaser pics look cool but still a bit weird to see Bigbang with 3 members ngl TOP was always my fav 😔

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

Jojo is such a good dancer I still cant believe she was allowed to compete as a contestant lol like pls

I know her silly antics make people forget how talented she is but this video really reminded me like there is barely a difference here between her and Ezra Hailey Rylee & Kamri when they are dancing hip hop/commercial

Sure she was not trained in ballroom but still that is a crazy level of dance training to have as a contestant, not even complaining I enjoyed her on the show and I really loved the female pairing with Jenna that was beautiful to see as a queer girly myself, just an honest thought on her overqualification to be a contestant 😆

u/Nice_Net_5395 — 2 months ago

Nina reminded me of Maks and early years Val, bc she is talented and charismatic she behaves like that w no consequences

idk how to explain it well like she did not do anything that crazy Chmerkovskiy style (yet lol) but just that archetype of because you are talented, and attractive (important for this point!) and have a lot of charisma you havent been told NO much if at all in your life and you behave as such, that is very CBro coded

She can steamroll over people because she is super assertive and speaks her mind and she sounds so sure of herself, Benji was literally stuttering in the glimpses we saw when trying to speak up Ive seen Maks have this effect on people so much as an OG watcher lol they just freeze

these type of dancers just give you the impression in the moment that your opinion doesnt really matter "well they seem so sure they must be right" even more if they have accolades, which Nina has more than Benji in Ballroom so that probably helped to make him feel small too

Again I dont think she did anything crazy she was not yelling or being super rude but just the type of personality I clocked it that it can 100% lead to all that if she gets heated or someone actually fights back unlike Benji

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u/Nice_Net_5395 — 3 months ago