u/When1Falls

She behaves like someone possessed.

She talks about who she is when she's desperate for Bear's love as that being a different person.

And when she's on the phone screaming, it's pretty clearly supposed to imply this is what it sounds like inside of her head.

But, the most important line of the whole movie is: "Just because you chose this for her doesn't make it less real".

He doesn't say "what difference does it make" or something to that affect. He makes it clear that her undying desperare inhumanly extreme love for him is very much real, she's not just some robot puppet.

She's just still who she was but suddenly overloaded with an impossible level of love for somebody. When she breaks down saying she can't just be Nikki, that's not some demon literally explaining she can't be Nikki. That's Nikki explaining that she has to suppress her wants and thoughts and feelings because they're in the way of her loving him more than anything in the world.

She's like a drug addict that's addicted to Bear despite deep down wanting to quit, or someone deep in a cult/religion that they deep down know is bullshit but can't accept what letting that be true would do to her. She can't handle the insanity of both wanting to be who she was before he wished for this and who she has to be for him to feel the same way about her, so she basically has a psychotic breakdown where she looks at herself as two different people. But she's not ACTUALLY. She's just an extreme version of someone who's completely lost touch with who they were before becoming all consumed by needing to be whatever she needs to be to earn someones love, who knows that and handles it by talking about herself like the part of her that knows the truth is some other person in her head, flipping back and forth between treating those thoughts like a moment of clarity vs suppressing those thoughts.

The same way a drug addict trying to quit can have all these thoughts about why they want to and how they're not themselves anymore but then just not feel strong enough to power through the insanity of withdrawals

Doing my first honest start to end watch of the show I'm realizing that something l love about is that it seems like every single time someone makes any level of assumption of this show, it's always totally on the money.

This is so different than so many other shows that use misunderstandings and jumps in logic to manufacture drama in a sitcom-y type of way.

Nobody is stupid or blind to anything going on. And whenever someone takes a big swing on connecting a bunch of dots, they always seem to be right about it all the way down to everybody's motivations as to why they'd even do it.

This is so brilliant because it always means that the characters are truthfully dealing with all the real issues going on as opposed to ever having their time wasted. Even when the characters decide to accept things that we know is a lie, they do it in a way where you know they know they're just choosing the lie over the hassle of them both agreeing to accept the truth.

When Nikki outright tells him "Now's the time to tell me you like me" and Bear chickens out and says he likes her as a friend, so much of the understanding and relatability seems to land on how people get why Bear is afraid to admit it how women don't get how hard it Is for a man to make the move or to convince a woman they should be more than friends.

But almost no discourse I've seen picks up on the fact that Nikki is making the move here. She's not a benevolent Queen who's allowing her subject to speak freely just this once. She's literally saying "Tell me you like me and try to kiss me" that's a move.

And how is that move met? "Listen, we're such good friends"

She plays it off with confidence, but Bear just totally rejected her advance and friendzoned her. But, nobody seems to understand this idea that when a man decides to "stay in the friendzone" because hes too afraid of if he'd be rejected or lose her... he's friendzoning her too.

He's saying "I am perfectly okay with us never being more than friends". Unless she is just like "No, I'm a hot woman you want me, you're lying, you wouldn't even be talking to me at all unless you wanted to have sex with me" what other thing is she supposed to feel beyond "oh, this guy doesn't look at me as someone he'd want to be with romantically" and then handle that feeling.

The disconnect on this whole trope just seems to be the acceptance of "Well of course the guy is lying when he makes you think he just wants to be friends with you" while its just accepted that a woman is of course always telling the truth when they say the same thing.

Nikki says "make a move on me" and Bear says "but you're my friend" and Nikki laughs and is basically like "TOTALLY that's why l wouldn't have let you actually make that move and this was just a test to make sure you didn't want to make that move" and like, everyone just accepts that that's true and not her lying because she's panicking and embarrassed inside, but what Bear said is just obviously a lie, like Nikki is supposed to just brush off she's being called just his friend and be like "okay you said the lie that crushes me and makes me feel stupid, great, now be honest" instead of just assuming he was being honest with her that they're just friends that they shouldn't cross that line.

Nikki in that moment is literally dealing with what every friendzoned dude says is being done to them. Being told that it's friends or nothing, with the expectation being you'll choose friends with a laugh about how you must be a little too drunk or something with a little buddy punch to the shoulder.

Tldr- If you're a guy and you make a girl think you'd rather be friends than try and fail or be rejected as her partner... *you're* friendzoning HER into believing that's what she is to you. If you're scared she'll reject you as a lover, that's you literally telling her that you ultimately are pretty sure the two of you wouldn't work out, which is YOU rejecting HER.

She is just then supposed to get it that you're only rejecting her out of some kind of honor or fear when his biggest driving factor is that rejection towards him would destroy him to the point of paralysis. She's supposed to just take that same rejection and get it's just projection as oppposed to dealing with the exact feeling he's terrified of feeling. Accept it like a mentor dealing with an idiot and not just a person dealing with a person.

Ian & Bear looking at women like pawns in their life instead of like a person is set up in the very first scene where they have a woman sit there for Bear to try his speech on as if she's just a prop. Bear tells her every word he could've just told Ian, but they get a woman to sit there and just be talked to as if her just being a woman is enough to be the same as talking to Nikki. No, room for if Nikki will do anything but sit there quietly listening to the whole speech with a smile on her face until it's her turn to talk where it's then expected she will simply accept or reject Bear, based on if succeeded or failed to win her love through his speech.

The woman gives the only real advice either of them should've listened to "Just get her flowers, tell her you think she's pretty, and ask if she wants to go on a date" and they both dismiss her like she's an idiot that they're done playing with now and can leave.

Nikki & Ian were hooking up. They basically were secretly dating but weren't being honest with themselves and each other about it. So, Ian encourages Bear to tell Nikki because he's hoping she crushes his feelings which will then be what he needs to know to see if she's actually into him.

Ian was a better dude than Bear, but still ultimately an asshole who was playing games with Nikki & Bear by encouraging him to make a move on her, because it was really for his own reasons to see what she'd do, so he'd know what his next move should be on her, instead of just asking her.

From the moment this joke first plays out in DP&W even the most general viewer can clock that its if anything the set up for a joke where Thor doesn't know Deadpool can't die and so it's silly that he's crying over him.

It would be incredible if after years of this set up for a joke being out there and teased as eventually gonna be a funny callback, the twist was that no, Thor is legitimately crying over Deadpool actually dying, with Hemsworth not playing it as silly at all, retroactively making that joke in the movie a meaningful set up for something that ends up actually being important.

I chose Spoilers OK! to just open it up to everything but I probably just want hints really

I've got orange text and question marks next to:

1. Submerged Structure

~Sealed Vault

2. Endless Canyon

~Secret Mural

3. Shrouded Woodlands

~Secret Fireplace

I think l remember there being an invisible bridge l'd never actually found and walked across yet.

I think there was the fireplace l somehow just hadnt been back to yet before accidentally putting it down for 3 years.

Actually, I'm saying this and the film reels are playing.

It looks impossible to try to pick it back up though. You really gotta do this kind of stuff all at once.

Like the old US Civil War and WWII History Channel or PBS documentaries mixed with a bit of Tiger King and general true crime vibes, but all on HBO.

But with the freedom of the fact that this would be presented as an in world doc of a far future in that universe, which you'd imagine would probably be willing to show and go into a lot of graphic details, and maybe have extended scenes that are dramatized in just a very straight forward way, as opposed to the way we usually do things.

Since it's presented like an in world history book, that feels like it would've been more fun. Why can't we have more weird shit, ya know? A parody or a satire that's taken serious instead of being a goof. Everything's just gotta be the same kind of show.

Like the old US Civil War and WWII History Channel or PBS documentaries mixed with a bit of Tiger King and general true crime vibes, but all on HBO.

But with the freedom of the fact that this would be presented as an in world doc of a far future in that universe, which you'd imagine would probably be willing to show and go into a lot of graphic details, and maybe have extended scenes that are dramatized in just a very straight forward way, as opposed to the way we usually do things.

Since it's presented like an in world history book, that feels like it would've been more fun. Why can't we have more weird shit, ya know? A parody or a satire that's taken serious instead of being a goof. Everything's just gotta be the same kind of show.