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BIG CHAINSAW MAN MANGA SPOILERS!!!!!

Denji & Pochita from Chainsaw Man take on Shinji & Yui. Fight takes place in a mix of CSM and NGE continuity Earth. Zero prep or knowledge for either.

Round 1: Hybrid Denji VS Base Unit 01 piloted by Shinji.

Round 2: >!Hero Of Hell Pochita stocked with blood VS Berserk Unit 01 after eating Zeruel.!<

Round 3: >!Denji-Man with devil pawns to erase VS End Of Eva Third Impact Unit 01!<

Bonus Round: Same as Round 3 but the strongest >!version of Asa/Yoru joins Denji, strongest version of Asuka joins Shinji, making it a 2v2.!<

Pretty sure this theory has been done to death, but:

-Fake CSM guy on TV mentions creating a devilless world for Adam and Eve.

-Denji invites Asa to a world created by him and Pochita.

-Asa and Denji have both committed a shared, great sin by killing their parents. Adam and Eve are THE original sinners.

-Pochita makes a new world where him and Yoru never get into Denji and Asa’s lives, freeing them from their burdens (in Denji’s case he still killed his dad, but you could argue that the past timeline’s experiences carrying over to the new timeline means it doesn’t bear as much of a burden on him as before) by sacrificing himself for their sins (technically they did start the apocalypse..)

Pochita = Jesus?!?!?!?!?! 😱

I feel like the Adam and Eve line does have quite a bit of importance upon retrospect, esp considering it happens right before Denji’s choice making gets Nayuta killed and the world begins to slowly but surely end.

So probs not a stretch that Fujimoto may have had some classic Christianity/Monotheistic religion parallels here.

Free for all between the King Of Monsters, King Of Evil and King Of Curses. Who wins?

Rules: Characters gain access to their certain abilities in each round. Fight takes place in Tokyo.

Round 1: Base Heisei VS Base Ganondorf VS Heian Era Sukuna without World Cutting Slash or Mahoraga.

Round 2: Burning Godzilla VS Ganondorf with Secret Stone Of Darkness VS 20 Finger Megkuna with World Cutting Slash + Mahoraga.

Cutting magic Mage VS Cutting magic Sorceror, who wins?

Round 1: Completely random encounter on the street.

Round 2: Shin has been tasked by En to clean up Ubel. Ubel knows a hitman is after her. Otherwise, zero knowledge or info.

Round 3: Both have complete knowledge and information on each other.

Title. Can Pochita survive a Tsar Bomba to the face?

Rules: Pochita has full blood stock. The Tsar Bomba is right infront of him and Pochita cannot dodge, blocking is allowed. Death is not erased.

Evidence for: Scaling him to Oregon, Falling calcs or Kinetic Energy (Gun Devil, Liberty Bullet, etc) all output more raw TNT than Tsar Bomba. Nuke Punch scales to those attacks in AP. Pochita can survive these attacks without vaporising, so he walks off the nuke.

Evidence against: Pochita doesn’t scale to Oregon, Falling calcs or Kinetic Energy. Other feats in the series like Gun Devil’s destruction are only kiloton range. Just off visuals, Nuke Punch is drastically weaker than the Tsar and Pochita was already reduced to a torso.

Thoughts?

Yujiro Hanma (Baki) VS Yoriichi Tsugikuni (Demon Slayer) VS Adam Smasher (Cyberpunk) VS Fatalis (Monster Hunter) VS Serie (Frieren) VS En (Dorohedoro).

Rules: Strongest forms/iterations for all characters. Fight takes place in Fatalis’s Castle Schrade.

Round 1: Everyone in character.
Round 2: Bloodlusted.
Round 3: Full knowledge and info + Bloodlusted.

Idk how many ppl know ALL the characters here, but answers are appreciated regardless.

Many people found it strange that in 232, Power and Nayuta show up at the perfect time to save Denji’s life from the Zombie Devil.

For Power, you can reason that her contract with Denji to become friends pretty much survived the universal reset, like how Pochita is still Denji’s heart despite everything.

Makima states she’s “The only one who remembers those names now”, in reference to the concepts Pochita erased. Even she is gradually forgetting these concepts and what they represent, but still ultimately remembers them. Nayuta is the control devil 😱

What if Nayuta remembers Chainsaw Man or her past life in the same way Makima vaguely remembered AIDS, what the Nazis did to the Jews, etc.

In the original timeline, Makima says she came hunting for the Zombie Devil and thats how she found Denji, but you could argue things were way too convenient and its more likely she finally found Chainsaw’s resurgence via Denji’s transformation.

So on a similar note, perhaps Nayuta sought out Denji (and Power) at the warehouse. Maybe she instinctively knows of the connection she had with Denji, and that’s why she drafts him into Public Safety.

We don’t see much of Nayuta in the final chapter, so it could even be possible that she almost fully remembers Denji and dispatches him to kill fodder devils while she plays games to keep him safe (assuming she values him as property like in the old timeline).

Only hole in this theory I can think of is why didn’t previous Control Devil incarnations remember this information? This next part is full on crackpot, but perhaps Makima knew that her next incarnation would have the happy family life she always wanted, so chose to die to let Nayuta come back.

TLDR: Its awfully convenient for Nayuta to appear during the Zombie Devil attack, considering in the OG timeline it was most likely Denji’s transformation that drew Makima in. So what if Nayuta remembers bits of her past existence thanks to being the Control Devil, and that’s why she chose to go to the warehouse?

Pochita’s durability is strong enough to pretty much tank Makima’s bang (his body appears undamaged in the very next panels). Spear can pierce Pochita’s body much better than Makima’s bangs.

We know Spear can clash against Denji, who can clash against Katana Man. Katana Man can’t cut through Aki’s suit properly. Does this mean Aki’s suit fabric is tougher than Pochita’s durability?

Katana Man’s swords can’t possibly be tens to hundreds of times weaker than the other Hybrids considering his blades can very cleanly strike with Denji’s, its his abysmal battle IQ that makes him job to other characters.

Or would you argue this chain scaling is absolutely brain dead ? Where does the Hybrid’s AP scale to, then, especially when taking into account the higher end ranges for Pochita like Falling Devil or Oregon Sword scaling.

Bonus question would be whether Pochita’s AP is vastly, vastly superior to his Durability and thus all the other Hybrid’s AP? This would somewhat allow you to rationalise Oregon level Pochita without upscaling the rest of the verse.

Been wondering where Pochita and Denji scale since the Death Battle. Some circles (like here) think he scales to Island-Continental AP via Oregon, while others (like Spacebattles) think he’s city block tier. I’ll provide some summarised arguments I’ve found, I’d like to know what this sub thinks:

Lowball 1: City block+ stats, Mach 25-100+ reaction speeds. Pochita only scales off of his visual feats.

He can kick Quanxi and Miri through several buildings and throw his heart out at fast speeds. Nuclear Punch and Liberty Bullet (both exhibit city block or above visual destruction) reduce him to a torso. He doesn’t scale to Elbrus because Yoru’s hits tear his body to pieces.

Lowball 2: Town level+ stats, Mach 300-1400 reaction speeds OR 1-12% speed of light to 1.25c via Moon Spears. Pochita chainscales to VISUAL destruction feats of the series.

like Gun Devil levelling a city block in seconds or Elbrus’s explosion. Gun has a specific 500 km/s feat and estimated to travel around the world, Denji visibly dodges Moon Spears. Doesn’t really take into account kinetic energy, only visuals.

Kinetic Energy End: City, Mountain or Island level stats, 12% speed of light to FTL 1.25c.

Pochita scales to Liberty Bullet outputting 160 megatons to several Gigatons worth of energy, or the Moon Spears outputting 1-80 megatons of energy. Both these ends are achieved via calcing the speed and mass of Yoru’s weapons, then estimating Kinetic energy. There’s also Gun Devil’s kinetic energy via its size and movement speed, as well as some Elbrus calcs that get to Gigaton range with this method.

High Ends: Island, Country or Continental level stats, 12% speed of light to FTL 1.25c.

Pochita scales to Yoru weaponising Oregon into a sword, and Falling causing global disruptions passively with gravity. Both feats are either hundreds of gigatons to even higher (Exaton is the highest I’ve seen for Oregon). This end may or may not only scale to AP and not durability depending on who you ask.

Sources:

-https://g1-team.com/2026/05/22/death-battle-predictions-yuji-vs-denji/ (contains a lot of the arguments for higher ends for Denji)

-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User\_blog:GunshyFever/Yoru\_spears\_Denji (Moon Spears)

-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User\_blog:Acertainbcplayer/Gun\_Goddess\_attack\_speed\_and\_KE\_calc\_(simplified)

-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User\_blog:ElJoaki5/Chainsaw\_Man:\_Michigan\_%26\_Oregon\_Sword\_Full\_Calc

TLDR: Does the sub scale Pochita to purely visual feats of the series, without calcs? Or does the sub like to use Kinetic Energy or even State Swords for the series?