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Jordan finished his career with 32,292 regular-season points in just 15 NBA seasons and 1,072 games. He averaged an NBA-record 30.1 points per game for his career.

The key point is that he voluntarily missed huge chunks of his career: 1.1993-94 season (first retirement) 2.Most of the 1994-95 season (played only 17 games after returning) 3.1998-99 season 4.1999-00 season 5.2000-01 season (second retirement before joining Washington) Those absences cost him roughly 4 full seasons.

During the years surrounding those retirements, Jordan was still scoring around 28-33 PPG. Even if we assume a modest 2,200 points per season for four missed years: •2,200 × 4 = 8,800 extra points •Career total: 32,292 + 8,800 = 41,092 points That would have put him comfortably ahead of the previous all-time record holders like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and would have kept him in the conversation even against modern longevity records.

The Prime-Year Argument Is Even Stronger The first retirement happened immediately after his third straight championship in 1993. His previous seasons: •1990-91: 31.5 PPG •1991-92: 30.1 PPG •1992-93: 32.6 PPG Those were not decline years. They were peak-Jordan years.

If Jordan had simply played the 1993-94 and 1994-95 seasons at something close to 30 PPG, that's likely another 4,500-5,000 points right there.

What makes the argument compelling is not just the total points lost, but how quickly Jordan accumulated points. •Jordan: 32,292 points in 1,072 games (30.1 PPG) •LeBron James: 43,440 points in 1,622 games (26.8 PPG)

In summary, Michael Jordan retired twice while still capable of averaging around 30 points per game. He finished with 32,292 points despite playing only 15 seasons. Had he simply played the four seasons he voluntarily sat out, even at a reduced level, he likely would have added 8,000+ points and finished near or above 40,000 career points. His scoring rate was never the issue. The only thing keeping him from threatening the all-time points record was time off the court. If he wanted to keep playing, he'd have that record.

Everything about this season is a complete bonus. They weren't supposed to do shit, yet they're in line for a playoff appearance. THIS ISNT THE SEASON TO GO ALL IN. That is next season. More of our young talent will be ready then.

People are eviscerating Getz for the Doyle and Castillo trades. Hell, I was mad about it for a bit. But these weren't trades just for this season. Getz saw something they could adjust with these guys. The team has been masterful at doing that, as we've seen with Vargas, Burke, Etc. Give them time to work with Doyle and Castillo.

The dooming around here is crazy. This team was supposed to be awful. It's way ahead of schedule. Can we just enjoy it instead of focusing on every single thing Getz did that you don't like? As I side, this season is just a cherry on top. Next season and onward is really when we will go all in. Blowing prospect capital this season would have been silly. Next year we'll have Bonemer, Schultz and Hagen may be ready to start. Roch may come up. NEXT YEAR IS THE YEAR.

For this season, just sit back, strap it in and enjoy the ride. Don't focus on the negatives. The Doomers and Panicans need to chill out.

These guys are under contract for more than just this season. The organization saw something that can be fixed in both these guys. We've seen them do it with Vargas and others. Getz is cooking this season, and you just need to let him roll.

Give the team time to fix these guys before going full doomer on the trades.

Pretty much what the title says.

Absolute mic drop. Sorry, but the debate is OVER. This dude poured gasoline on it and lit it on fire. Absolute masterclass. There's just no way anybody can seriously pick another player over MJ. The gap between him and #2 is THAT big.

Absolute FACTS. Kenny talking about how they would actively AVOID going at MJ on defense. He was so good that they avoided going to whatever side MJ was on.

That's how good he was! Sorry, but you never hear people saying this about LeBron. MJ was an absolute menace.

Let's say Kobe takes the coward's way out and decides to join stacked teams like LeBron. He teams up with Wade and Bosh in 2010-11. How many chips does he win? I think he easily wins 2010-11 and 2011-12. You could argue he gets more rest and doesn't tear him achilles because he'd be able to rest more with Wade and Bosh. If you think that, he may win 3 more. Assuming the injury, it still puts him at 7 chips.