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New here, just now digging into FM's music, and wanted to share a funny anecdote for those who might be interested :D

My mom was a makeup artist in the 70s, and in 1975 (I think), Stevie hired my mom to do her makeup for a show in our city. My mom had no idea who Fleetwood Mac was, though it was right during the moment they were starting to take off.

So, my mom did Stevie's makeup, apparently Stevie was a total sweetheart, and she gave my mom backstage passes for the whole night and my mom was able to enjoy the show from just off stage. After the show, the band invited her to party with them, and also gave her the address of their summer home in Florida - she declined partying with them because she was afraid they were going to do drugs (she wasn't wrong, was she! 😅️), and she tossed the address in the trash because she didn't see any reason she'd go to Florida to hang out with these people she'd just met for a job 🫣️

Next Monday she went to work and told her colleagues about her weekend... her colleagues lost their absolute shit, considering Fleetwood Mac was becoming huge, and my mom had had absolutely zero idea who they were 💀️

But my mom always held Stevie in the highest regard, always speaking so fondly of her and saying what a sweet, gentle soul she was, even as she was becoming an international celebrity.

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Edit: my god, this is a hostile sub... I'm brand new, just started listening to this band yesterday, and I made two posts... this one got half the comments implying or even telling me the story my mom told me is a lie (or feeling like they're accusing ME of lying... and honestly, who in the world makes up such a strange story for the sake of like 50 upvotes??? Christ...), and my other one where I just asked about the band since I don't know much of anything about them got so majorly downvoted and almost all the comments were so aggressive (simply because I don't know anything about this band?) that I ended up just deleting it...

Honestly, these people here putting into my head that a beloved story from my dead mother was a lie has been most painful... I only wanted to share a cute story with FM fans because I thought you might enjoy it... but the result was actually kind of painful...

What a nasty "welcome" to a fan base... y'all sure know how to keep new fans away! 🥲️

Was quite a fan back in the day, and owned all of their albums on CD from Gordon through All in Good Time.

When Steven left, I briefly blamed him, and continued trying to follow BNL without him. In the end, I haven't found myself able to really enjoy the band's music post-Steven, minus a couple songs, so I often forget about them.

It's been a few years since I last listened to them, but today I saw an Eminem interview from 2010 where he talked about rhyming "orange" and mentioned "4-inch" and "door hinge" and I was like, holy shit, either Em influenced BNL or BNL influenced Em, and either way that's hilarious and awesome :D Anyway, it reminded me of BNL and so...

...today I'm listening through as much of their discography as I'll manage - I'm currently starting up Stunt, and I've got a few thoughts collecting:

1. These guys were always so very, very talented. Tyler's drumming always managed to perfectly fit any vibe, Jim is a very creative bassist who really plays with the music, and Ed and Steven complemented each other so very much vocally - that said, Jim wasn't the best singer, and Ed may be more blessed with creativity than with actual musical talent, but that's totally ok ;)

2. I hated Jim's songs when I was a teen, I guess because I hated his voice, but I'm finding myself really liking them today. He had a very, very interesting writing style, and while I would skip these tracks back then, now I wish we had more! I guess they stopped having him write songs because they wanted commercial success and Jim's songs were never going to achieve that, but it's honestly kind of a pity imo!

3. Almost all of my favourite songs are turning out to be Steven songs...? I think - maybe I'm wrong. But it's Wrap Your Arms Around Me, What a Good Boy, Box Set, and The Flag from Gordon; You Will be Waiting, Am I the Only One? (I think this is the only Ed one?), and The Wrong Man was Convicted from Drive; This is Where it Ends, When I Fall (oh, another Ed one!), I Live With it Every Day, and Break Your Heart from Pirate Ship...

4. I am going to try to listen through all their albums, but in the past I've never been able to listen all the way through anything after All in Good Time... and I'm wondering if this is connected to point 3... but I really wonder, because I like almost all of their songs on all the albums they were all together with Steven - no real skips I think!

5. I cannot wait for Maroon, my favourite BNL album <3 <3 <3

In 2020, I bought a rather cheap desk/office chair because I had to work remotely due to the pandemic and thought it would be temporary. Now I work almost entirely remotely, and I needed a more comfortable chair due to the amount of time I spend sitting there and also age.

So I decided it was time to replace my 6-year-old chair, which I will give away if not sell on the second-hand market.

I first looked at the selections from a few stores online and decided which ones I would visit in person to check out and try some chairs.

The first store was a flop and I didn't find what I wanted.

At the second store, I did. I spent some time sitting in it, took notes about it, etc.

I went home and searched local buy/sell sites for such chairs until I found what I was looking for.

And I got the kind of chair I needed second-hand from someone who didn't need it anymore.

No new waste created, a chair saved from being wasted, and cost half what it would've new as a bonus.

What anticonsumption tips have you come up with on your journey?

Hellooooo again! You may remember me from the last few months - discovered Tori's music in the spring and have been making my way through her discography...

I'll soon be making an update post about the 8 albums I've listened to so far and how they "rank" for me, but right now I want to discuss one album in particular: American Doll Posse!

This album hit me hard the very moment I put it on! It is ahhhhh soooo good!!! I'm almost as obsessed with it right now as I was with In Times of Dragons (my first Tori listen)!

This album rocks so hard!!! I didn't know she made music like this!!! The first few songs, with Big Wheel, Bouncing off Clouds, and Teenage Hustling, just make me moooooove! They rock but they also groove! Even the pretty ballad, Digital Ghost, still manages to rock... and You Can Bring your Dog rocks out in the sexiest of those bluesy ways!

I'm also really, really into the archetypes - I love that she went so far as to make 5 separate characters, and then credit them in the liners! 😂 I do honestly find the characters believable via their songs - Pip is my favourite, though - well, I mean her songs rock omg. Body and Soul is fucking uuuuggghhhh!!!! <3 She did a really good job of creating these characters and making the songs really sound like they're from different characters. I mean, Pip is the most recognizable for me, but I also find Santa and Clyde very unique in their song styles. Maybe my only complaint is that all these characters are obviously parts of - or versions of - Tori, so it's a bit strange that one of the characters is Tori. That's the one character that doesn't entirely work for me, as she doesn't really feel like she has a unique, identifiable character in the group. But this is a weakness I can live with ;)

One other interesting thing to mention is that, while the album has 23 songs, even on the first listen, I was clearly still listening all the way to the end because "Posse Bonus" jumped out at me and got stuck in my head already after one listen :D The album is strong from start to end, so it has every reason to be as long as it is!

Other highlights on the album include ALL of the first 6 songs, Body and Soul, Secret Spell, Programmable Soda, Code Red, Roosterspur Bridge, and Velvet Revolution... but Smokey Joe fucking blows my mind.

I will need more listens to be sure, but right now I feel like this might end up being my second favourite after Dragons - and that's where my curiosity lies! This album seems to be often mentioned in the sub as very much not a favourite or even kind of disliked, and I'm curious to hear why! Is it perhaps that Tori fans are generally not fans of rock music and were put off by a rock album coming out after 8 others? Like when Eminem put out a rock/pop album that was actually quite good if you're into that kind of music, but the hip-hop driven fan base hated it? Do fans miss her piano being at the forefront? I mean, I could honestly see that - I don't really notice the piano much on this album, but I'm soooo into what she's doing vocally with all these characters... and she's chosen styles of rock (mostly rock n roll) that still makes space for plenty of piano prominence! Or otherwise, what is it? I have no other guesses! 😂

This is easily her sexiest album I've listened to so far, imo. Danceable, groovy, fucking stunning!

Edit: omgggg soooo many serious comments in reply to this shitpost... what is up with this sub ❗ ❗

(Reminder of the disclaimer: not a serious post)

So, I'm re-watching the American sitcom, "Parks and Recreation", and for anyone familiar, there's a scene with Ann and April in the car for a road trip, and Ann says she made a CD mix for the road trip, and says "Hope you like Tori Amos!"

April says "great!", grabs the CD, and tosses it out the window.

My issue here is that the writers clearly had never listened to Tori, because:

1. there's no way in hell Ann is a Tori Amos fan - Ann is definitely into Pink and maybe like Katy Perry. Tori is too "weird" for Ann for sure. Ann likes safe, simple, comfortable pop music - if Ann was written now, she'd be a huge Imagine Dragons and Adele fan. Tori would scare the shit out of her.
2. April would fucking love Tori omg even if not the music itself, the attitude, vibe, and lyrics lol I see April tossing herself about her and Andy's house to iiieee and Blood Roses and Caught a Lite Sneeze. Girl, I always wanted to know an April in real life and bond with her over weird-ass music - introducing her to Tori would be a ride.

I think the writers confused Tori and Sheryl Crow 😂

Might be an unpopular opinion haha

I'm just listening to all her LPs today in reverse order... and it's mind-boggling to me how I kinda fall asleep/tune out during most of Havoc... but Flavours has my attention the whole time and is top 3 for me of her LPs...

But she co-wrote all the songs on both with Guy Sigsworth and he also produced both...

It's not even like the songs themselves on Havoc are bad or anything... it feels like it's mostly down to the production... it's just very flat to me, while Flavours is very dynamic...