u/frankydelobo
Mei voice line spam
Mei is awesome for her off tanking and weirdly overlooked dps threat (headshots so easy when you shoot projectiles the size of hanzo trees), but goddamnit, there's something about spamming MOOOO Hang in there OKAY yay!
Like... Its just funniest damned thing to me. I'm almost L30 for that alone and soon to have a new dps main.
No one is talking about the utter breach of trust by NetEase
You cannot take a character that remained static literally longer than any other character in the game and completely remove its identity, gameplay, and niche by replacing it with something completely different (let alone homogenized to the majority of its other characters in its class) without repercussions. People should be extraordinarily wary to invest any significant amount of time into this game for a single hero or even playstyle. With the Black Widow rework, it's apparent that NetEase doesn't give two shits about who is negatively affected if there's an indication a buck can be made with gooner skins.
Seriously, they give us a Legendary gooner skin a month before they take away the hero that wears it? Fuck those guys.
The typical responses to criticism of NetEase's choice in eviscerating Black Widow are echoed by, what appears to be new, unused or impertinent Reddit accounts, signifying a Chinese Water Army, read like this:
- Only 10 of you are upset.
- She was bad for the game.
- Her pick rate was bad.
The first is patently false. XLEK and Zazzastack had / have an extraordinary amount of followers to their streams. This strongly indicates there were more than a few people that enjoyed Black Widow as she was.
Secondly, Widow was a niche hero that was mastered by few, and those of us that dabbled to some success loved the hell out of her high reward, high-twitch playstyle. That feeling is unmatched by another hero in Rivals. The closest thing to that dopamine hit is Ashe from Overwatch, but her lack of mobility makes her less fun.
Lastly, pick rate was bad because she the community relegated her to the "throw" pick. This happened because she was fun enough to play when you didn't care about losing. People like their permanent history, so they don't wanna fuck up other characters. NetEase implicit created a community where throwing is normalized because they refuse to punish, either with heavy handed bans or performance indicators, these knuckle dragging troglodytes that log in and throw a few bucks for a jerk-off skin of Luna Snow.
The game was fun with Black Widow, but with that hero deleted, no more free passes. You shouldn't look past the shitty balancing issues anymore. Don't forgive their lack of community engagement. Be mindful of their anticheating services that collect god-knows-what from your computer. Distrust the traffic that finds itself in China. Deride their money grubbing and blatantly oversexed cosmetics. Take an objective look at their piss poor design philosophy that can apparently change on a whim, and ask yourself, "Do I really want to invest the time to compete in this game?"
Fuck NetEase.
Part 4: Cleaning the old man's agate collection.
Montana agates, mostly found between Billings and Miles City.
Part 3: Cleaning the old man's agate collection.
Bonus picture: Childhood favorite agate of mine behind a couple of bright LEDs.
My friend, Jim, and I found this rock outside Lake Inferior today. Might put it on my etsy store!
Part 2: Cleaning the old man's agate collection.
Most of these are rocks. Agates, likely. Know that by lookin' at 'em. That goofy rock in the top left appears to be a chunk of some iron ore.
Check out this 20.8lb Montana Moss Agate, my old man's best find.
Approx 6 x 7 x 9 inches. I believe he found this one outside of Billings.
Cleaned a few gallons of smaller agates. Got some nice stuff in here!
reddit.comMission Accomplished: First POTG with Juno
Took me three days, and only in QP (been drinking). But hey, it's going in the baby book anyway.
How on god's green earth do you get PoTG, let alone show up on mvp list?
reddit.comJust started playing Juno / Tips / Tricks / Bad habits to avoid?
I just started playing Juno cuz I like the character, and holy crap, she's a lot of fun. Ya'll got any advice for someone who usually plays DPS?
Does anyone with a season accuracy of 55%+ with old Widow actually like the change?
If you could reliably get 60% to 70% accuracy with Widow's old kit, you were probably finishing those games with highest final kills and farmed yourself gobs of MVPs/SVPs. You probably had that screenshot-worthy run of quickplay games with 10 wins and MVP. We all had those and posted them here. They felt good and validated you. With the kick stun and mobility, you could switch from flanking to peeling and be a hero. You had no fear of most heroes in a 1v1 situation. You felt like you knew some big fucking secret with Widow that others "just don't get" and you were okay with the chat abuse, because you kept winning anyway.
If that was you, what on God's green earth makes this rework of any value to you when you had a hero that expressed your talent in her niche? How can you possibly do any better with this new kit?
The BW authority, XLEK: "Black Widow is a throw pick. Literally the worst hero in the game."
gg NetEase.
After two hours of play, my final thoughts on Widow's rework
tl;dr It was a good run. Thank you r/blackwidowmains for being both the kindest and most skilled players the Marvel Rivals community had to offer.
Context:
400 hours on Widow. 80% pickrate. Peaked Diamond 1. I chose her entirely due to her mechanics and feel, as it's most like classic shooters, Quake 3 Arena or Unreal Tournament. I like railguns and highly rewarded accuracy. I'm old, but I like what I like. You didn't have to be god tier to enjoy her. You just had to be good enough to feel good about playing her. She was my best DPS even before I dumped the hours into her. She is why I bought Season passes and played Rivals.
Thoughts on rework:
- Aiming change
- I track well enough, but I'm better at flicks. This is why I like snipers. I kill more easily with them. Widow no longer plays to a strength of mine.
- Major damage nerf
- Her ttk is awful. She could previously erase nearly all non-tanks in .8 seconds with a pair of head shots or head / body shots, with or without ads.
- She's going to have a very bad time against heroes with self heals. I mean, shucks, I see Widow losing nearly all 1v1 neutral situations against equally skilled players on nearly all other heroes.
- Major mobility nerf
- The new unlimited sprint is clunkier, slower, and no longer allows you to jump as high. I would rather have it on a resource meter if it provided impactful gameplay 33% of the time than be meaningless 100% of the time.
- Too many map areas are now completely inaccessible because of the nerf. This has affected most of my rollouts and timeliness and effectiveness in flanking compared to her old kit and other flankers.
- She can no longer kite jump tanks or melee characters.
- Her ability to work above front line tanks to secure backline kills is all but eliminated.
- Grapple no longer provides meaningful stuns.
- This eliminates her threat in peeling, reduces effectiveness in flanking, and renders her utterly impotent in defending herself.
- The new ult is terrible in context of her old kit
- We had unlimited ADS bullets previously. Now we get six every two to three fights.
- Plasma Burst did respectable damage and slowed opponents for easy cleanup. It also helped get cheeky people behind corners (now officially patented by Cyclops)
- Widow requires more coordination and team play to be provide value for the team.
- How exactly does this make her more accessible to new players or casuals?
- Other heroes will provide more value with the same coordination and team-play
- Anything Widow can do, Hela/Phoenix/Cyclops/Psylocke/Frank can do better, now true.
- What exactly makes Widow the best pick in any situation against any hero for any purpose? This isn't rhetorical.
Widow has undergone a complete change to her role, mechanics, applicability and usability. The rug has been completely pulled from under Black Widow mains. This hero's identity, purpose and niche has been erased. This is a personal, emotional complaint; one of feeling unvalued as a player by the developer, and one of disgust and contempt for the Marvel Rivals community's malicious responses to our discontent.
As I finish typing this, rivalsmeta has Black Widow with an impressive 17% pick rate. Regrettably, she's sitting at a 39% win rate, second to last behind Moon Knight's 38%. Other heroes upon release fared better than this, even Jubilee currently at 43%.
Pity. I had a lot of fun with Widow / Rivals. I'm out. Au revoir, fellas!
Hit my goal: 400 hours on Widow before Endgame. I hope we all feel better tomorrow!
Pulled off a murder/suicide with grapple. Glad this is still an option.
Last night. What's everyone doing?
I have 2.5 hours to go to hit 400 hours on Widow. Off to a good start, but only vibing in QP. 4 outta 5 so far.
Is it a bot brigade? wtf is going on here.
I'm seeing all these wild crazy arguments of people doubling down on their interpretation of Black Widow as never being a sniper, doesn't fit the role, is now finally accessible to everyone, was just a Widowmaker clone (laughable since they're totally different), etc., poor pick rate, high loss, rate, etc. We know the latter. We understand the skill required to bring value with Widow. People are gaslighting this community to make us doubt what our favorite color is and what should or should not belong on a pizza. Same repeated points, over and over and over.
Like, why? Why do real people care to this extent? It's not their toy being taken away. They have no pony in this race. Why squelch the criticism on the main fuckass sub, delete posts, downvote to oblivion? There's no actual discussion. It's all demeaning snarky shit that trivializes real concerns from people losing their favorite hero.
The blatant lies, misrepresentation, harassment, and garbage being vomited in the comments of this front-page thread is what this game and community has become, folks. Again, is this shit even real?