A lot of players in low ranks are sometimes vocal in voice chat asking people to switch characters or play a certain way. Sometimes the advice is bad but sometimes not. At what rank do you think you should actually try to work with your team instead of muting voice chat?
For further context, the last season I played (8.5 or something like that) I was GM2 playing tank (Thor, Strange)
This season, I’ve been stuck at D1 for the last few days playing Mag 80% of the time
There’s been quite a few games recently where they just feel completely unwinnable.
I think I play well. I have good positioning, I have good (key) ult tracking, I am aware of where enemies and friendlies are and their intentions/what they’re doing/aiming to do, I know who to target and when, I land most of my counter ults, I bubble my team when needed 90% of the time
Sometimes I’ll just be absolutely struggling against a comp like Bucky, wolv, Emma, Angela, but that doesn’t happen most games
An issue I can think of is, sometimes I’ll see a good opening to kill supports with mag teamup and I’ll advance on them, only to turn around and see my entire team being hung up by something(likely a single person) but this doesn’t happen very often because I do have a habit of turning around every few seconds to check my team
I need help guys. I geniunely feel like I deserve to be in C2-C1 ranges
I know there isn’t much that can be said without actually viewing my games, but any advice from high GM/Celestial+ players would be very much appreciated
I used to be a gm tank player and I was able to even carry in my rank in gm2 or gm1 just one or two seasons ago. And now I made a new account this season to learn Magik and start playing the game from a lower rank after a break from playing on my main, and I can’t even make it to diamond…
Hey! I just wanted to thank the people of this subreddit for helping me and VOD reviewing, after starting the season with 8 losses in my placements and an 11 game loss streak I ended up silver II. And then, in the new half season, I decided to give it another shot and ended up all the way in Diamond with a 55% WR. So thanks to anyone who helped me, I think I can officially call myself "pretty decent" at MR. (and yes, I was 99/100 on Plat I before this game :D)
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In this match, I mostly play Elsa Bloodstone but also end up playing Hawkeye towards the end. I felt that I was losing the mirror match up, however I'm not a very experienced poke player, so I also don't exactly know what went wrong. I mostly flex, but I decided to lock in DPS this round. I haven't played much Elsa Bloodstone (Neither Hawkeye), this is my first season using her. This match was very close, but ultimately I was unable to close it out.
Preface - A Healthy Disclaimer
Before we start, this is advice specifically for players trying to climb through Bronze, Silver and Gold. I'm not a GM, Celestial or Eternity player, and I'm not pretending to be one.
I previously reached Platinum in Season 2.5 before deranking and spent roughly the last year playing primarily through Bronze, Silver and Gold. This season I climbed from Bronze 3 back to Platinum 3, including Bronze 3 to Gold 2 during the first half and Gold 2 to Platinum 3 during the second half.
I'm a Vanguard/Strategist main, primarily playing Doctor Strange and Cloak & Dagger, with Lord proficiency on both. I've spent enough time in these ranks to recognize the problems that repeatedly kept me there and, more importantly, what I changed to finally climb back out.
These aren't universal rules. They're things that worked for me and lessons I learned from spending a ridiculous amount of time in low ELO. Results will vary depending on your mechanics, hero pool, game sense, role, platform, teammates, etc.
If you're currently hardstuck Bronze or Silver, don't expect to read this and suddenly play at a Platinum level. Some of these strategies require practice, learning additional characters, improving awareness and understanding the game beyond your main.
I'm also not writing this as advice for Diamond+ players. Y'all have Rival's College covered already. This is for the Bronze, Silver and Gold people I don't see asking for nearly as much help.
With that out of the way, here's what helped me get back to Plat.
Chapter I - Carry Your Way Out: Bronze & Silver
Simply put, in these ranks you have to rely on yourself. If you are a tank player in Bronze and Silver, it's just too much effort to trust your healers and DPS. I found that going DPS in Bronze and leaving us with one healer or no tank helped. Going namor and having the automatic teamup is a huge plus. Low ELO players aren't shooting squids or even look for them.
Trusting healers is next to none in these ranks. This is the next big thing I found. Can't trust healers to heal and deal with dive. Can't trust the tanks to push enough. I've carried games with a good healer. Pushing up. Making sure the team doesn't die. Sustaining dive. Etc.
Chapter II - Welcome to Gold. Learn the Ban Game
Here is where I start to see a lot of people get stuck and confused. Gold now opens the doors for bans and things get tricky.
First, you now need to know how to flex. Bronze and Silver is the best place to get this figured out on what other characters you like. By now in Gold you should know how to play two characters in each role at the least. The last time I played the game before the break I took there were only 4 bans. Now there are 6. OTP won't work as well here.
Secondly, BAN for the map and meta. Not for what you don't want to play against. The amount of times I've seen people ban characters that didn't make sense was plenty. Peni should be top banned on Domination maps and convoy/convergence maps that are narrow. Think Arakko convoy, symbiote convergence and Fantastic 4 convoy. Iron Man should always be banned on maps with open skies. Loki convoy, Arakko Domination. Symbiote Domination. Squirrel girl should be banned on maps she can hide in corners and spam nuts. Central park convergence, Arakko convoy, fantastic 4 convoy. Why are we banning spiderman on Arakko convoy? He's not even a top pick on that map. Peter is however. Ban him ASAP. Why are we banning Iron man on fantastic 4 convoy? The streets are too narrow and there are plenty of second story areas to camp on. He is a great ban for Central park convergence and symbiote. Ban picks based on map pick rate and not based on who you don't want to play against as a top priority. Then maybe who you don't want to play against.
Chapter III - Strategists: Learn to Survive
Yes I said it. I'm a second main healer after first main tank. I get it. I understand. But how you deal with dive also determines team fights. Complaining about no help doesn't help.
You need to learn how to sustain getting dived long enough to have your team get to you from peeling. STOP running backwards when you are getting dived. What does that accomplish? Stand your ground and sustain or run TOWARDS your team. This way it gives people a quicker opportunity to get to you and if you run in the line of fire of team fight, chances are they will get hit from that. Mantis or Luna? freeze them and run towards your team while damaging them. Rocket, Dash to your team or wall run. Cnd, bubble your self, turn to cloak mode and get the kill
Chapter IV - Protect Your Rank: Know When to Stop
It may sound simple, but this is very hard for people. Playing a lot of games back to back in the day can create fatigue. Revenge playing to make up for losses can create bad gameplay as well. Knowing when to turn the game off is actually helpful. Preserving your rank is very important
For me, when I have three losses in a row, I stop playing competitive for the day. If I have 2 losses and a win. I get off for some time. I come back that day. If I have 2 losses, I get off. If I have a loss and a win. I get off for some time. I come back that day. If I have a loss, I'm done with comp for the day.
Any new rank I achieve for the season that I haven't previously achieved for the season enables me to stop playing comp for the day.
New season weekend launches I don't play comp (Fri-Sun). I tend to have the worst games because people are instalocking a character they never practiced on. Yes I still get the same stuff the following week, but not as bad. What happens is someone will go the new character, then swap to what they typically play...
When I win a game, I stop playing comp for an hour at a minimum before coming back to the game. So if in a session I won the first game. I'm done for at minimum an hour.
I typically don't play over the weekend either. But that's just a personal thing. Do as you please with that. I do feel like the less I play, the more better games I have. I'm not going to mention the 4 letter acronym here. But I've seen it happen to me more often than not. But it could also be less fatigue and less revenge playing helping me have a clearer view on gameplay.
Chapter V - Don't Quit the Match
There was once upon a time where the point system kind of sucked. But after some updates they did in fact fix this. Individual performance is heavily weighted. I've been guilty of rage quitting. But try to stick it through when fights are one sided and you're clearly losing. What tends to happen is that you lose less points. Keep playing good, don't give up. I tend to believe the game will say such a good performance out classes the rest of the team even in a loss and will work to determine that you aren't meant to be in the rank. Which will then pair you with other people that need to rank out or will give you a one sided game to rank out.
Arguing the theory on this isn't the goal. Not giving up even in a loss is the takeaway message. Again, I'm guilty of rage quitting in lower ranks. Hell even gold. Those games were just hard to bare. But if you can, don't give up. Keep focusing on your individual gameplay. And let the game see you don't belong in such a rank. This way you lose less points during losses and win more points during wins. -16, -17, -14 to +30-+40
Chapter VI - Team Composition is More Than Roles
Bronze and Silver I won't stress much on this due to players inability to understand this. But Gold things start to get tricky and understanding team composition at queue screen is important. Let's give some examples.
When I see a Thor and Deadpool tank, I know we lost. We have no front line tank. Thor will flank. Deadpool will camp and rely on guns. No one is contesting point.
We have a solo mag and three DPS that never need to be on point because they are all hitscan. We lost. No one is contesting point. Mag isn't an aggressive tank.
If we have a solo shield tank, and 3 DPS, provide at least one DPS to help the tank. I call these tank busters. That's your wolverine, Mr. Fantastic, Scarlett, etc. These are characters that can help front line brawl with your tank. They aren't really meant for flanking, but can if used right. Although easiest way to use them in low ranks is to help your solo tank.
People don't understand the concept of either trading back lines or protecting backline. Learn this concept. Don't wait until first round loose sweep to now go second tank. Understand that after a couple of lost fights or based off first fight enemy composition you may need that second off tank or shield tank to block hitscan pressure.
Chapter VII - Awareness: Please Just Look Up
This might be one of the most important sections but also the easiest to understand. The lesson...simply just look.
Look up at that uncontested flier in the sky. Turn around to that black panther diving. Notice punisher or squirrel girl camping. Go to the scoreboard to see who is dying the least on the enemy team and your team. Understand why in game.
You know the enemy team has a BP. Killing them once...okay. but not positioning yourself to anticipate him coming back to your backline is reckless. They haven't swapped. They are still selected. So why did you move away from your backline. Why is everyone spread out?
Again....simply just look.
Chapter VIII - Practice. Review. Practice. Review.
Just as stated, practice and review. Go into the practice range, custom vs AI, and practice vs AI. Play characters you are trying to get better at. Spawn characters you are trying to get better fighting against. Custom make teams based on compositions you have trouble against.
Review is also a fun one. Watching higher elo players is great for tips and tricks. But they are thinking in terms of high elo. Not low Elo. In your games identify players that are really good on your team or enemies. Go to their profile history and watch their games based on the characters you are trying to get better at.
Lastly, play as many characters as you can in the practice range. Nothing beats knowing their actual abilities, cool downs, etc. and using that against them when you are fighting them. I've gotten better with matches against magik as cloak due to me playing her kit and knowing how she works. Same with Spider-Man and other tank players. Mag can bubble and shield all he wants. They don't last for long and afterwards he has nothing else....melted. Magik portals in the direction she's facing....melted. Peni has 2 web stuns. You get the idea.
Conclusion
As stated this is just to help Silver-Gold. Save the post. Come back to it. And happy playing/ranking up.
I have games sometimes where the enemy is running multiple different comps of brawl, poke or dive. So a thought going through my mind is who exactly should I be swapping for when playing tank? Like do I swap to counter the tanks or do I swap to counter the dps? The reason is because sometimes when they are running multiple comps in different roles, im not sure who is the most important one I should be concerned about when in comes to swapping.
I'd really like to learn Bucky and add him to my dps pool cause I heard he was a very stable character to have. I'm not sure HOW to play him though. Idk how to do his hook tech or the little nuances of his kit or which teamup is generally the better option or which one I should pick with whatever playstyle I do.
Does anyone have any tips for me? Any videos I could watch to get a better grasp of his character? I recently hit diamond playing Widow/Psylocke/Elsa.
Hi,
I want to get better at the game and feel like coaching is best for me so I can get a grasp of everything I’m doing wrong to make my sessions far more intentional than they currently are.
I’ve looked into a few coaches, but I feel like TrqstMe is kind of perfect for me because I only play the tank role. I’m curious though if anyone has done personal coaching with him or at least joined his academy. If so, what does a session look like?
Any insights are appreciated.
I'm a tank main who's looking to find a support that wouldn't be super jarring to learn coming from tank. I main Mag, Thing and Hulk, with some Strange here and there. DPS flex I play Namor or Wolverine (although still learning him). I've played C&D and Ultron the most, but couldn't quite get them to click for me. I'm open to any suggestions or tips.
At first I was trying to just use shield tanks to do it but learned that isnt really how that works. Im hearing dive tanks like Venom, Angela, and Captain America is what is used to counter heavy poke comps. My problem is whenever I try diving in, the enemy team all turns back to heads to me who is diving someone then I will usually explode super fast. So I dont get exactly what my goal is when Im trying to use a dive tank.
Diving seems so risky because if Im diving someone who is by themselves, they will simply reposition or the enemy will move to save them so I failed to kill the enemy and just end up feeding.
Edit: Okay, from what I seen from what yall say, I need to be more careful and that getting value by distracting them can be more then enough then just getting kills alone.
I started playing this game a couple of seasons ago (transferring over from Overwatch) and have been playing mainly support. Although I've been able to climb to diamond/GM, I feel like a lot of my games come down to who has the better duelist. I believe my positioning is good, as I usually get low deaths, but I wonder if it's perhaps because I play support with low kill potential. I main Mantis, who I have the best luck with, as I find her similar to Zenyatta from Overwatch. I also play CND, Loki and Rocket. I'm thinking of learning Adam and Luna just to be able to secure more kills. I'm more than happy to take any advice and to share my profile or any replays. Thank you so much :)
I have a good bit of people on this game friended through playing matches together but I never actually Join them to que matches. I was thinking of doing this cause going through diamond solo has been hell and my friends who do play this game are way too low ranked😔
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I put three games that were fairly recent, I have been on a bit of a losing streak. For about the last week I have been sitting in gold 3 to silver 1. I play mag mostly. I just really want some advice on how to get better. I don't wanna be the guy dragging the team back. I feel like a losing streak like this must mean I am doing something very wrong, I just want to have some help pinpointing it. I do solo que. Any help I can get would be greatly appreciated, thank you for taking the time to read this. ❤️
I mean that I want to understand everything, like why is a cool good or bad, and why is this positioning good or bad, and what is my job in every game and stuff like that. Any videos about that?
This may seem like a weird question, but I can't help but notice a significant difference in skills playing at the start of the season versus playing at the middle of the season, and even larger skill gaps between the start of the season and the end of the season. This is just so freaking weird because it makes ranks look cosmetic(well, more than it already is). When I got to GM3 at the end of a season, the percentage was only 89%. But when I got GM at the start of the season, the percentage was like 95%. So clearly at the start of the season the "real rank" is 1 to 2 skill tiers higher than the cosmetic rank you are shown. So when do the ranks actually settle in(like, GMs all get back to GM, the celestials all get back to celestial, eternity/OAA players all get out of celestial)?
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I’m at player level 30 and have been playing consistently for maybe a month or less. I’ve been maining Venom (level 15) and started using Rogue (level 6). I play Jubilee if the team needs more healing (level 5) and Namor to counter dives (level 6 I think). I feel like I’ve gotten the hang of general gameplay and I like to look up guides for the characters I play but I often times feel lost during matches. I have a bad tendency to over extend or try to flank and get demolished. I’m semi decent at diving and escaping as venom and can get some rare flank kills on supports with rogue. I can manage a couple of mvp and svp and the occasional medal but I want to do better and consistently feel like I’m being useful and not just fighting for my life. I think my main issue is positioning when playing my aforementioned characters and how to be of most use to my team. I’m new to this style of game; I played OW for like a week and hated it because I always prefer playing apex but I’ve genuinely been enjoying Rivals.
Im searching for Books ,that helps me to understand the Game in a deeper level.Does anybody read or know a Book ,that is not only with basic hero specific tipps,please let me know.Also if you have some sources ,that helped you to achieve a deeper understanding send it.Thanks
I haven’t played ranked since season 7 but am going back to it with a friend who is relatively new to the game. Who are the meta heroes this season and what comp is best? I know poke is strong right now but have no idea who specifically is best and whether triple support is still good.
I play support and my friend plays dps.