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Which 8th seed to the finals run was more impressive 1999 Knicks or 2023 Heat
What is the lowest that you could reasonable place Michael Jordan all-time?
For me he cannot go lower than 3, Russell and LeBron have (weak but still valid) arguments to be over him and I would still respect your list if you had him there.
LeBron James, 41, is battling 'chronic arthritis': Surprise new report details 76ers superstar's latest struggles
dailymail.comPoint guard Ausar Thompson will only make Pistons better.
Highly improved jump shot
Former 1st overall pick Greg Oden on where he thinks he would rank among all-time centers if not for the injuries
what a humble guy
video via Road Trippin' Show
Dad took pictures of Jordan - found them 35+ years later in a shoebox.
Dad lived in Seattle in the 80’s but passed away of leukemia in 1991 when I was 8.
About 3-4 years ago found these when I was going through some old boxes.
[BREAKING] The NBA will NOT discipline Bub Carrington or the Washington Wizards for tanking comments
Per source, the NBA will not discipline Wizards guard Bub Carrington (or the team) for his comments about tanking.
During Washington's media day, Carrington casually dropped what might be the most honest quote in NBA history:
"We just haven't been told yet to go be the best version of yourself. We've been held back. We were trying to get AJ Dybantsa. That's no secret. Now, no one has handcuffs."
Historical FMVP voting
Bill Simmons' erroneous claim that only five people voted on FMVP led me down a rabbit hole: how many people did vote each year? We know it's 11 now and has been since at least 2015, after which all votes have been made public as follows:
2026 Brunson 11-0
2025 SGA 11-0
2024 Brown 7, Tatum 4
2023 Jokic 11-0
2022 Curry 11-0
2021 Giannis 11-0
2020 LeBron 11-0
2019 Kawhi 10, FVV 1
2018 KD 7, Curry 4
2017 KD 11-0
2016 LeBron 11-0
2015 Iguodala 7, LeBron 4
But what about before that? Previously I'd found very little information. Now, thanks to the good folks at NBAstats.net, here's full-ish data back to 1978:
2014 Kawhi 10, ??? 1
2013 Lebron 11-0
2012 LeBron 9-0
2011 Dirk 9-0
2010 Kobe 7, Gasol 2
2009 Kobe 9-0
2008 Pierce 9-0
2007 Parker 9, Duncan 1
2006 Wade (unanimous)
2005 Duncan 6, Manu 4
2004 Billups (unanimous)
2003 Duncan (unanimous)
2002 Shaq (unanimous)
2001 Shaq (unanimous)
2000 Shaq (unanimous)
1999 Duncan (unanimous)
1998 MJ 11-0
1997 MJ (unanimous)
1996 MJ 6, Kemp 3, Rodman 2
1995 Hakeem (unanimous)
1994 Hakeem (unanimous)
1993 MJ 11-0
1992 MJ 11-0
1991 MJ 11-0
1990 Isiah 11-0
1989 Dumars 11-0
1988 Worthy 7, Magic 4
1987 Magic (unanimous)
1986 Bird 9, McHale 2
1985 Kareem 13-0
1984 Bird 11-0
1983 Moses (unanimous)
1982 Magic 5, McAdoo 3, Nixon 1
1981 Maxwell 6, Bird 1
1980 Magic 4, Kareem 3
1979 DJ 4, Sikma 3
1978 Unseld 3, Hayes 2
From this we can also construct FMVP shares (analogous to MVP shares), again updating my previous attempt:
| Player | Count | Share |
|---|---|---|
| Michael Jordan | 6 | 5.55 |
| LeBron James | 4 | 4.36 |
| Shaquille O'Neal | 3 | 3.00 |
| Tim Duncan | 3 | 2.70 |
| Magic Johnson | 3 | 2.49 |
| Kareem Abdul-Jabbar | 2 | 2.43 |
| Hakeem Olajuwon | 2 | 2.00 |
| Willis Reed | 2 | 2.00 |
| Larry Bird | 2 | 1.96 |
| Kawhi Leonard | 2 | 1.82 |
| Kobe Bryant | 2 | 1.78 |
| Kevin Durant | 2 | 1.64 |
| Stephen Curry | 1 | 1.36 |
| Bill Walton | 1 | 1.00 |
| Chauncey Billups | 1 | 1.00 |
| Dirk Nowitzki | 1 | 1.00 |
| Dwyane Wade | 1 | 1.00 |
| Giannis Antetokounmpo | 1 | 1.00 |
| Isiah Thomas | 1 | 1.00 |
| Jalen Brunson | 1 | 1.00 |
| Jerry West | 1 | 1.00 |
| Jo Jo White | 1 | 1.00 |
| Joe Dumars | 1 | 1.00 |
| John Havlicek | 1 | 1.00 |
| Moses Malone | 1 | 1.00 |
| Nikola Jokić | 1 | 1.00 |
| Paul Pierce | 1 | 1.00 |
| Rick Barry | 1 | 1.00 |
| Shai Gilgeous-Alexander | 1 | 1.00 |
| Wilt Chamberlain | 1 | 1.00 |
| Tony Parker | 1 | 0.90 |
| Cedric Maxwell | 1 | 0.86 |
| Andre Iguodala | 1 | 0.64 |
| James Worthy | 1 | 0.64 |
| Jaylen Brown | 1 | 0.64 |
| Wes Unseld | 1 | 0.60 |
| Dennis Johnson | 1 | 0.57 |
| Jack Sikma | 0 | 0.43 |
| Elvin Hayes | 0 | 0.40 |
| Manu Ginóbili | 0 | 0.40 |
| Jayson Tatum | 0 | 0.36 |
| Bob McAdoo | 0 | 0.33 |
| Shawn Kemp | 0 | 0.27 |
| Pau Gasol | 0 | 0.22 |
| Dennis Rodman | 0 | 0.18 |
| Kevin McHale | 0 | 0.18 |
| Norm Nixon | 0 | 0.11 |
| Fred VanVleet | 0 | 0.09 |
[I've assumed 1969-77 were unanimous until proven otherwise]