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I bought Brave back in 2015 when it was "all the rage" and wore it all the time, especially with Soar, a lip liner I still use today. Then I just kinda forgot about Brave in my collection, I bought other lipsticks I preferred and just didn't use it for a loooong time. Eventually, I decided to wear it again for the nostalgia, probably 2021 but when I opened it, it was dry and faded and looked kinda... lilac? I just thought "eww" and tossed it.

A few days ago, I was at MAC and wanted to buy a new lipstick but everything I wanted was sold out and I thought maybe I should buy Brave again. They didn't have a tester for it, it had been stolen the day prior and I decided to buy it without swatching it, since I had it before anyway. Then I used it with Soar and was pleased but feel like it looked different from back then? Like, I remember Brave as pink but this one is way more purple than I recalled. Is it just me?

Anyway, I still like it and want to use it but maybe with lip liners that might make it more pink and maybe more muted.

What do you all recommend? The liner does not have to be from MAC, just whatever goes with Brave.

Mine are:

- I actually like Tom. I think he's hilarious and I don't get the hate that he gets. Sure, he was insufferable and toxic on many occasions but they all were. He is literally the only husband who is not a convicted felon, not a cheater and never abusive to his wife. And with his faults, he still loves Lynette deeply and always stands by her.

- I did not feel bad for Gaby and Carlos when baby Lily was taken away. Firstly, they declined adopting a perfectly healthy baby because the mother was objectively very ugly. WTF? Secondly, they knew Libby was a lying, trashy person but kept chasing after her baby because she was pretty. Also, Eva's acting in this scene was terrible, which contributed to my meh feeling about it. Carlos' silent defeat was amazing, though, the realization that there is nothing he can do to keep the baby, and even if he could, he would never take a child away from a mother who truly wants it.

- I like Susan and I really don't get the hate she gets. Sure, she was sometimes toxic and insufferable, but again, they all were. She was not that bad of a mother (I feel like the people on this sub have no idea what bad mothers are like) and she wasn't nearly as desperate for a man as the show and this sub makes her out to be. She was single for over a year after Karl left her, she dumped Mike when she found out he was a convicted felon and never told her, she respected Mike's decision to dump her after finding out she lied about Zach, she was very hesitant to date Ian whilst Mike was in a coma, even though the doctors literally told her to move on, she was single for a long time after Mike divorced her and Jackson had to beg her to be her boyfriend and she had no interest in dating after Mike's death.

- I don't hate Gaby that much for calling ICE on Carmen. Yes it was horrible but she also realized it at the last minute and saved Carmen from them. She didn't want to lose another child and acted selfishly but she was also right that Grace WOULD have been better off with her and her family, rather than on the run from ICE with illegal immigrant parents with no money and no resources. I hate that Gaby lost Grace completely.

- I don't think Gaby is nearly as hot as the show makes her out to be. Yes, she is very pretty, but I think she looks cheap. Idk if this is unpopular, though, everyone I know who watches the show irl agrees with me.

- Bree was disgusting for having an affair with Karl, not because Orson didn't deserve it, but because Karl fucked over TWO of her friends. And right before this seedy affair began, she gave Katherine shit for dating Mike. "We are women and we don't do that" - and cheats on Orson with Karl a few episodes later and feels no remorse for it towards Orson, Susan or Edie. Bree also should have accepted some responsibility in how Orson changed. She insisted that he'd go to prison and then was embarrassed for him having gone to prison and acted like he didn't exist when she was publishing a book and establishing a successful company. She really didn't think this whole prison thing through, as we see when she scarfed down a glass of champagne at Orson's farewell brunch.

What are yours?

EDIT: Okay this thread was to supposed to be for fun, where people share unpopular opinions on the show and not debating mine. The post is literally UNPOPULAR opinions, which means that I actually know that most people on here disagree with me.

The last episodes of season 9, too. The Rachel and Joey relationship, the Charlie and Ross relationship, Mike having dated Precious for three months while Phoebe was completely hung up on him (he had a picture of Precious on his coffee table... that is pretty serious), Joey turned into a complete dumbass and got a super lame ending - a room above Mondler's garage? Are you kidding me? They should have given him a real ending, with him getting some amazing career breakthrough and a girlfriend. Bringing Kate back would have been 10/10.

Also, just generally terrible storylines. I didn't even like the episode with Christina Applegate and her season 9 episode is one of my faves. Everyone was SUCH an asshole to Ross and Rachel in Emma's birthday episode, Ross being dumped by Charlie for her ex AND DIDN'T EVEN GET THE GRANT WTF WAS THAT, everyone being late for Thanksgiving dinner after emotionally blackmailing Monica into making it, Joey speaking French and the Princess Consuela fiasco - just insufferable.

The atmosphere of the show had changed too, somehow. I usually skip season 10 on rewatches, just can't stand it.

For me it’s an even tie between Ross giving Chandler “the big brother talk” and Joey’s six month prank phone calls to Chandler.

Ross: I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND KICK YOUR ASS.

Chandler: Okay are you my friend again?

Ross: Yes.

Chandler: You won’t believe what Monica’s older brother just said to me.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The prank phone call was diabolical too. It’s even funnier in the unedited version.

Joey: You looked so good in the suit that your roommate picked up for you. 🥹

Chandler: For the love of god, leave me alone!!!

Whay are yours?

I remember thinking it was no biggie but my sister disagreed and Ross was embarrassed when Gunther told him he wasn't invited. Which was hilarious "Then... we'll see you the day after the wedding" LMAO David Schwimmer is so good with combining awkward as hell with comedy. So funny. But how do you feel about this?