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What do you think they mean with “horny hallucination”? Also cute the fact she's "first in Adam's heart"

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 2 months ago
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Great summary of everything that doesn’t work about the show’s “moral question” surrounding the Exterminations.

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 2 months ago
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It honestly seems to me the only logical explanation for why certain notorious criminals are nowhere to be seen in Hell, even though it’s canon that they exist

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 2 months ago
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Hot take: Adam died like an absolute GOAT, taken out by another GOAT instead of some fraud like Charlie, mirroring Caesar's death, flipping the Morningstars one last middle finger instead of begging for mercy, and spending his final moments looking at a gorgeous woman who genuinely loved him

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 2 months ago
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The Ultimate Adam Character Analysis

TW mentions of SA and body dysmorphia (also to be so deadass this is kinda more of an interpretation rather than based on PURE canon but I tried to base all my thoughts on actual evidence rather than speculation).

I think Charlie's story in the beginning of S1E1 is probably a watered down version of the actual story she was told as a child, and she probably doesn't even realize that. I'm sure her parents told her that story to make their past actions less questionable and probably didn't tell her the whole truth, but something's definitely not right with the story she tells us, I don't think it adds up.
Adam and Lilith probably didn't even understand what they were doing back then. They were literally just created and put on Earth, they probably had the mentalities of literal children who didn't know any better, yet were given and expected to complete adult responsibilities. Even if Adam was controlling, I think it's very likely their relationship had mutual abuse, Lilith was probably just as bad to him if not worse. If we go off what Judaism says she did, she is just as terrible as Adam and even arguably WAY worse.

In the show, we see Adam is very reluctant to question Heaven. Like in the court, he frequently looks to Sera for reassurance and bases his primary beliefs off the rules he was taught. I imagine it was the same way back in Eden. Adam was a rule follower. Whereas in how Lilith is described, she seemed much more free spirited. It'd make sense to me if Adam wasn't necessarily trying to be controlling, but was instead wanting her to stick to the rigid expectations the angels had for them. Lilith was more of a free thinker than he was and was able to see outside of Heaven's expectations for them. But that doesn't mean she wasn't just as inexperienced and naive. She might've taken Adam's concern about complying with the rules as him being controlling, or maybe Lucifer made her believe that. I mean come on y'all, he was WAY older than the humans and an angel, someone they were taught to trust and go to for guidance. That mf was NOT completely innocent.

The Medieval Myth (Midrash Abkir & The Zohar) details that Lilith raped him. According to the 10th century text Midrash Abkir and later Kabbalistic writings like the Zohar, Adam separated from Eve for 130 years out of grief and fasting after Cain killed Abel. During this time, Adam slept alone. Lilith (sometimes referred to in this specific passage by the name Pizna) saw Adam's beauty, desired him, and took him by force and/or seduced him against his will while he was sleeping. She used his sperm to fertilize herself and give birth to a massive plague of djinns, demons, and harmful spirits like Succubi and Incubi. I HIGHLYYYY doubt Viv will make that canon, but I personally do like it as a headcanon because SA trauma can make a person act the way Adam does, and it explains a lot of his behavior.

Honestly he and Eve were probably traumatized. I'm a bit conflicted on if he actually sinned with Eve and ate the apple or not because on one hand, we don't see Eve so it could be inferred that she's in Hell for the sin, but on the other hand she could also be in Heaven and we just haven't seen her yet, (because it's clear her and Adam aren't together anymore and probably aren't on good terms so would avoid each other if she IS in Heaven) or maybe she's not in either, who knows?

Basically they knew no wrong, no sin before the apple, things were much less complicated. But after eating it it's like their eyes were opened to everything wrong with their world, everything wrong with their views, with themselves and with their relationship. And learning all of that so suddenly must've been fucking terrifying and completely overwhelming. Essentially the worldview the angels had given them (which was never questioned) was completely shattered. I think they did truly love each other at one point, but after the knowledge of each other's flaws (and Adam probably felt betrayed that she would listen to Lucifer) their relationship deteriorated and went into shambles. The only reason they stayed together and had their children was for the sake of the purpose heaven made them for; they probably had no free will regarding that or at least felt like they had no free will. Plus basically losing both his children (Cain and Abel) in the violent and sudden way he did, I can imagine leaves a guy pretty emotionally scarred. After having both my wives betray me in some sort of way like that, I'd give up on second chances too so I don't blame him for hating the idea of redemption.

Though I also think he does Extermination out of spite. In S1E6 when Sera talks to him and Lute privately she says "I never would've agreed to YOUR yearly activities", I think from that it can be inferred that the entire concept of Exterminations was originally introduced by Adam when they were discussing Hell's population control, it was HIS idea. I think he's probably still bitter and hurt over what Lilith and Lucifer did to him, and Extermination was an outlet for him to take his anger out on their people, because to him that was a way to get back at them for hurting him, and probably pretty much the only way. I've also seen someone else point this out, but he may feel an extreme guilt that he and Eve doomed all their children. Exterminations may be a humane way he sees as putting Sinners out of their misery. I mean, his soldiers are literally called Exorcists (be definition, an Exorcist is a person who drives away evil spirits from good). Now was he right? Obviously not. But it's understandable why he thought that way.

Point is, the poor guy is TRAUMATIZED. He had one wife leave him, Lucifer (who he probably at first considered his friend and trusted him because he was an angel) stole his wife so that was salt in the wound, his second wife betrayed him and went against everything they were taught to believe, was pretty much pressured and forced to stay in a relationship with Eve and have children with her, LOST his first two children in a brutal way and yeah probably had to work his ass off to survive on Earth (I have a headcanon he loves eating because he wasn't able to value and cherish food on Earth when he was alive. You hunt and either had dinner for that night or didn't. They also had nothing to keep their food fresh so they couldn't save it before it got rotten. That's why he's chubby now because he's able to properly enjoy food so he does it a LOT). They definitely didn't give him enough credit because I know damn well he went THROUGH it, no wonder he's such a prick.

I don't think Heaven knew how to handle the problems Adam and his wives had. They're divine beings and probably didn't even have a full understanding of how fragile the human mind is compared to them. Adam seems very reliant on Heaven and Sera's approval because it's all he's ever known, he has no one else because everyone else hurt him. I mean just look at the way he speaks to Sera; he doesn't speak to anyone else like that, not even Lute. I think she's almost like a mother to him. He doesn't act that way around her because he's actually SCARED she's going to punish him, but for me it was the guilty little "sorry" he gave her after she told him it was uncalled for to cuss at Charlie and Vaggi at the end of the meeting. She's probably the main one who was his authority figure all his life, yeah he doesn't exactly hide his disrespectful behavior from her but he's NEVER disrespectful TO her; he looks up to her. You can absolutely tell when he turns to her for reassurance about what got him into Heaven, and she can't even provide definite affirmation for him. It makes me so sad all his life he never had the guidance figures he needed, and then was fully blamed for being enabled by Heaven.

Heaven definitely played a huge part in who he became because they were the ones who were supposed to influence, guide, and teach him; it's clear they didn't do much or a good job in helping Adam process his trauma judging by the way he acts. Adam wasn't a great person yes, but Heaven is largely responsible for that. They never corrected his behavior and let him believe being a bad person was ok for him.

His smile to Lute for sticking with him to the end was so sad, I have a love hate relationship with Lute but oh my gosh, her screams broke my heart... Since when Adam goes to confront Vaggi in the room she and Charlie were staying at in Heaven, he says "it's why I named you". I think this can infer that he basically raised his Exorcists and taught them what they know so they're all kinda like daughters/little sisters to him which I think is the cutest freaking concept ever (also him naming Lute short for Lieutenant is such an Adam thing to do). Unfortunately the show kinda ruined this when showing Adam abusing his Exorcists 💀 Adam fans can't have shit istg

But fear not, there is hope for us yet! Something interesting I noticed is that Adam names each and every one of his soldiers (even though there's most definitely hundreds of them at the very least). He could've just numbered them and called it a day, but he took the time to give them their own individuality. Are the names he gave them stupid? Yes, but I think it shows he cared about them to some extent. We never actually see his initial reaction to Lute mutilating Vaggi, we just see him take her halo and leave. I like to imagine Adam DID care for Vaggi and hated what Lute did to her. But he knows Lute bases all her actions off what she thinks he would do or want. Punishing Lute would have to involve him addressing his own mistakes and behavior, and he wasn't gonna do that. So instead, he just sucked it up, decided "what's done is done", and left with Lute. I also think him taking Vaggi's halo is important. Lute did the same thing when he died— perhaps he was doing something similar, a way to remember one of his proudest soldiers by.

It's been my own headcanon for awhile that Adam has body dysmorphia, he literally covers himself head to toe and never takes anything off willingly. Not even his helmet. We see him wear it all the time, even when he's off duty and Lute's not wearing hers. Hell even in the damn pride merch he's wearing a hat on top of his helmet.
I believe this is because he's insecure about his face. I mean come on guys, we've all seen it. Adam is beautiful and I love him to death, but let's not pretend he doesn't look like the most normal everyday dude you've ever seen. Expectations of him were probably high, he'd be expected to look ethereal as the very first human, and I wouldn't be surprised if he constantly had to deal with people saying crap like "you look different than how I imagined you". Eventually that would make him start feeling like shit about his face.

I think he's also really insecure about his body because of how the Bible states Adam and Eve were ashamed of their naked bodies after sinning which breaks my heart for him :( plus the fact he got so upset when Lucifer taunted him saying "you've really let yourself go" and "your first wife didn't seem to hate what I had to offer, or the second" says a lot. Fuck you for that Lucifer, you're just as shit as Adam yet act morally superior.

Only when his helmet is forcibly shattered do we see his real face and real demeanor: just raw anger and desperation to be important. He screams that everyone should be worshipping him because he's the first man, but... That's it. Because he hasn't let there be that much more to him. He's based all his worth on his importance as the first human, so when he sees no one is taking him seriously in the finale despite that, it sends him into a crisis. To me, it didn't just look like anger; he seemed freaked out and desperate to be seen as he feels he should always be seen. Because when no one is impressed simply by who he is, he has to come to terms with the fact he's only been seen and treated as special because of who he is, nothing more. And that thought is terrifying for someone like Adam.

I once heard someone describe him as an angelic demon, which is such an interesting way to describe him. He shows no humanity in both his mindset AND his physical appearance and that makes me even more sad because I also feel like that's not who he really is. I think he probably used to be really sweet and gentle when he was first created (because why wouldn't he be? It doesn't make sense he'd be genuinely controlling and malicious from the very beginning because it was literally before evil existed), years of pent up trauma and pressure of high expectations from literal Angels can definitely cause a person to act the way Adam does. That smile he gave Lute at the end shows there's a lot more to his character than what we see, and he probably is that sweet and gentle person he used to be with Lute (when they're in private, it makes sense he'd treat her like pretty much everyone else when they're in public because he doesn't want anyone to see that side of him, but it's clear he still cares a good deal about her), that sweet boy he used to be is still in there somewhere, and he's shown to be a bit more calm and collected when Lute is with him, like how she kept him from causing a scene when they saw Charlie and Vaggi in Heaven vs how he acted when fighting Alastor and Lucifer, he was out of control with anger and recklessness, and Lute wasn't there to calm him down or reassure him. I'd also like to point out that when Lucifer taunts Adam about Lilith and Eve, Adam never insults them to get one over on Lucifer. He never says "you deserved each other", or "she was ugly anyway", he just simply gets angrier. I just thought that was really interesting.

I'm really upset how Adam is villainized as a one dimensional pure evil guy because if you really take the time to think about it, he's not the absolute terrible person he's made out to be. No matter how much Viv tries to make him irredeemable, her narrative already proves Adam was also a victim of Heaven's corrupt system. He suffered so much and I'm honestly so upset that he might be permanently gone because now he'll never get the happy ending I think he warrants. He'll never get the peace he clearly so desperately needed despite all the suffering, betrayals, emotional conflict and self hatred (I promise y'all, people like Adam almost ALWAYS hate themselves the most) he faced and it breaks my heart because he deserved so much better than that.

It really makes you think about that last smile he gave Lute.... What must've been running through his head in those last few moments after years and years and years of trauma and witnessing heaven, Hell, and Earth's history. Peace? Relief? Acceptance? I think he finally felt seen. Like he was a real person to at least someone. He didn't have any close authentic relationships except Lute (which doesn't make a lot of sense but I digress), everyone else either left him, betrayed him, or ignored him, but she stuck with him to the end. He just wanted what everyone wants, to be seen and worthy of love. But if he's really gone for good that means he'll never get it.

I think he probably was also relieved. That this was the best way for him to go out: in a bloody battle in all his glory, where he'd never have to admit he was wrong or address his toxicity and insecurity. That smile was for Lute, but there was so much more to it than that. He kept up the arrogant facade right till the end, because no one gave him the chance to believe he didn't need it.

I'm probably looking WAYYYY too deep into his character but oh my gosh I wanna cry for him sometimes. Uhh anyways I think Adam is a really cool character, I like him in a very normal and casual way, and I REALLY hope Viv is trolling us and will bring him back as a sinner!!

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Adam headcanons

・He's bisexual and demiromantic, he was in denial about it for a good while (the new merch drop ruined this but wtv).

・He has ADHD — the Angels called it "a mistake in his programming"

・He's ambidextrous! I say this because we see him play guitar with his left hand in S1E1, but in S1E6 he uses his right hand to write his reasons for getting into Heaven.

・He's hypersexual because of Heaven basically "programming" him to have an abnormally high sex drive. They did this to ensure he would be able to reproduce as much as needed to fill the Earth with humans, and it's something he struggles with every day (possibly the same thing could've been done to Eve and Lilith). Also just to be clear, I'm NOT romanticizing hypersexuality. It's not a silly quirk, it's something he would genuinely struggle with.

・I think he has an extreme fear of apples and snakes/serpents after the forbidden fruit incident (Ophidiophobia and malusdomesticaphobia).

・He has an extreme fear of abandonment that stems from his last two wives (Lilith and Eve) leaving him, as well as losing his kids; he's very clingy and has attachment issues but also pushes people away, similar to Blitzø.

・He slept around a lot with so many women so he could feel like he was still worth something, but also to not get too attached to anyone and catch feelings.

・he has body dysmorphia because of how Adam and Eve were ashamed of their naked bodies after eating the fruit (also because he has gained weight since then) which is why he keeps himself covered from head to toe, LITERALLY.

・He enjoys eating because when he was on Earth he had to hunt all his food and it was very scarce, not to mention he was only permitted to eat certain foods and he had nowhere to store leftovers and keep them fresh, so what he got was what he got. That's why he enjoys eating so much and also why he's gained weight.

・His favorite food is barbecued ribs and he enjoys eating them to fill the void left when he lost his rib to create Eve.

・The only thing he really likes about his body is his wings, he takes great pride in them and his status as an angel in general.

・He has a mother/son relationship with Sera and is secretly a mama's boy.

・He actually used to be the sweetest guy ever but he acts like a jerk now to protect himself from being hurt again.

・He really did love Eve at one point, but after she sinned their relationship slowly deteriorated (if you've seen Moral Orel, I very much imagine his relationship with Eve to be similar to Clay's and Bloberta's).

・He made all of his soldiers' uniforms himself. Every. Single. One.

・He's secretly super insecure and feels unworthy of love (the amount of nights he cried himself to sleep is unbearable, hence the eye bags he has) He used to best friends with Lucifer and now Lucifer makes him insecure because he'll never be a "real Angel" like he was.

・The eye bags are also caused by insomnia and somniphobia (fear of sleeping). Because he was raped in his sleep by Lilith, he hasn't had a peaceful night's sleep since. He's too scared and paranoid.

・His official diagnoses (I major in psychology and study it a lot in my free time so I promise I'm not completely clueless but obviously take these with a massive grain of salt) are ADHD, C-PTSD, NPD, BPD, hypersexuality, body dysmorphia, and atypical bulimia.

・His full name: Adam Zachary Michael Vencenzo Alfonso Giovanni Bartholomew Dinnopoly James Brightman the First (no evidence whatsoever he has last names or anything, I literally just thought it'd be funny to give him a long ass name as the first human. Like imagine Sera calling his full name when he's in big trouble XD)

u/FNAF_Professor — 2 months ago
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Adam haters argue that he "deserved to die" simply because he was the villain and therefore evil, yet they also insist the exterminations were wrong because sinners deserve a chance of redemption. That's a pretty obvious moral and logical contradiction

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 2 months ago

Reminder that the other sub is so cooked that saying ‘Adam was right’ — not even ‘the exterminations were good’ — is considered genocide apologism by the mods.

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 2 months ago

Mark my words, in S3 we'll find out that this woman isn't Lilith, but Eve pretending to be her to destroy the Morningstar family

I’m posting this now as evidence, so when the truth comes out, nobody can say I didn’t call it. I’ll just link this back to everyone who doubted me.

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 3 months ago
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Brainstorming: Abel's eye color can be obtained by mixing his father's golden yellow/amber with a light reddish shade. So, based on this nerdy calculation, I reached the conclusion that Eva could have had reddish eyes when she conceived Abel

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 3 months ago

Unpopular opinion: Adam should only care romantically about Lute, since she’s the only one who stayed truly loyal to him until the end.

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I know a lot of people like to imagine he’s romantically involved with his second wife, but they forget this is a show written by Viv, who has a massive hate-boner for him ans who's going to do everything possible to humiliate him even more. Just assume Eve probably cheated on him with a guy he hates, and don’t romanticize their relationship too much

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u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 3 months ago
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If Adam had just dealt with Charlie like he wanted to in 'Welcome to Heaven' before Lute stopped him, what could Lucifer have realistically done besides coping and seething in Hell?

Looks like Adam had the right intuition after all

u/Crybbu — 3 months ago
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I wonder how many more times they gotta humiliate Fraudstor on screen before his glazers finally get it through their thick skulls that he’s just a nothing burger with undeserved screentime

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 3 months ago
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Let's be real, the actual reason Lute destroyed all of Adam’s guitars and records is because she felt he loved them more than her

u/Opposite-Virus1958 — 3 months ago