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Hey guys, I don't think the Official Writer (TV Series/Mark Valenti) will answer this question, BUT, I'd like to share something that even Sonic fans wouldn't dare to analyze.

¿How many canons are there in LazyTown/Latibær?

The point is not to talk about all of them, but at least to review how many exist.

After doing some calculations, these are the only ones that come to mind/the confirmed ones:

-Afram/Glanni (Theater Play Works) 1996-1999/2001: This begins with the appearance of Elfthlete (Íþróttaálfurinn) in Afram and ends with a Christmas special on CD/Jól í Latabæ

-Pilot 2002: This is the one that most people don't know about except for those who saw the old LazyTown website; it's the canceled LazyTown of Shelby Young's Stephanie (Alex was Bessie's son and he coexisted with Robbie before Number 9 gave him a box with the suit of the next Sportacus). This was the most controversial when people learned of its existence, but it didn't continue and remained as an Elseworld.

-2004-2012/The TV Prime Era: The TV series we love, which is mostly composed of these productions. LazyTown (Season 1-2), Orkuboltinn, LazyTown Extra/Action Time (all versions are canon: UK, Latin America/Brazil, USA, Spain, etc.) and Super Sproutlet Show (except for the last episodes where they changed Stephanie and Sportacus's outfit), this era had a period of at least 4 years that we didn't see + another 4 years of adventures that weren't seen because the missing movies and seasons couldn't be made due to the absence of Julianna and Stefan. This continuity ended with Sportacus at his peak as the Number 10 Guardian and a Stephanie who was approximately 16 years old.

-Turner Era (Season 3-4): Before I get killed, I'm leaving this continuity out of canon because of all the changes and contradictions, despite including flashbacks to previous seasons, Bean's absence, and the events of LazyTown Extra (even though material from that series was used). Robbie, as the fortune teller, predicted those events to Ziggy (it's possible that in this continuity he never received the offer to travel around the world and stayed in LazyTown, which would have had a beach and seaport, probably built by Pixel). In fact, this continuity would be too controversial and confusing. It seems that both Julianna and Chloe coexisted as Stephanie. Furthermore, Sportacus was a few years older and had a new suit (possibly also made by Pixel, who apparently learned nothing after messing up in LazyTown Goes Digital, Pixespix and other episodes where he abused technology). Trixie's voice also changed. I never liked Aymee Garcia as the character (Sarah Burgess's absence was very noticeable). This continuity ended with Robbie Rotten trapped on the moon if we consider Dream Team as the chronological ending (no one came to rescue him, and he possibly drowned due to lack of anything to help him breathe in space). However, in this continuity, Robbie also won by keeping the Sportacus suit after the events of Little Pink Riding Hood.

Other Continuities:

-Videogames (All PC games like Lazy Town Festival, Champions, and flash games like Pixelpix, Cat the Fish, Super Hero Challenge, Get Up and Move!, Sportacus Hero Training, Ziggy's Challenge, etc., are part of the continuity, but assuming all the characters became cartoons/2D as happened in the Once Upon a Time episode, although sometimes they are shown to be live-action.)

-Magazine/Comics UK: All the official comics and stories adapted from the series, as well as those we never saw in the series, take place here. The reason they are in a different continuity is that they were never seen in the show, and they also use the same cartoon style as the promotional materials from that era. Basically, it's like the Archie comics of LazyTown. Unfortunately, they didn't release any more comics of the franchise after the Turner Company's acquisition.

-Modern Events/Theater Plays 2010s: Ignoring all the live shows from the 2000s except for Roboticus 2007 UK and Latibær Live Show 2009, we have: Latabæjarhátíð í Höllinni Festival 2010, Latabaejarhlaup 2012, Ævintýri í Latabæ! 2014 and Afmælishátíd Latabæjar 2026 (honestly this continuity is a mess because it mixes up the theater productions, the series, the live show events, as well as the fact that there was no continuity at least with Sportacus, Stephanie and Robbie except for Dyri who at least did more times than Magnus) although I had to discard the rest of the live shows involving Nick Jr. and Sesame Place because honestly it would be a problem if they were also part of that continuity and everything became more confusing.

-Icelandic Books: The trilogy that started it all with the first book, Áfram Latibær!, and culminated with Latibær Í Vandræðum, what was seen later were epilogues and short stories such as: Litabók Latabæjar, Leikjabók Latabæjar, etc. (the books based on the TV show are from the magazine/Kindle book continuity, so they are not part of the same timeline).

In total, there are eight different continuities to choose from, and very few had a proper conclusion. Number nine would be Sportacus 11 (but that's Jon Pall's project), and given the rumors that the series could return (although it wouldn't be the same without Robbie), the most feasible option would be to continue with the Turner continuity or resume the Prime continuity, although technically that would be impossible since Julianna gave up being Stephanie. However, it's more likely they'll create a tenth continuity because the Icelandic Dub can't be considered another continuity since it's still the same TV series, but it does mention Sportacus as an elf.

Which of them is your favorite continuity/canon? Do you think there's a possibility that more continuities will be created?

Honestly, I was always curious to know what happened to Shelby Young's Stephanie afterward, or to see the unseen projects from the Prime/TV Series Continuity. Up until then, LazyTown at least had more continuities than Sonic in the Video Game Canon, but fewer than Archie Sonic (counting the 3 Genesis Waves + the Super Genesis Waves/The Reboot, the Zones, and other publishers like Fleetway, Manga, etc.).

Hello IDW fans, I've heard many complaints and praises about Tangle, Whisper, Surge, and others becoming canon. However, given that SEGA has severely restricted comics with the media unification in 2021, I decided to come up with an idea of ​​how to reintroduce these characters into canon without forcing all IDW comics into the canon.

These are my ideas after watching Dragon Ball Super: Broly and how they reintroduced Bardock, Broly, and Gogeta by retconning these characters and modifying their designs to fit the Manga/Movie but now, i will modify the stories of these characters in order to adjust them to the canon of the video games and make them feel like characters that could appear in future games of the franchise.:

-Tangle: Her story with Jewel is interesting, but one problem I see is that her hyperactivity clearly doesn't reflect what led her to be that way, and we don't know much about how Tangle and Jewel met in Spiral Hill Village. I know she was mentioned in Frontiers, but a better way to reintroduce her would have been to make an animated short in the style of Tyson Hesse (with the voices of Ashlyn Madden and Erika Harlacher as Jewel) telling us how Jewel found Tangle alone, as she had been an orphan since she was a baby lemur and no one had wanted to take care of her since her parents abandoned her in the village. Years later, when Forces arrived, they would have both had to protect the library, even though they were aware that the place was no longer safe, until one day they saw the Heroes fighting and how Tangle had to defend Jewel from some robots trying to kill her. After that, Sonic would appear and congratulate Tangle, seeing her potential, but then he would leave to continue his journey. Tangle and Jewel would have remained... In shock, and from that day on they would have joined the restoration, which, unlike IDW, would be commanded jointly by Knuckles and Amy. This would be the perfect moment for the characters to meet and interact with Tangle, who would be a fan of all of Sonic's friends, although she would also keep her distance, as some still had aftereffects after having beaten Eggman in the battle, and they would have to go looking for him since they knew perfectly well that he would still be alive somewhere, while Jewel would become an advisor and secretary for several missions of the restoration project.

-Whisper: Her story is incredible; I wouldn't change much, but it needs to be readjusted to make it make more sense in this new era. Just like in IDW, Whisper would have her squad of Diamonds (who here would be Warriors, not Cutters). This squad was previously commanded by Whisper's father, but he died during the time Eggman attacked 99% of the world, and both humans and anthropomorphs were nearly wiped out. If it weren't for Whisper taking over the leadership of the mercenaries, she would have led them until everything suddenly fell apart when Mimic Octopus decided to betray his own team, wipe them all out, and escape, leaving Whisper devastated. She would have discovered that her father hadn't died a hero in the war, but rather in vain at the hands of the one she once considered her right-hand man. Traumatized and resentful of the world, she would have fought for her own survival. Whisper, not counting her blows, was seen by several members of the resistance who invited her (only as a military contribution and trainer of the new avatars, since Whisper was actually the disciplined teacher of Rookie/Gadget, Barry, and his friends, who commanded the first line of defense, indirectly helping) to have Gadget recruited by Knuckles, who found him unaware that Whisper had trained him. Indirectly, Whisper helped rescue Sonic and participated in the final battle that led to Infinite's "defeat." Although she considered retiring from the restoration and from being a mercenary, she discovered that Mimic was still alive and swore revenge. But on the day she was going to leave the restoration team, Tangle and Jewel arrived, and they met, forming a great friendship and gradually restoring Whisper's old team, which still held affection and memory for all its fallen comrades (as did Tangle and Jewel). Whisper would be a short film in the style of Tyson Hesse and would feature the voice of Anairis Quiñones years before it was announced that the character would debut on Tails Channel and would be a parallel short film/from Whisper's point of view about the horrors she would have experienced in the war before and after Forces).

-Surge: What we were never shown about Surge and her partner, Kitsunami Fennec, was what their lives were like before Dr. Starline kidnapped them... (In my version, Surge is voiced by Erica Mendez.) Before becoming the characters we know, Surge and Kit were just two kids who went through unimaginable hardships. Their nation was attacked by Eggman's robots, and during the chaos they both lost the most important people in their lives: their families. One day, after being trapped beneath a mountain of rubble, the two were rescued by someone who seemed like a savior at first: Dr. Starline. In reality, he was nothing more than a sick, obsessive Eggman fanatic. He took them to his laboratory and, in a manner similar to the Winter Soldier program mixed with Age of Ultron-style manipulation, subjected them to intense brainwashing and psychological conditioning, turning them into living weapons. Starline's original plan was to use their bodies as the basis for biomechanical android clones that would obey him completely. However, he eventually changed his mind and decided to transform them into androids themselves. Using data collected from all of Earth's heroes primarily Sonic and Tails he reshaped the two children into twisted reinterpretations of the heroes they were meant to replace. The tragic irony was that, deep down, Surge and Kit never wanted to be heroes, villains, or weapons. They only wanted a normal life. Surge was engineered to become Sonic's opposite, while Kit was designed to be Tails' counterpart. Their sole purpose was to surpass and replace the originals. Eventually, Starline unleashed his new creations. During a massive battle against Sonic who in this version is accompanied by Tails Surge and Kit suffered the worst beating of their lives and nearly died. However, Starline made a critical mistake. The trauma of the battle caused fragments of Surge's original memories to resurface. Realizing the truth, Surge turned against her creator and escaped alongside Kit. Refusing to continue following Starline's orders, the two vanished, leaving Sonic confused and Tails deeply shaken after nearly being killed by Kitsunami's devastating water-based powers. From that point onward, the story would move into the Frontiers era. There, we would discover that Surge and Kit had secretly been helping Whisper track down Mimic. During this time, they also became friends with Jewel and Tangle, although the latter still felt somewhat uneasy around them due to their violent past. Eventually, the girls decided to introduce Surge and Kit to Sonic and his friends. The meeting was extremely tense, and if Amy hadn't intervened, Surge and Kit would have likely attacked the heroes on the spot. Instead, an uneasy agreement was reached. Surge and Kit promised not to harm anyone as long as they were allowed to assist during situations where Sonic wasn't available. Interestingly, Surge became fascinated by Blaze. At first, she was jealous of Blaze's fire powers and wished she possessed similar abilities. Kit, however, reminded her that her electrical powers were more than enough to stand on their own. Sonic later reinforced this idea by showing Surge that she could combine electricity with wind-based techniques, creating an absolutely monstrous new level of power. From that day forward, Surge set herself a new goal: not to become better than Sonic, but to become a better version of herself. As for Kitsunami Fennec, despite being incredibly quiet and reserved, he eventually took on the role of personal bodyguard for Cream and Vanilla whenever Gemerl wasn't available. Ironically, this development began to bother Tails. For the first time, he felt as though someone was overshadowing him. Rather than becoming resentful, however, he decided it was time to evolve and move beyond the mistakes that had haunted him since Unleashed-Forces. Realizing he could no longer remain stagnant, Tails began work on his next great invention: The Tornado Mark IV.

As with the Tangle and Whisper shorts, this would have been released as a one-shot/animated short film as another prelude to the premiere of Frontiers, only this one would have had the animation of Knuckles Prologue and really showing us how we see everything from Surge's perspective and her motivations so that little by little she makes the decision of whether to continue being a villain or an anti-heroine (Kit's voice would have been provided by Devilartemis/the expert of emo and depression characters, this being his first voice acting role outside of his YouTube channel and being a prelude to KaggyFilms later joining the franchise with Infinite and Gemerl).

¿What did you think?

Do you think this is how they should have introduced the comic book characters instead of just copying and pasting their IDW stories?

Do you think that with these changes the characters would have been done justice and had dialogue for Crossworlds in both Japanese and English?

I originally wanted to do this with Lanolin The Sheep, but since Adam Bryce Thomas and Evan Stanley would most likely have refused to have the character reinterpreted by other people, and partly because they would have wanted to make a short to explain his past but it wouldn't end up being as good as the Diamond Warriors girls' shorts, I ended up discarding the idea. In any case, these shorts would have been supervised by Ian Flynn and Tyson Hesse to ensure consistency with these characters.

Leave your opinions in the comments

We know that the original main writer has no plans to share the script with the public for one of the two movies that were written (we know absolutely nothing about the one for number 11) but for the Number 10 Cancelled Movie vs The Original Sportacus Number Nine... we do know some things, so here are some characters and actors who definitely should have returned and who I don't think they would have recast for the movie except for a few exceptions:

Sportacus 10/Magnus Scheving (The Only Confirmed/He was supposed to be the protagonist).

Ziggy/Guðmundur Þór Kárason (I know that around 2008-2010 he took a long break from the franchise in the USA, but honestly, if he was going to be in charge of the production of The Puppets, he would have immediately returned as Ziggy and perhaps reprised his role as Hannin, a character who was rumored to be in this movie after not being included in the show.)

Pixel/Ronald Binion (Kobie Powell left the role after season 2, so honestly this was a definitive change, and honestly, it sounded more mature/an evolution of the pixel voice from seasons 1-2)

Stingy/Jodi Eichelberger (he is the definition of MINE)

Trixie/Sarah Burgess (at that time she was still Trixie so they definitely wouldn't have recast her if Warner hadn't done the project)

Milford/David Matthew Feldman (He's been in all the projects for the series and they probably would have called him back, although it depends on his availability.)

Bessie/Julie Westwood (The same goes for David, only this time he would probably have a more cinematic role and would probably be mostly concerned about the safety of the children, knowing that number 9 had returned.)

Airship Voice (I would have kept Caroline Dalton as she was heard in LazyTown Extra, as her voice has had the most inconsistencies throughout the series, since in seasons 1-2 she was dubbed by different actresses.)

Now for the more complicated issue... Stephanie and Robbie.

We know that at one point both actors (Julianna Rose Mauriello and Stefan Karl) declined to return for different reasons. Julianna was tired of playing the character after LazyTown, and Stefan was out of Iceland at the time. BUT, let's suppose they had accepted after receiving a multi-million dollar paycheck, similar to Tom Hanks's return as Woody in Toy Story 3, and that they would have revived the discarded concept of Stephanie being a teenager in this film (counting the four years from Welcome to LazyTown to the events of LazyTown Extra).

Other characters like Rotenella or Lazy Genie (Örn Árnason) weren't confirmed, but it's possible they would have appeared as cameos (especially Lazy Genie), since his lamp was probably still out there somewhere in the world, and he might have had to appear to warn or support the characters because he's too overpowered, and leaving him out of this movie would have been an insult to his character. (The other characters introduced in later seasons wouldn't have appeared because they didn't exist yet.) It wouldn't have been the right time for Roboticus, although I imagine he might have appeared in the post-credits scene (like a cliffhanger leading into a season 3 prelude special). Also, since the international children were being played by, well... children, I doubt they appeared as extras, although if we had any appearances from the Latibær characters, they probably would have appeared in this project, since according to the rumors of the time, it was almost considered canon that the characters from the 90s were the parents of Stephanie and her friends and that the characters of the second Theater Play would actually be her uncles/brothers from the first Solla and Ziggi although Milford and Bessie would still be the same. Based on Stefan Karl's statements that Robbie and Glanni are related and that the latter was his cousin, I'm still going to speculate that he was going to return as the true antagonist/the mastermind behind everything, since he was actually the one responsible for Sportacus 9 leaving town. He did something terrible to him that caused both Glanni and the rest of the characters to transform into puppets long before Robbie in 2000 and Stephanie in 2004 arrived in town. Robbie never actually lived his whole life in LazyTown; his entire lair was inherited from his cousin. And the puppet we see in the Agent Secret Zero episode (which was actually Glanni) would be spoiling the fact that the 90s Theater plays were going to become canon.

I know this sounds crazy, but it would have been the perfect opportunity to introduce Jives and Penny Pestella, just as Magnus wanted with the former, and thus expand the original team. They would need all the help they could get to stop Sportacus 9. I think they might have adapted the Olympic Games again, based on the fact that they were holding the games in Beijing in 2008. What we saw in Sports-Day would be nothing compared to the challenge of the guardians that Sportacus 10 vs. 9 would have had to overcome until they finally faced off in a final duel to see which of the two Sportacuses would remain. Speaking of which, we probably would have had flashbacks of the previous eight to at least know who they were. Rotten Beard's Ancestor Sportacus would probably have been one of the confirmed ones, along with Number 2. Number 4 is believed to have been Blue Knight in a scrapped concept, and maybe 7 and 8 would have been Sportacus's parents, although that would probably make 9 his. Brother, or in the best-case scenario (an elf with no family/anyone who only followed Number 8 to be his successor/apprentice who took a very dark path after Glanni Glæpur Í Latabæ), in short, yes, this sounds like fan fiction, but with some adjustments and with Fox Iceland and International distributing this film without any intervention, this probably would have been cinematic.

¿What do you think? (It's still unknown which actor would have been chosen for Number 9, but it's likely it would have been an old Icelander, and in the flashbacks, probably Magnus alongside the actors from Latibær) who would have necessarily reprised their roles (a LazyTown movie with Selma Björnsdóttir as Stephanie's mother and Linda Ásgeirsdóttir as Stephanie's aunt would have been peak).