Before the last patch, there was a big effort to mr. Fantastic buff so I'd like to throw in a demonstration of how much Mr. Fantastic needs to be a better damage dealer than the Vangaurds.

Enough time has passed so I believe that you can assess how much more durable the 700hp Hulk and the 600hp Hood is/is not than the current Mr. Fantastic and goes to assess whether he deserves to be in this position.

I was attacked on three levels.

1. Easy: >!Thing base hp + shift (I'm not sure if you can have bonus hp from secondary and bonus hp from shift at the same time.)!<

2. Medium: >!Thor base hp + sedondary + 3 thor force + Angela upgraded team up.!<

3. Hard: >!Mr. Fantastic base hp + passive + 2 E + Thing team up. This one is tricky.!<

I feel like if mr. Fantastic was a 400hp vangaurd instead of getting the last buff extra 5 damage to the primary so today his team ups are better.

I wouldn't even be surprised if Thing base team up is the same as the enchanted one and enchanted one that doesn't have a cooldown on ability and instead is constant active like Rogue has an active gambit team up and Wolverine has an active Cyclop team up.

And all it would take to rocket team up is to raise mr. Fantastic hp to 450 when selected just like Dr. Strange shield gains hp when the IW team up is active. Rocket team up is good anyway primarily to become a bigger damage sponge.

Secondary => Double primary remains the most effective way to fight back. It should be added that the primary attack itself also gets a bigger range from 4m to 6m while the secondary is changed from 8m to 9.5m.

The difference isn't that big, but Thing secondary is %-based so the smaller the enemy, the more effective the primary is.

Secondary => Primary I didn't even shoot because it is still less efficient than Secondary => double primary and loses range advantage.

So Tankpool still has the potential to be a better poke damage dealer than Peni, but it's a good idea not to ignore the 50% attack speed boost from the new team-up.

It's less of an effort to disrupt that myth of being a Mr. Fantastic ranked in the right class.

The interesting thing is that Terror Cape (Cloak E), which has 2 charges deals 55 damage and gives enemy 28% vunlerability. That is, in addition to having a larger range, it has more damage hidden among abilities.

A more appropriate comparison would be cyclop, whose secondary can hit more enemies and has "auto-aim," but A demonstration of the difference with strategist seemed more appropriate.

Passive works by using shift to switch between 2 base forms, each of which has 350 base hp plus 50 bonus hp. This effectively makes it a 700hp hero with 100 bonus hp. The problem comes when one of the forms dies because you lose half your kit.

After revival, he should start with full bonus hp.

Ultimate is not strong, but by the time it is active are both non-demon forms unused => both are being healed.

At the same time, Ultimate Makes Hood a temporarily potent melee hero who's hard to ignore.

Both basic primary attacks are more debuff oriented.

The first 2 attacks in human form when hit by the heads put together 195 damages, which makes two taps impossible, but does not prevent it from subsequently having 230dps agaisnt head. (Peni has 150dpd against head and upgradet tankpool has 195 + poop, 273 + poop with attackspeed)

Phoenix is definitely more consistent and can fly, but I can probably see why some of the better players are currently trying DPS Luna.

To explain DPS Luna Snow is a strategy where you use snowflake on yourself to get a 10% damage boost making doulbe headshot deals more than 300 damage.

Phoenix has considerable advantages in having colateral damage, it can easily gain the upper hand, but it seems to me that strategist with the most healing oriented ultimate should not have comparable damage to Phoenix.

Thus, despite the mediocre heaing, renathal and repeated profit divine shield from Starlight Groove, the game often ends too soon even though I have the upper hand on the board.

It's not that I don't have boardclears, taunt minons, or weak lategame. It's purely that the deck is pretty good at winning board based decks and has a lot of strong lategame.

The combinations are:

- Devil Dino: primary => F, then (primary => secondary => repeat)

- Thing: secondary => double primary => repeat (with F in between)

As far as HP bonuses go, Devil Dino is definitely better because it generates a large amount extremely quickly, but Thing is more consistent.

It should be noted that it’s easier to dodge Dino’s attacks, and I’m ignoring both shifts. That said, the Thing shift deals much more damage, but for both Vanguards, this is a crucial ability with a 10-second cooldown.

It's also worth noting that in 1v1 matches, Thing has fewer HP and therefore gains more bonus HP against Devil Dino.

Either way, it’s clear that Devil Dino is on a very similar level to Thing, and the rest can be evaluated as follows:

- Kidnap is simpler than with Angel, but weaker and more predictable due to the bleed condition

- Tankiness on par with Groot, but more reliant on healing from allies. (Groot has selfheal.)

- Ultimate is weaker Monster hulk (bonus hp instaed of selfheal and cooldown reduction + colateral damage instead of +-100% damage boost and ability reset) but harder to counter with %-based damage and without transfrormation.

- Weaker slow as Venom secondary but harder to counter. (Shield slows enemies around him.)

- Good shield.

This isn't specifically about the "Devil Dino is OP" post, but rather an example of how the game combines many different mechanics into one, despite its relatively simple gameplay.

It's a little bit of a demonstration of how easy Mr. Fantastic to rank among the Vanguards.

The basic premise, then, is that the 150 bonus hp it can get thanks to E I calculate as part of his base healtbhar.

Minor puns on the biggest netural healthbar:

- I also count passive such as Bruce Banner and the conditional part of healing factor at Tankpool, which he will use during the fight not outside of it. I'm not sure they'll cure 100 or 200hp.

- Healing and bonus generation during fight is ignored. It's already too much in one post but it's easy to say that his selfheal from passive and bonus genration from E would put him somewhere in the middle.