Khandavaprastha genocide is the worst thing anyone has ever done in Mahabharata

Khandavaprastha genocide is the worst thing anyone has ever done in Mahabharata

There are many contenders of the worst thing anyone has ever done in Mahabharata. You may think the title might belong to Duryodhana, Dussashan, Karna, Ashwatthama, or even Yudhishthira.

But the crown actually goes to Krishna and Arjuna.

TV serials show very sanitized version of Khandavaprastha burning. Most of them can't show the reality behind this dark incident. In fact they make the residents of Khandavaprastha evil.

Khandava was the great forest where many tribes, animals, serpents etc resided. Long time ago Agni ate lot of ghee and got fat. Instead of suggesting him cardio, Bramha asked him to burn Khandavaprastha to be healthy again. But that forest was protected by Indra himself, so Bramha asked him to wait until Krishna and Arjuna are born as only they could fight off Indra.

Agni comes as Bramhan and asks them to help him eat (burn) the Khandavaprastha. And that's when they get Gandiva and Sudarshan respectively.

The most painful part as I highlighted is, when Agni started burning the forest, Krishna and Arjuna repeatedly killed the people, animals, tribals who tried to escape.

Actual living beings were scorched alive as you can read and they died yelling, crying.

They were weak, not even fighting or doing anything wrong, but so many lives were made fodder for Agni helped by Arjuna and Krishna. They repeatedly pierced them.

It's truly a genocide.

Indra came of course to defend along with all the gods, and got defeated.

Only 6 beings were left alive. One of them was Mayasur, whom Arjuna "spared", how kind of him!!

There are so many justifications of this event I have seen and never agreed with any one of them

1) It's what supposed to happen and Agni needed to be healthy again

One of the worst justifications of any act is the reliance on natural order. If natural order is supposed to be the criteria, then morality holds no value. Also, intention itself doesn't justify the task. Even if Arjuna and Krishna wanted to "help" Agni, they should have had their moral conscience to differentiate whether the task is morally right or not. Thanos's decision to wipe half of humanity was wrong, despite his intention being right.

Krishna and Arjuna were Nara and Narayana himself. It doesn't matter what Bramha or Agni or Indra says, they should take decisions independently and decisions which actually are morally right. How else they are different from elders of Kuru sabha who think natural order overrides moral responsibilities.

2) Those who got killed attained moksha

Well then the discussion holds no value. If merciless killing by God is justified because the bodies will attain "moksha" or because he is God, then there's no difference between a dictator and him.

3) They were rakshasas

There were mix of tribes, animals, rakshasas who were killed. And moreover, just being born a rakshas shouldn't be a criteria for being murdered for no reason. As long as they were in their own habitat not disturbing anyone, they don't deserve any punishment.

u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 11 days ago

AITK for calling out my sister for posting an AI edited photo of me

So this happened a while ago. On Rakshabandhan.

Well me and my sister had some pics clicked on that occasion. But I am conventionally ugly. So, my sister used AI to "fix" me so that it would be aesthetic enough for her story.

I saw her story and called out on how she edited the photo through AI changing my hair and skin and if she doesn't want to put my real face then don't bother putting me on social media.

She got angry saying it's just a photo and it doesn't really matter. And she edits the photo's brightness, saturation and sometimes few facial features on editing apps all the time. Using AI is just the same.

I am not insecure about my looks at all, but I don't want these morphs of me out there.

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u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 1 month ago

I hate how The Devil Wears Prada 2 just validates Miranda's abusive behavior

The original The Devil wears prada is one of my favorite movies ever. Despite knowing nothing about fashion, I found it deeply relatable as I started working in similar conditions as Andy and I had exact same boss as Miranda.

The original movie established it very well that Miranda is a bad person to work with and her idgaf nature doesn't excuses her rudeness and unrealistic expectations. Asking flights to be booked by a 20 something intern when national airlines are down, asking to somehow retrieve Harry Potter's unpublished editions is inhuman. Now, I enjoyed the character, but it's very clear of how toxic she is. Forget a thank you, she won't even acknowledge you.

The message I took from the original movie is, how Miranda tried to justified her own vile nature by saying Andy did the same and how she would end up exactly like her. And Andy proved she's wrong by leaving the firm.

Now, comes the part 2. Part 2 was as much focused on Miranda as it was on Andy. Part 1 was mostly from Andy POV.

Now, I expected from the movie to have a moment, where Miranda genuinely realizes that she's wrong and her actions bite her in the back. But that never happened, the first crisis happened because of mistakes of other people, the second because Irv's son was selling the company because his father died. Although these moments were down for Miranda, none of them happened due to her own mistake. These moments just made her powerless, but not quite enough to make her realize her smug nature.

Ultimately what does the movie potrray? Andy (rightfully) deciding to depict Miranda's action in the book. But no, then she feels it would be "wrong" for Miranda. Why the hell? She has made lives of so many people traumatic, promoted toxicity and set unrealistic standards, why exactly plot decides to give her sympathy. Simply because she's failing?

And the movie ends by Miranda ultimately winning, and the short convo she had with Andy in her car was also just more of his narcissism. Throughout the conversation, the writers conveyed, how Miranda's behaviour was okay because she had to sacrifice a lot to be in that position. Miranda doesn't truly feels regret. She rather feels, whatever she did she had to do, and there was no other option.

And I hate that message from my heart. No, you don't need to be inhuman, torture interns and steal opportunities from your colleagues to succeed in your career.

And funnily, they managed to make Emily, the villain out of it all, the poor girl who probably suffered a lot under Miranda (she's also a b too, just a bad person who was done bad)

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u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago

What writing decisions do you think made Stranger Things from one of the most influential shows to being forgotten and despised within months of its ending

It's no mystery that Stranger Things will age like milk. Despite having trash ending, Game of Thrones still remains popular and among top 20 most popular shows at IMDB but I don't think Stranger Things will enjoy that privilege.

And it's kinda crazy. Like this show for sure was influential, I didn't even watch it at time of Season 4, but still could feel it's impact.

And it's not even a year since the show ended, and already nobody talks about it, and any or all discussions about it are just negative only.

u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago

Funniest thing to imagine is Tom Holland actively supervising all the concept art books published and willingly asking to add an AI generated image of New York

u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago
▲ 45 r/Marvel

Fun Fact : Doctor Doom as a character appeared before Spider Man, about a month prior

u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago
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Why a Morbius X Spider Man film should NOT be made

While the thought seems interesting, I am severely against it. The implications of existence of this movie would be a catastrophe.

This movie would make so much morbillion dollars at the box office, that it would surpass the limit of numbers humans can process.

Such a rise in numbers might actually exceed infinity and break mathematics itself, which would cause collapse in physical laws, hence would tear down the very fabric of reality leading the universe to its ultimate annihilation.

Hence for sake of everyone's welfare, this movie should not be made

u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago

Wait, if in MCU, Spider Man is Iron boy Junior and Jean Grey is Spider girl junior then does that make Jean grey Iron man's granddaughter or something?

u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago
🔥 Hot ▲ 5.3k r/shittymoviedetails

Eternals (2021) is the one of the only marvel movies to feature a se x scene and it bombed heavily. This is because marvel fans found it extremely unrelatable

u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago

What is this weird obsession of some subs on trying to downplay Emma's performance by comparing it with Milly's?

I have lately seen a lot of subs specially on platforms like cough free cough folk cough which humongous likes on posts saying how good Milly's performance was and Emma is bad.

I mean no matter what you feel about the show and this season ( I personally think it's trash and they have butchered dance), but you CAN'T deny Emma has never missed a single scene. They have acted brilliantly.

Also, I loved Milly's performance. The tint of a rebellious teenager in her made me fall in love with her. But her performance can't be compared to her adult version simply because she was there for 5 episodes only and Emma has been for 19. Now that is not to downplay Milly. She was amazing in the part she was. But Emma clearly has a greater impact and a much more experienced actor. Their reaction at Jace's death is one of the best tv performances of all times.

Now this may be controversial but I feel like a major reason is Emma is not the "eye candy" some of these guys are looking for. If you know what I mean.

Of course, I am not generalizing that thinking Milly Rhae better than Emma Rhae means you have an incel mindset but most of criticism of Emma (like she's always crying all the time) just seems senseless and born out of spite.

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u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago

What do you think about HOTD S4 having a non-linear storytelling?

I saw this idea on one of the comments and I feel it's quite interesting. At this point, most serious watchers know the fate of Rhaenyra and some plot points are already spoiled by Haelena herself at end of Season 2. So, what do you think of S4 showing of different timelines simultaneously.

One of them could be regency of Aegon III. And how he's dealing with everything. Second can be Aegon's II short rule. Third can be everything which will happen to Rhaenyra till end of her arc.

Now this would benefit in many ways, firstly audience is not aware of Aegon III as a proper character, and with only 8 episodes, it would be difficult to set him up properly. Non linear storytelling would allow to flesh his character.

Also with this, in the final episode, we can see both Aegon's and Rhaenyra's end in the same episode making the story much more impactful as it was never about who won. And this way the makers can stretch the popular actors right up to the end without any compromise.

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u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago

While I loved and enjoyed the episode, we shouldn't forget that the story has been butchered already and due to absence of a single major piece, the story's end is not gonna hit the same.

This episode was a fresh breath of air after the previous boring monotonous episodes. Although imo this should have been like 6th episode or sm and the season should have ended with God's eye.

But never mind that, the absence of Viserys and Aegon has completely destroyed how the last episode of Season 4 should hit. And it can't be mended.

Aegon is the end of dance of dragons. A new beginning. Now, first of all in season 4 it would take several episodes to logically make him near Rhaenyra and even if he would become the king, general audience would feel they just brought a rando to sit on the throne. No better than Bran in the end of S8.

People don't realize how important the event of Aegon's guilt and how important him watching his mother die is, not just for the story but I would say it's one of the core events of ASOIAF. Daenerys in her first few chapters mentions that the little histories she know about her family, this was one of the prominent how one of his ancestor saw his mother dying. And mind you, George wrote very little about histories of Targs till then, so you can just imagine how important this event is.

And for that, seeing the relationship between Aegon and Rhaenyra becomes very necessary. In fact, I would say it should have been the focus of this whole season. Not irrelevant plots with Gwayne and Ormund, as much I love them.

Now, I would wager they are going to make Joffrey be the one who will see Rhaenyra dying, but it's their fanfiction as this point. Nothing we can complain about.

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u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago

Does anyone else feel Wonder Man was overrated? Didn't feel a bit like a Von Kavok's film

Like obviously, not talking about how this movie literally casted a te**orist. Everything for this movie was doomed since the beginning. And the whole thing on the set, explosion and all. Maybe that was the sign from God to not make this movie.

I loved the 80's wonder man because how grounded and realistic it felt. And see I am all about inclusion and everything but Simon Williams's take on character didn't work for me personally.

Don't why it's earning so much critical appraise. Instead can we create biopic about Steve Rogers instead??

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u/Wooden-Tear-4938 — 2 months ago