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First off, hey everyone. Howzitgoin? Thank God for this sub. I'm glad I can actually speak with people and learn to grow out of my awkwardness a good bit.

I'll be honest. I really just want to debate how Lucius clears the list. If you say a character beats Lucius, I do plan to ask you why and ask for evidence.

For reference who doesn't know where I scale Lucius and why, he absorbed Lucifero. This is where he scales and his type of existence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackCloverScaling/comments/1uu3jsf/my_qliphoth_cosmology_argument_with_scans/

If anyone disagrees with this scale, I plan to ask you why you disagree. If it isn't a point from my argument, I will possibly take that as you not having read the argument, meaning I may simply take your points as strawman arguments or non sequiturs.

For anyone that wants the debate, let's have a good discussion.

Real talk, after seeing so many DB matchups against BC or BC being involved, and everyone just saying the DB character solos from the same feats BC has or really less than a smaller feat of cosmic power in BC, I'm ripping the band-aid off. This is Goku's clash with Beerus. All the matter would be destroyed in Universe 7. But, what would be left behind? An empty void. A "void," especially when it is explicitly referred to as an "empty" one, can and most likely does refer to an empty space or a vacuum(empty space). There wasn't even any guarantee that he can actually destroy the dimensions of spacetime across that area of itself in the area, and the feat is scaled as Low Multiversal or higher. He didn't even directly affect spacetime, at least to the point of destruction, and he's scaled as 4D. That feat is only 3D, and you can't just say... "you don't know the Dragon Ball cosmology," which isn't entirely true, but is also irrelevant. You have to affect those dimensions to be scaled to the dimensions of space and time that​ exist in your verse. If you don't do that, you don't directly scale to them. Fair is fair. That goes for everyone.

Also, since people generally scale based on the principles of General Relativity, or at least Special Relativity(like the idea that time is a dimension, which is theory/part of theory), which GR uses, this point should be seen as reasonable. Space and time are one object. That's why it's called "spacetime" instead of just being space and time individually. That does matter because if you destroy space itself, the time was one object with it. Space is 4D because spacetime overall is 4D, which it is part of the fundamental body of. So, when Dorothy and Reve didn't just create Glamour World, but directly destroyed it, even they would have not just High 3A scaling, but Low 2C scaling. Before anyone says that no one can replicate this, Morris replicated this. He can interact with intangible concepts and received the compatibility to dismantle Glamour World. No one said he had to be able to dismantle infinite space, so he should be scaled to it. Lucifero, who gave Morris that compatibility, was straight up stated to have the strongest magic power at 50%. So, Dorothy is definitely outscaled, meaning infinite 4D power is outclassed by Asta, who cut through 50% Lucifero and Lucius, who absorbed all of Lucifero's power. Asta definitely scales above it. Her magic power would need to travel an infinite distance in finite time, and Dorothy should be able to reinforce her physical capabilities with magic as others do, so she should have an infinite speed increase, yet Lucifero easily reacted to her. Asta has infinite speed(at least) by besting Lucifero's ability to react. We even now know Asta can cut through space and literally replicates Yami's Dimension Slash and Dimension Slash: Equinox with Anti-Magic. So, Asta wouldn't even be outhaxxed in the matchup.

Mind you, this is all just Glamour World scaling, which I'm only calling Uni+. Not scaling Asta to the Qliphoth, which Lucifero fused with, and can be scaled as Complex Multiversal, way past what Dorothy directly made and destroyed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackCloverScaling/comments/1uu3jsf/my_qliphoth_cosmology_argument_with_scans/

The act of the fusion would also give Asta an immeasurable speed argument since fusing with the spacetimes would be fusing with all past, present, and future inside of them, moving past the normal flow of time.

If anyone asks why I think Asta wins, this is why. Goku didn't directly destroy spacetime in his fight against Beerus. That's the main reason. There are more past this, like all 12 universes being part of a single timeline, too. Black Clover has to go through plenty of scrutiny that other verses just get so little of, including many of the ones that people claim beat Goku pretty easily. I think both BC and other verses should go through plenty of fair scrutiny. Under said fair scrutiny, Asta wins.

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Trion Juggernaut (Marvel)

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Lucius (Black Clover)

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SBT Acnologia (Fairy Tail)

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Wonder Of U (JOJO)

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Current Goku (DBS)

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Anti-Pops (Regular Show)

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Arishem (MCU)

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Odin (God Of War)

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Shibai (Boruto)

This is just an incomplete rant I shared in a comment section of another post, but I want people to see this.

You know.... during me writing all of this, I was about to have way more anger while writing this, but after I looked at the moments the character I'm talking about has.... maybe the character isn't so bad, but I simply misunderstood them. This will be long because I'm also processing my own feelings while typing this. This isn't even all I want to say, but here's what it is for now.

Mereoleona is a fraud.... or a very big hypocrite. I wouldn't be saying this so much if she didn't say anything like Fuegoleon not being fit to be captain. This is both a character AND a powerscaling perspective. My most practical problem with Mereoleona is probably summarized by Matthew 7: 1-2: Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. I may not have the manga quotes for everything, though. Please take my critique with that in mind.

She is the same person that was throwing a tantrum about how a squad didn't get that many stars. A squad she is never there for, watches from the sidelines while not doing a thing as a Magic Knight, and has her little brother in it that just got his grimoire, but has been an active soldier for the kingdom longer than her, but decks him in the face like this is his fault or he represents the team. Like she couldn't have the conversation with the Crimson Lions like a week or more before the Star Festival began. She jumped to blaming her team and not her taking any accountability for herself first. If anyone remembers A Bug's Life... "First rule of leadership: everything is your fault." If I remember correctly, Yami got stars for Asta's accomplishments while he was in hot water with the law and the public due to being posessed. So.... if captains can earn stars.... where are her stars, then? How many did she get? If her ratio isn't that much better than her team in proportion to the time that she has been there vs her squad, why take what she has to say seriously? She wouldn't be doing any more than they are.

How well does she do when it comes time to actually perform against the elves? Well, she starts by going 1v1 against Raia and just beating out any spell Raia has. Even his attempt to use Anti-Magic(which didn't succeed in making Anti-Magic). Water magic? Didn't work. Fire magic? Nope. Dark magic? Nah. Then, she basically corners him with Mana Zone, she's almost done with him and just needs to overwhelm his healing magic... wait, he's about to blow himself up with one of her Mana Zone punches, which could have killed Raia, Mereoleona, then ALSO Asta and Zora, who were with her. Who saves them all? Asta. He blitzes her Mana Zone punch... IN BASE. He negates Raia's magic, saving them all. How does Mereoleona respond? "I don't remember giving you permission to interfere with my fight" or something along those lines(that's what I remember her saying in the anime). Bro, anyone surprised that Asta wasn't like... "Who gave you permission to kill ME?!" But maybe she just wanted to handle it herself.

Then, the 5 elf part happens. How does this play out? She gets Asta and Zora away because they'd just slow her down if Asta isn't willing to kill the elves(understandable). She receives a nerf from snow magic(if it was specifically snow magic), which slowed her movement, but she doesn't just tough it out, she does a Mana Zone: Full Release to activate Calidus Brachium Purgatory. Did she take any elves out? No. Did she hurt any or put any elf out of the fight? No. Who saved her? Asta(again) and Zora. Back to back. She needed rescuing from an enemy again and was knocked out this time. Got up later. Who does she fight? One elf. Vetto. A teenage Vetto who was physically less bulky. He should have had more magic power, but he was less bulky. That's who Mereoleona found to be able to beat and to be a more equal opponent.

Mereoleona did clearly take the elves on for Asta and Zora, even if she got no results other than buying Asta and Zora time to get away. She talks in very big game for these results. A character that is this proud and disrespectful could be made more likeable if they were funny or more competent in their work, but she isn't really too much of either. Then again, maybe the reason she even took on those elves wasn't really because she thought she could win.

She beats the ancient "demon" later all by herself...... I'm starting to notice a pattern. She assists people she doesn't know.... by taking on this massive monster all by herself. She doesn't let anyone try to pitch in. She just takes care of it herself.

Fights Morris. She ain't doing too good against a guy fused with a Supreme rank that didn't even bust out his second attribute yet. Then, some of her subordinates, her comrades, come out and take the hits from Morris's tentacles before they touch Mereoleona and she died from them. This is the first time I've ever seen such a deep and human reaction written on Mereoleona's face as she doesn't take their sacrifices in vain and punches through them since they were already touched by Morris, but the war isn't over. Where were these guys before that part, though? Not with her. She was handling it all by herself.... until she wasn't.

This is all hypocritical as she basically accuses Fuegoleon of raising people that can't fend for themselves. But that's exactly what she's also doing. She's also training people to just do the training where I can make sure you're okay. Any dangerous fight, though? That's mine. Don't get in it. You can get hurt/killed. That is the mother hen behavior that Mereoleona accused Fuegoleon of. How can she speak against him so quickly when she acts this way?

What I think may be is that Mereoleona didn't really see the hypocrisy. She just saw vulnerable people. She cares too deeply to let people be harmed, so she takes them under her wing, like a mother hen. Asta and Zora are with here because they are supposed to be strong and useful in combat? She never lets them fight, but protects them like a mother hen. People of a completely different kingdom up against a kaiju? That thing was enormous and no one looked like they wanted to get near it. She doesn't encourage the rebels of Spade Kingdom against the Dark Triad to fight their own battle, even if she's there or even carrying the fight, but just deals with it herself. That's exactly what we see with the Morris fight. She is there with no team backup all by herself again. It was a jumpscare to her to see her team in Morris's grasp instead of herself. That right there was probably EXACTLY when she broke. That's the very thing she wanted to avoid. Other people dying when she was there and has worked so hard to be strong. She never wanted that to happen again.... and it broke her when it happened.

Then, when she loses someone she cared about, it was no longer... "Don't be shy. Kill me..." like she was challenging the elves to make their own choice. When someone she cared about died in front of her and she honored their sacrifice by continuing to push forward by punching through them, she was like... "As a tribute to my fallen comrades, I will burn both you and my life to ashes!" This was no longer her just accepting someone else's choice after losing most of her ability to reasonably win a fight. This was like Thragg saying... "I choose DEATH!" She would rather choose to die than to give anything less than what those she cared about gave to her, which was their very lives, when that's what she was always willing to give for them.....

I'll be blunt and say she was one of my least favorite BC characters..... but I believe that changed entirely. She is one of the most interesting female character in anime I have seen. I honestly thought she was a vain caricature that was simply just another... "Only the strong mean something to me" type of person. But she's actually way different than that. I think she wants OTHER people to be strong so she doesn't have to worry about them. When she can, she jumps into battle and excludes other people so they can't be hurt. She is not a being ruled by pride or is simply a caricature that just gets angry over everything.. but she is a person rule by love.

https://youtu.be/GDTD24KsdGc?is=Wjvh1votkHvC7yES

Okay, but can Kirsch beat a flower's dream?

Source for all:

Rimuru Tempest from Tensura.

Anos Voldigoad from Misfit Of The Demon King Academy.

Akuto Sai from Demon King Daimao

Demon King from Seven Deadly Sins

Lucifero from Black Clover

Demon King Orm from A Wild Last Boss Appeared

Kuromueina from Isekai at Peace

Now, y'all know who I think wins.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackCloverScaling/comments/1uu3jsf/my_qliphoth_cosmology_argument_with_scans/

But I want to see what y'all think. I think the DK has a good toolkit, but gravity magic just perfectly plays around it.

If this is too much for either side, round 2 will be equal stats.

Hey, how's everyone? Yes, you are reading this correctly. To start with, here's where I scale the verse through its cosmology that the characters can significantly affect and the verse's speed: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackCloverScaling/comments/1uu3jsf/my_qliphoth_cosmology_argument_with_scans/

The physiology of the "devils" in BC: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackCloverScaling/comments/1s9h4d5/devil_hearts_in_case_you_didnt_know/ This extends to paladins, Lucius and his clones, and anyone that can fuse with a "devil," which does include Asta, but he has Liebe, who is only a low-rank. I don't think it matters for this match-up, though.

There's also this short and secondary immeasurable speed argument, too: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackCloverScaling/comments/1rwkbyp/black_clover_immeasurable_speed/

With the first scale, I also explain how the Qliphoth is both existent and non-existent, but the magic power inside of said object still exists as an independent object regardless of the existence and non-existence of any part of the Qliphoth or the magic attributes that make it up, meaning the magic power that causes it to exist exists beyond even beyond-dimensional existence and non-existence, and has NEP2. That also includes malicious mana, "devil" power, and even "sacred" power that can exist inside of Paladin Morgen's dark magic, which came from a "purified" Lucifugus.

I'll be straight to the point because I have a lot to say. Any character match-up against whoever and however many people from either verse. I say this because y'all know me well enough to not flee from an argument and if I actually had the confidence to say someone from BC solos a verse, I'm sticking by it.

If you disagree, run the debate. No character is above a debate and no one is above a debate because they simply think they know something is the case. That same midset is how I lost in an Asta vs Deku debate when I was much more new to scaling. I simply went with ideas that the group(s) I listened to had and couldn't back up the ideas for myself. Black Clover isn't only Multi-Continental because that's the public consensus, which was probably gained from VSBW, Death Battle, TikTok, and casual viewership rather than the eyes of a powerscaler or community of them constantly going back to the verse and analyzing it.

If you simply dislike the post or comments I make, but drop no argument to explain why you disagree, that just communicates to me that, when given the chance to actually talk about THE Rimuru can beat a supposedly Continental-Country-City level character, y'all won't even try to debate it or even simply list a feat for reference. If all you post is a meme, that just tells me that you had all the time in the world to make a good case to convince me of why I'm wrong about something thay should be easy to prove, and that's the best you came with.

I love powerscaling too much to just sit here and let powerscaling become nothing but lazy, cut and dry, and not "powerscaling," but "powerscaled." That would be fine if there was nothing more about a series to be discovered or reanalyzed, but that's almost never true, if ever true to begin with.

If anyone actually thinks that I'm too stubbonr to be convinced that I'm wrong, that's just not so. I used to call Black Clover 8D wherever I went because I actually thought that and I appealed to the use of Euclidean Geometry to make that argument. Someone pointed out to me that, because I used the principles of General Relativity to scale Black Clover, which uses a Minkowski spacetime as a basis for the model of spacetime it has, which would have pseudo-Euclidean and technically hyperbolic geometry, my point did not stand. Now, even with that, that's why I changed my argument to the layers of the Underworld being separate and equidistant with said model of spacetime rather than specifically being Euclidean because them being completely Euclidean didn't make sense in context as someone pointed out. So, while up to 6D was ultimately unaffected, part of my argument included a higher dimension of both space and time between branching timelines. I stopped using that part of the scale because I found out that I couldn't determine the geometry of those branching timelines at the time. As in I both considered what someone said and even conceded a part of my argument because of a point someone else made, and I'm staying consistent by arguing only what I believe, staying with the 6D scaling and not the 8D scale.

So, no. I'm not someone that can't be convinced of a point. I am stubborn. I am very technical with it comes to a point. I am biased towards Black Clover and do not have some perfect knowledge of any verse, but that's everyone. Everyone has incomplete knowledge and biases. But it doesn't matter if you are biased if the logic you use to scale a verse isn't. It doesn't matter if you wanted a character to win if the logic dictates that you're correct. That goes both ways.

So, I kindly invite anyone to discuss over who actually wins. God bless.

Alright. So, this is basically my copy-paste explaining the Qliphoth, how high it scales, and why anyone scales to it. But I did add and edit certain parts, which include a basic argument for the non-existence of the Qliphoth.

First off, why does anyone scale to the Qliphoth? In Chapter 315, page 3, "Lucifero" fused with the Qliphoth. Simply speaking, he became the cosmological tree that contains the Underworld inside of it.

This tree connects and contains several separate spacetimes. Now, if 2 spacetimes are both separate and equidistant, you need a higher dimension to connect and contain parallel planes. But let's establish why the layers being separate spacetimes is the case.

To address the idea before that, though... While Dante did say that the ritual would create a tree of Qliphoth, they didn't create THE tree of Qliphoth. We know this because in Chapter 331, pages 10-11, Damnatio bring reports from the Spade Kingdom from 20 years before the ritual ever started. The reports described who was matched to the Qliphoth from back then. When Astaroth left, Megicula took his place, heavily implying that when he left the Underworld, and Megicula took his place, he wasn't matched to the Qliphoth anymore because she took over his position, his matching to the Qliphoth. So, he can physically leave the Qliphoth within that 20 year time period, meaning it existed before the ritual ever happened.

In Chapter 280, page 1, Nacht stated the layers of the Underworld are "mapped to" the Qliphoth, which would mean they represent areas of the Qliphoth in context. The kanji behind the words "mapped to" are "aligned with," and "align" can mean to bring objects into a straight line, which we see being the case on Nacht's graph of the Underworld and the Qliphoth in Chapter 263, page 7. They are arranged on a straight line on the Qliphoth.

In Chapter 202, pages 9-10, Zagred stated that he comes from a separate dimension, which we know is the Underworld because Liebe said "devils" are born in the Underworld in Chapter 268, page 1.

On Volume 22's Japanese cover, it states that the battle with Zagred, which took place in the Shadow Palace, a boundary between the Living World and the Underworld(Chapter 196, page 4), "transcended" time and space. "Transcend" can just mean to be or go beyond the range or limits of something. The fight that took place in this separate space(Chapter 182, page 10) went past the range of the space and time they were in. That gives the idea that the Shadow Palace, as a dimension, is a separate spacetime from the Living World, and so is the Underworld past the Shadow Palace.

But in Chapter 263, page 7, according to Nacht's graph of the Qliphoth and Underworld's layers, the layers of the Underworld are separated from each other in the same way the Underworld is separate from the human world(the blank white layer at the top of the panel), by space and time. And each layer is shown in relativity to the human world. So, the Underworld is Low Multiversal of itself. The layers are also shown being separate and equidistant.

Since the Qliphoth connects and contains the space and time of these parallel and equidistant spacetimes, due having an inaccessible form of movement they don't have, the Qliphoth would be considered higher-dimensional as it allows you to travel between the layers that are spatially separate. The layers are also separated by time, too. Time would also move in 2 separate directions not contained by 1 dimensionality of time. So, the Qliphoth is 6D, containing 4 axes of space and 2 axes of time.

Because Lucifero moved beyond the linear flow of time by fusing with multiple dimensions/directions of time all at once, and conventional speed can only be measured using 1 dimension of time, that would grant Lucifero immeasurable speed, and therefore anyone that scales relative to him immeasurable speed, too.

The Qliphoth is also partially made from dark magic, too. In Black Clover, spells are when magic power is used to create or manipulate the real phenomena the spells are based on. If you have a fire attribute, you make or manipulate real fire with your magic power. If you have a dark attribute, you make or manipulate real darkness. Darkness is simply the absence of light and is not a thing of itself, but nothing/not a thing. If you removed all of spacetime and any point and possible location that could exist in spacetime, light would be absent, meaning darkness would be present. Meaning darkness isn't just non-existence, but beyond-dimensional non-existence. So, the Qliphoth both partially exists and doesn't exist.

Round 1: Both characters are alone at their highest potential shown through the story.

Round 2: Langris is accompanied by Finral at his highest potential, too.

I think this match-up has good arguments for either side to a fair enough degree. What do you all think?

I said I was going to do this, I wanted to do this, so I'm doing this. Happy Sabbath day to everyone as soon as Friday's sunset hits and may this not be taken as glorification of devils because even the idol, a false god, ​is literally nothing as Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 8:4-7, so how much less of a thing are fictional devils and demons? This is just a debate over fictional characters. I also will say very clearly that I have not seen all of Maou Gakuin. However, it's not like I did no research before saying what I said. This post is mostly looking into Lucifero's physiology and asking how Anos can even do something to him.

Before the amount of power that comes into play, has anyone considered how Lucifero fused with the Qliphoth and what that actually means?

To get it the first part out of the way, the Qliphoth is a channel between both the Living World and the Underworld. It's a spatiotemporal channel that the layers of the Underworld are "mapped to" or "aligned" to, "align" meaning to place or arrange things in a straight line, and the Qliphoth is shown to have extent through them, too, meaning the amount of spatiotemporal directions the Qliphoth has isn't bound by simply being a connecting line between parallel spacetimes(I will get into how there are separate spacetimes) or something that has the same directions of spacetime we are familiar with, but has both. This would justify Complex Multiversal scaling with the context of the dimensions the Qliphoth contains consisting of at least 1 separate spacetime continuum and breaching the distance between it and a parallel spacetime continuum, too. Each layer is directly compared to the Living World(the blank white layer at the top of the panel above the Qliphoth's range). We know is talking about a separate dimension that is a spacetime continuum because not only did Zagred say he was from another dimension, but the fight that took place in the Shadow Palace, a border/boundary space between the Living World and the Underworld, was also stated on Volume 22's Japanese cover to have "transcended" spacetime. The translation says "time and space," but the kanji used is "時空間," which translates to "spacetime." "Transcend" can just mean to be or go beyond the range or limits of something and is not always talking about superiority. You can "transcend" the land by going to the ocean because that's beyond the range of the land. You can transcend spacetime by going to another spacetime becauee you went past the range or limits of a body of spacetime. The fight that went outside of the Living World went past the range of spacetime as soon as they went to this other dimension. The Shadow Palace and the Underworld are separate from the space and time of the Living World. So, the Qliphoth doesn't just exist spatiotemporally, it has Complex Multiversal scaling due to having a separate direction of space and time than normal spacetime continuums. It would be one of each because space and time don't exist without each other and are one object, according to General Relativity. So, having a direction of space and time each that are separate from the directions of spacetime that we know, there would be a direction of each.

Also, immeasurable speed is defined by movement unbound by the linear flow of time as VSBW has stated on its Speed page, and Lucifero fused with at least 2 directions of time at once, and linear time can only be contained by a single line of time or it wouldn't be "linear," Lucifero has immeasurable speed. It also adds up with how Lucifero was able to move in Lucius's Chrono Anastasis, which is the time spell Julius used to be able to stop and reverse time(Chapter 145). So, the fact that Lucifero was casually shown talking and moving his head, while dismembered, in a time stop at least supports the idea of him having immeasurable speed. So far, I genuinely think Anos is outscaled because the arguments i have heard to place him higher than 4D just don't seem to work in context. This also made a bit worse because Jack, who just adapted his magic to be able cut through Dante's gravity magic, and gravity is the curvature of spacetime, that would mean that Jack was literally cutting through spacetime, and Lucifero just handwaved those attacks away. Attacks that already slice through space didn't affect Lucifero. But I also have one more pressing issue that's way more important. The Qliphoth is partially world tree magic and DARK magic. Spells are when magic power is used to create or manipulate the real phenomenon the spell is based on. Darkness is not a thing of itself and is simply the absence of light. So, when dark magic exists, the spell is literal darkness, or the absence of light. If you remove all of spacetime so that light has nowhere to exist in and can't exist, because darkness is technically the absence of light, darkness would remain. So, darkness is technically not bound by spacetime or dimensionality. The Qliphoth exists as both a Complex Multiversal spacetime continuum and literally doesn't exist.

That nonexistence is a really big issue because we literally saw with Graham that, because of how destruction as an order(and by its definition) works as a concept is the reduction of something to nothing, Anos can't destroy nothingness. You can't conventionally destroy nothingness because their is nothing that is something to destroy. Because Lucifero both exists and doesn't exist, and that state of existence is from the part of him that is the Qliphoth, Anos has no way to destroy the Qliphoth. Therefore, he would have no way to destroy Lucifero. Anos has no win condition as the fight starts.

What about Lucifero killing or truly erasing Anos? How does Lucifero destroy his source? Well, we know that sources exist through spacetime bybthe fact that distorting time can affect whether or not one's source exists or not if it was supposed to be destroyed. So, you can remove a source from existence by removing all of the past, present, and future the source has. Lucifero has gravity singularities(he gave Dante his magic ability to be able to use them), which are infinitely dense regions in spacetime with no extent of spacetime themselves, and are theorized to be the end of spacetime that are 0D objects that pull in anything inside of spacetime down to 0D, too. If Anos was hit by one of these singularities, Anos would be indirectly erased by having the spacetime he occupies erased, removing him from the past and future.

Even if Anos had ways to counter a singularity of itself, from the way I see it, the big differences between the 2 are that Lucifero has more power than Anos, Anos has no way to destroy Lucifero, and Lucifero has a win condition against Anos, at least. Lucifero wins.

So, this post will go over why Yami should be scaled to what he destroys through Dimension Slash. This argument came from a friend of mine. My argument for why Yami scales to Dimension Slash is rooted more into what a hax is in the first place, what can be scaled and scaled to in the first place, and why someone should or shouldn't scale to their hax. But that's enough about my idea. This post presumes you know and understand the argument of Glamour World being infinite in size and Yami destroying it through Dimension Slash in the anime in episode 151, which Tabata supervised.

Firstly, let's establish something about dark magic. It is the complete opposite of light magic. While light magic is absolute in speed, dark magic, being it's opposite, would be extremely slow in comparison.

Licht explains how Yami is able to keep up despite dark magic being extremely slow in comparison to light magic. The reason dark magic is even able to keep up in speed with light magic is because Yami uses his physical force, amplified by magic power, to speed up his attacks.

Now, what is Dimension Slash slash? Dimension Slash is a strand of darkness that has spatial cutting properties. That's all.

After Zagred's Underworld spell leeched Yami's life energy out of him, Charla(the elf possessing Charlotte) healed Yami's arm. Only then did Yami say he can handle another Dimension Slash. Even when he uses Dimension Slash, he still requires his physical strength to use it in the way he does.

Yami also used the force he generated through DS to halt the boulder that Dante threw at him at high speed, proving again that if it didn't have AP, the force of the attack wouldn't have been negated, and the boulder would still be moving. This shows once again, just like any other slash Yami has, it generates power and would scale to him.

So, what about Dimension Slash Equinox, the attack used to destroy glamour world now does he scale to it? Yes, Yami would scale to it because what DSE comes from is using mana zone to generate a single strand of darkness with more magic power than Yami can normally produce. In the Glamour World fight case, Yami generated an infinite strand of darkness that traveled across the infinite space in finite time, which not only allowed him to cut the entire space, but also destroy it. We know it traveled due to it affecting both crystals during the captains match, too. So, yes, Yami would also have infinite speed since its speed would depend on Yami in the first place.