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Now I know elbaf hasn't been bad or anything, and Sanji vs killingham looks really good so far!

But the possibility of the sommers match up feels so much better to me.

And no it's not because he hurts women while Sanji is nice to them

Its not because he has a mechanical heart while Sanji has a mechanical body even if that's cool too

Its sommers ideology itself, my favourite thing about the match up. Sommers entire love ideology preached the complete opposite message Sanji learned in wci. Earlier gaban was called the minister of love and this is why Luffy said he's like Sanji. Sanji facing sommers would redefine his views on love, he would not just love for the sake of it but genuinely start to preach it. Becoming the king of love unlocking acoc. In a way it's him defending his mother's sacrifice to him because she gave herself up for sanji the same thing sommers said why love is false. How can it be love if it results in pain. And Sanji would defeat him knowing that's what love is for, the development is Sanji preaching proper love an independent ideal. Something he can call king ship over which is the cause of his conquers haki. The question sommers proposes to the holy knights (or us the audience) is simple. How can love be real when it can be used to put people in pain. Zoro is sure as hell not going to answer this ideologically. Sanji however can very well do it, his existence alone arguably does. Sora is gone yes but Sanji came from that sacrifice and him defeating sommers and his evil shows what that love and sacrifice did for sanji. Making him a kind selfless man and develops his ideology and takes king ship of it.

Now I know elbaf hasn't been bad or anything, and Sanji vs killingham looks really good so far!

But the possibility of the sommers match up feels so much better to me.

And no it's not because he hurts women while Sanji is nice to them

Its not because he has a mechanical heart while Sanji has a mechanical body even if that's cool too

Its sommers ideology itself, my favourite thing about the match up. Sommers entire love ideology preached the complete opposite message Sanji learned in wci. Earlier gaban was called the minister of love and this is why Luffy said he's like Sanji. Sanji facing sommers would redefine his views on love, he would not just love for the sake of it but genuinely start to preach it. Becoming the king of love unlocking acoc. In a way it's him defending his mother's sacrifice to him because she gave herself up for sanji the same thing sommers said why love is false. How can it be love if it results in pain. And Sanji would defeat him knowing that's what love is for, the development is Sanji preaching proper love an independent ideal. Something he can call king ship over which is the cause of his conquers haki. The question sommers proposes to the holy knights (or us the audience) is simple. How can love be real when it can be used to put people in pain. Zoro is sure as hell not going to answer this ideologically. Sanji however can very well do it, his existence alone arguably does. Sora is gone yes but Sanji came from that sacrifice and him defeating sommers and his evil shows what that love and sacrifice did for sanji. Making him a kind selfless man and develops his ideology and takes king ship of it.

Now I know elbaf hasn't been bad or anything, and Sanji vs killingham looks really good so far!

But the possibility of the sommers match up feels so much better to me.

And no it's not because he hurts women while Sanji is nice to them

Its not because he has a mechanical heart while Sanji has a mechanical body even if that's cool too

Its sommers ideology itself, my favourite thing about the match up. Sommers entire love ideology preached the complete opposite message Sanji learned in wci. Earlier gaban was called the minister of love and this is why Luffy said he's like Sanji. Sanji facing sommers would redefine his views on love, he would not just love for the sake of it but genuinely start to preach it. Becoming the king of love unlocking acoc. In a way it's him defending his mother's sacrifice to him because she gave herself up for sanji the same thing sommers said why love is false. How can it be love if it results in pain. And Sanji would defeat him knowing that's what love is for, the development is Sanji preaching proper love an independent ideal. Something he can call king ship over which is the cause of his conquers haki. The question sommers proposes to the holy knights (or us the audience) is simple. How can love be real when it can be used to put people in pain. Zoro is sure as hell not going to answer this ideologically. Sanji however can very well do it, his existence alone arguably does. Sora is gone yes but Sanji came from that sacrifice and him defeating sommers and his evil shows what that love and sacrifice did for sanji. Making him a kind selfless man and develops his ideology and takes king ship of it.

Now I know elbaf hasn't been bad or anything, and Sanji vs killingham looks really good so far!

But the possibility of the sommers match up feels so much better to me.

And no it's not because he hurts women while Sanji is nice to them

Its not because he has a mechanical heart while Sanji has a mechanical body even if that's cool too

Its sommers ideology itself, my favourite thing about the match up. Sommers entire love ideology preached the complete opposite message Sanji learned in wci. Earlier gaban was called the minister of love and this is why Luffy said he's like Sanji. Sanji facing sommers would redefine his views on love, he would not just love for the sake of it but genuinely start to preach it. Becoming the king of love unlocking acoc. In a way it's him defending his mother's sacrifice to him because she gave herself up for sanji the same thing sommers said why love is false. How can it be love if it results in pain. And Sanji would defeat him knowing that's what love is for, the development is Sanji preaching proper love an independent ideal. Something he can call king ship over which is the cause of his conquers haki. The question sommers proposes to the holy knights (or us the audience) is simple. How can love be real when it can be used to put people in pain. Zoro is sure as hell not going to answer this ideologically. Sanji however can very well do it, his existence alone arguably does. Sora is gone yes but Sanji came from that sacrifice and him defeating sommers and his evil shows what that love and sacrifice did for sanji. Making him a kind selfless man and develops his ideology and takes king ship of it.

For me personally, I was really hoping she would and killingham and sommers would regroup where the wings will get their proper 2v2 panel against the holy knights but even more than that. Zaza being here, hell killingham being here at the village after that zoro panel where he told Goldberg it will be ok rlly makes me worry oda will have Zaza defeated or at least the kids saved before reaching the port.

Why do I take issue with this? Well it makes the omen buff completely useless, if this is the case itd actually mean the god knights where closer to taking the kids last time PRE omen then compared to now. Which sounds terrible and makes the whole point of omen practically useless but then again if Zaza does take the kids to the port it makes zoros trust in sanji well wrong, which some could say is even worse.

What do you guys think? Are the holy knights set to do worse with their plan compared to last time? Or will Zaza successfully reach the port where zoro and sanji will regroup showing a 2v2 panel with the holy knights and wings face to face

I believe sanji will face killingham but ultimately not be able to defeat him due to zaza and current lack of acoc, killingham and Zaza will make it to the port where we see zoro unable to defeat sommers currently in a still mate with him having problems with his thornes. The new giant pirates will come to help the kids. The opponents will switch

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Starting off zoro vs killingham: ryuma can be broken into ryu and ma, ryu means dragon and ma means horse killingham is a mythical dragon horse, elbaf is a thriller bark parallel and zoro was given his first black blade from ryuma in thriller bark. killingham and zoro will face off, Zaza will be occupied by the new giant pirates and killingham will go into zoros darkest fear, failing kuina. He will realize however failing her isn't just his greatest fear but also his greatest strength unlocking his own black blade(s). Killingham is a kirin, which often symbolize spiritual awakening and personal resilience. This is perfect for zoro to unlock his own black blades including the thriller bark parallels! With him defeating killingham

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Next up sanji vs sommers: sanji will try to help the new giant pirates save the kids where sommers will see Gerd again, and attack her saying this is revenge for what she did to him. Sanji will try to burn sommers vines only realizing he can't and only ends up hurting her and the children more. Sommers will tell sanji this is why love is ultimately pain and false, the idea to hold and protect others is what puts you in pain in the first place, this will awaken ACOC for sanji hearing sommers twisted view. He will show sanji what true love is by defeating him with the power of love saving the new giant pirates and the children, making sanjis power forever stronger while the pain of sommers goes away now that his acoc heat (his love) being able to burn away sommers thornes (his cruelty)

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These will be major match ups for the wings giving them new abilities and level them up heavily. It will also showcase the other wing doing what the other cant

It would be hilarious if oda made zoro and sanji fans argue whos opponent is stronger to then just switch them https://youtu.be/fhJlVoLizVI?si=Ka7aypVhog-QEEb6

They finally some what, SOME WHAT redeemed themselves with their terrible gacha system by adding characters back to the ticket pool and now money hungry as ever stopped

Why? Why make a perfectly good system for it to only last 2 seasons

Add these 2 to the ticket pool as fast as you can. Shameful