Lets say for an algo with a capital of investment 4lakhs, the win rate is around 52%, and there are three ways you can run it,
-monthly ROI 12% with 3.75% DD
-monthly ROI 38% with 6% DD
-monthly ROI 31% with 7.5% DD
Is it the win rate or ROI which attracts people towards algorithmic trading? I have seen that some have really good win rates and obviously win rates look good to the eye and I have seen good ROI also, what would you choose?. Institutional grade algo systems have win rate of around 25 percent, which might seem very low but with their 100s of millions of investment they make 6 to 7 ROI an year, which is a lot if you think about it. If you're someone who uses algo or have investment in any, why did you choose it?
I'm a student currently working on a project, I got some investors but I need to backtest this and it's a huge project it's taking so much time, if I have claude code it'll be so much easier to do it that way, if anyone can please DM me😭
Hey guys ik there is a lot of scams going on and because of that alot of people might even find this post suspicious, I'll be honest here and if you're interested please do DM me. I'm an Engineering student who have been working on an algo project for a long time now and finally it's showing sign of returns, I'm currently backtesting it but it has been running on paper trading in live market for almost a month now, if I can attach excel sheets here I'll do that so the paper trades are visible. I haven't tried to get investments before and idk where to find the right people. If you guys can, please let me know what all data I should showcase in front of an investor, like backtesting report of 2 years etc. What I was thinking was if anyone like to invest they can put money in their broker acc and give me their api key and I'll use that in my system, and I'll run the system from my side and trades will be taken in their acc and profit will go to them and then afterwards the profit can be split into 50-50. I believe there is no safety issue in this because the investor don't have to give me the money, they can keep it in their account, if there is any safety concern regarding this please let me know. I'm not trying to scam anyone, I'm being genuine and if anyone likes to know more about it you can DM me.
I need last 2 yrs of DAX LTP data, 5 second time frame would be perfect but if not even 1 min or 5 min is fine. If you know where I can collect this data from please lmk. Thank you.
I need last 2 yrs of DAX LTP data, 5 second time frame would be perfect but if not even 1 min or 5 min is fine. If you know where I can collect this data from please lmk. Thank you.
I need last 2 yrs of DAX LTP data, 5 second time frame would be perfect but if not even 1 min or 5 min is fine. If you know where I can collect this data from please lmk. Thank you.
Currently working on an algo which trades Nifty and BankNifty, but im unable to backtest it. I have never backtested before and not sure where i can get all these data from, i will list all the data i need below and if anyone knows from where i can get this or to even mimick some of these values accurately that would help alot
* **5-Minute Index OHLC Candles** (Nifty / Bank Nifty) * **Live Spot Index Prices** * **Live Index Futures Prices** * **Live Futures VWAP (ATP)** * **Real-time Option LTP (Sub-Second WebSocket Ticks)** * **Live Options Chain Data** (Strikes, Expiries, Tokens) * **Live ATM Implied Volatility (IV)** * **Live Option Delta & Gamma** * **Live VPIN** (Order Flow Toxicity Feed) * **Live DAX Index % Change** * **Live India VIX**
Currently working on an algo which trades Nifty and BankNifty, but im unable to backtest it. I have never backtested before and not sure where i can get all these data from, i will list all the data i need below and if anyone knows from where i can get this or to even mimick some of these values accurately that would help alot
I read an article saying futures affect Nifty and Nifty affects its option premium but looking at it side by side i dont see any difference, im a noobie. What do you see here, how do you read anything out of this?
Im someone whos been paper trading using an algo bot, im doing kind of okay for now. I use indicators in my strategy like EMA and RSI, when i connected with some traders and told them i use indicators they were like it wont work, most people were being negative about it and someone even said my bot wont work at all. I dont know if these people are real traders but i saw their post in reddit claiming huge P&L's and thats why i texted them.
I never back tested my bot and from people i got to know that i should, but im forward testing on most of the days. Im using SmartAPI to get real time data and my bot has been trading. From data collected from SmartAPI, my bot finds EMA and RSI and also a three bucket rule to choose trades. The bot also collects greeks, volume to find volume buy and sell ratio and also finds that days bias using news, fii/dii flow and where other markets heading and using all these data is my bot running. I have also thought of adding some other things to identify to find buy n sell ratio in market but i couldnt yet and more over i didnt do it because i thought my bots working pretty fine for now.
From the beginning its been working pretty well but the problem was identifying when to sell and i had a hard time because of it, i started manually exiting using commands and i was making profit everyday. The bot is able to find the trend but my logic for selling was poor and it ended up being in red after being in green for long. So i started using trail SL but even that wasnt going so well, i used a 4% behind trail and these hit the SL really fast.
I was running this program in my pc all along, i have to run it my pc in the morning and need to keep my pc on till evening which was a hassle. Two days ago i put in a cloud server where i got some credits for free, idk how itll end up but now its running all the time, i dont have to start it during market hours, itll run on its own. I have enough credits for around 3 months, Im thinking of running it for 3 months and seeing how it goes. All the data is being saved in an excel sheet so after 3 i can analyze and find out what happened ig.
A person who claimed to be making around 50 lakhs every week using his algo said mine wont work at all which kinda made me feel bad, idk if hes actually genuine but im also just trying to earn something. Adding screenshots of my logs before i updated my trail SL problem. Itll run on cloud from tomorrow and im very exited to see. The new logic is when profit hits 10 percent of principle amount, SL is shifted to 7 percent and when profit hits 13% SL is moved to 10 percent and trailing SL turns on with 4% trailing behind. Initially the SL is kept at 15% of principle amount.
Ill add the screenshots below,
from 1 to 7 is when there was i had problem with SL, initially when the trade used to be in green making profits but it never hit target so it went down and hit the 15 percent SL and made loss from that, and when i had implemented trail SL because of only 4% trail there was not enough space for the values to breathe and it would go hit it. After this i implemented manual exit in my bot and when 10 percent of profit was made in each trade i exited thats what the profit you see from 8 to 12. New logic has been added like i mentioned above but i dont think its good enough, any algorithm or any logic suggestion would help.
I collect data like this automatically at entry and exit,
Initially when i started i gave the wrong lot size which led to wrong lot size measurement from quantity so i know the pnl would have some changes but being able to make profit or finding trends regardless of the lot size is impressive i think, forgive me if im wrong. I fixed it now and now its proper, even some trades made in the last three traded days i used proper lot sizes. If you look closely you can see alot of manual exit and most of the manual exit made money and where as alot of trail sl made loss and likewise every data will be collected.
The alerts of taking trades and sending commands is being send through telegram because its free and fast,
Some people before asked me if they can see how it works so i made another channel to send the same messages to that, if anyone is interested i can add you guys for free.
Any suggestion or tip would help alot guys, im hoping for the best from tomorrow.
It was a good day, the bot was able to take good trades hold it and end it in green.
Even though there are more losses at the end of the day I'm in green. I'm thinking of reducing losses by adding some new strategy. Any suggestions from your experience?
The OptionsAI system is a smart options trading bot built for Nifty and Bank Nifty that focuses on taking only high-confidence trades. Instead of relying on just one indicator, it combines chart analysis, options data, and overall market sentiment before entering a trade. The bot mainly works on 5-minute candles, but it also checks the 15-minute trend to avoid trading against the bigger market direction. It usually trades ATM or near-ATM options because they are more liquid and react well to index movement.Its decision-making works through a “Three-Bucket” system:
Technical Analysis – checks momentum and trend using indicators like RSI, EMA crossover, VWAP, and volume spikes.
Options Chain & Greeks – analyzes Delta, Implied Volatility, and Open Interest to see whether the option has strong movement potential and institutional participation.
Market Sentiment – tracks broader cues such as Gift Nifty, FII/DII activity, and global markets like the S&P 500 and Nasdaq.
A trade is taken only if at least two of these three areas agree and the confidence level is above 75%.
The system also has strong safety filters. It avoids trading during highly volatile or extremely slow markets using India VIX and ADX checks. It also skips the first 15 minutes after market open to avoid random price swings.
Risk management is a major part of the strategy. Every trade has a controlled stop loss and a target with at least 1.5:1 reward-to-risk ratio. Only a small portion of capital is used per trade, and if losses become too high for the day, the bot automatically stops trading. After multiple consecutive losses, it becomes more selective and enters a “Defensive Mode.”
Finally, the system includes a nightly learning process. At the end of each day, it studies which signals worked best and adjusts its thresholds for the next session, helping the strategy adapt to changing market conditions automatically. I've used AI to fix grammar and make it look good, thankyou.
I have been running it for few days and it's looking good, I'm a programmer myself who's been looking at markets for a long time. I have traded manually before and from my experience I created this and it's been looking good. My bot have been paper trading using real data from the market, I have cross checked the data and it looks legit. I'm looking for someone to invest so I can use this bot in real market. If you're interested or want to know more about this, dm.
Bot started running around 9:30, it was taking a lot of trades which ended up in loss, and with proper stop loss I was marking around 1.5k loss on most of the initial trades. Even though it was making profit in mid trades, since it's running on its own it won't stop the trade until it touches the profit mark, so it made most of the losses because of that problem. Afterwards in the afternoon it came back forward and took the PnL from the negative to the positive side. I felt like the market would be indecisive after that huge run, so I paused it manually.
I'm testing my algo trading bot with paper trading on the live Indian market, and when testing is done I'm looking forward to executing it with my own trading account.
Bot started running around 9:30, it was taking a lot of trades which ended up in loss, and with proper stop loss I was marking around 1.5k loss on most of the initial trades. Even though it was making profit in mid trades, since it's running on its own it won't stop the trade until it touches the profit mark, so it made most of the losses because of that problem. Afterwards in the afternoon it came back forward and took the PnL from the negative to the positive side. I felt like the market would be indecisive after that huge run, so I paused it manually.
I'm testing my algo trading bot with paper trading on the live Indian market, and when testing is done I'm looking forward to executing it with my own trading account.
Bot started running around 9:30, it was taking a lot of trades which ended up in loss, and with proper stop loss I was marking around 1.5k loss on most of the initial trades. Even though it was making profit in mid trades, since it's running on its own it won't stop the trade until it touches the profit mark, so it made most of the losses because of that problem. Afterwards in the afternoon it came back forward and took the PnL from the negative to the positive side. I felt like the market would be indecisive after that huge run, so I paused it manually.
I'm testing my algo trading bot with paper trading on the live Indian market, and when testing is done I'm looking forward to executing it with my own trading account.
Bot started running around 9:30, it was taking a lot of trades which ended up in loss, and with proper stop loss I was marking around 1.5k loss on most of the initial trades. Even though it was making profit in mid trades, since it's running on its own it won't stop the trade until it touches the profit mark, so it made most of the losses because of that problem. Afterwards in the afternoon it came back forward and took the PnL from the negative to the positive side. I felt like the market would be indecisive after that huge run, so I paused it manually.
I'm testing my algo trading bot with paper trading on the live Indian market, and when testing is done I'm looking forward to executing it with my own trading account.
