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Why did Oda decide to portray the Holy Knights as goofy idiots and Imu as psychotic dofus ?
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Why did Oda decide to portray the Holy Knights as goofy idiots and Imu as psychotic dofus ?

We’ve been getting one piece for over 20 years now and perhaps the two most hyped factions of all time are the Holy Knights and Imu.

As far as we’ve seen the holy knights have been nothing but goofy weak idiots, who couldnt hold a candle to previous villains like Kaido or The admirals. Imu right now is also not giving any final villain vibes, he’s just a guy caught up in his past.

u/Alive_Garbage8243 — 6 days ago
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What if neither Imu, nor Blackbeard are the final bosses, but the One Piece is ?

Here me out, what if neither imu nor blackbeard were the final bosses of One Piece, but the one piece itself.

What if Imu was just manipulated by the certain evil essence inhabiting the One Piece, thus got the Devil’s fruit to beat Joy Boy and the One Piece is similiar to the Dragon Ball, granting it’s finder the wish he wants in which in Imu’s case was revenge.

What if the One Piece turns out to be a corrupt artifact that might bring an end to the world ?

u/Alive_Garbage8243 — 6 days ago
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Thoughts about Imu and Omen

Imus power is omen
It does not come from a fruit
A devil fruit is an omen embedded fruit
A fruits power or the ability it contains comes from a manifestation of someones dream
Dream in a sense is the wanting of something you dont have
Which in essence is sort of like envy
Eating a fruit is eating a dream which was manifested thru omen (a little devil)
Awakening a devil fruit is aligning your dream with that of the fruit
Best example of this is Doflamingos fruit. Where it is the string fruit which inherently lets you control things thru it, and so doflamingo wants to control everything amd everyone and so his dream aligns with of said fruit. The other example would be luffy, where the nika fruit is tied to nika the sun god of liberation, and luffy wants to be the freest person alive. And so the omen passes through him and it is now him.
Imu having the power of the devils fruit, he can desire, dream, want something, and he will achieve it much like devil fruits themselves. If he believes he can stretch his arms to hit luffy, he will stretch. If he wants to be able to shoot fireballs that come to life and track people, he can.
He was not able to domi reversi luffy or loki, because domi reversi implants omen into you in such an overwhelming way, especially those who have never eaten a devil fruit, they dont have the experience. So far we’ve seen Rocks, Harald, Ruven and the giants be domi reversi’d, none of which have devil fruit afaik. Luffy and loki not only have their own devil fruits, they have awakened them which means they have experienced and control their own omen. Where this gets a little complicated is when we talk about the HK and Gorosei. But I believe that it has something to do with the covenant mark. He has given omen buffs to the HK on Elbaf, and taken over the bodies of Mars, Saturn and Gunko. Theres a lot more to talk about but I dont want to make this too long.

Just food for thought, what do you guys think?

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u/FrequenT_x — 6 days ago
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(Massive Spoilers) The Harley Text is 3 children’s stories of Luffy

(Dunno if anyone already said this, I’m new) 

  

The First World describes Chapter 1 (Romance Dawn) 

  • “Mankind succumbed to greed and touched the forbidden sun” - Luffy getting hungry and eating the Nika fruit 
  • “The enslaved prayed and the sun god appeared” - Makino and Woop Slap hoping someone will save Luffy, then Shanks appears wearing the straw hat
  • “The earth god raged and with its serpent of fire shrouded the world in death and darkness” - Higuma the mountain bandit throwing the smoke bomb and running off to the sea with Luffy, and the Lord of the Coast coming to eat them and taking Shanks’ arm (this line is particularly dramatized)
  • “And they will never meet” - Luffy not getting to go out to sea with Shanks

 

The Second World describes the end of Wano 

  • “Within the void there was breath” - after Luffy’s heart stopped beating (void) Nika awakened and brought him back to life with a breath 
  • “The forest god tamed demons and the sun spread the fires of war” - Monkey D. Luffy defeats the Oni Kaido, the Strongest Creature in the World, announcing it to the world as Nika (the sun) with the Gear 5 wanted poster despite the world government trying to stop it 
  • “Those of the half-moon dreamed. Those of the moon dreamed” - Kozuki clan and Minks finally were able to rest after 20 years with Oden’s dream being fullfilled 
  • “Man killed the sun and became god” - Luffy maintaining control of his awakening, not letting the fruit take over, and becoming the Sun God
  • "and the sea god stormed” - Shanks flashing his haki from the sea to drive Greenbull away
  • “And they will never meet” - Luffy recognizing Shanks’ haki but not getting to see him

 

 

The Third World described the Final Saga (Egghead, Elbaf, Final arc) 

  • “Within the chaos there was emptiness” - the citizens, pirates, and the government all gathering in silence to listen to Vegapunk’s speech
  • “The inconvenient remnants recall the promised day and hear the voice of the half moon” - the D clan hear the history of the ancient world it being effectively the same as Kozuki Toki’s message from 800 years ago
  • “The sun god dances and laughs guiding the world to it’s end” - Luffy will defeat Imu (the world) sending him back to Mary Geoise where he will be killed by Blackbeard though I think Dragon, Shanks, Shamrock, and Garling will have significant roles 
  • “The sun returns and brings a new morning” - Luffy after reaching Laughtale and then Mary Geoise will defeat Blackbeard who has usurped Imu and claimed the world, finally bringing the dawn. 
  • “And they will surely meet” - Luffy returns the strawhat to Shanks

I can't fathom the implications this has on the rest of the story, epsecially the void century, because I speculate Lili wrote this as it was just confirmed she lived on Elbaf in the latest chapter. I don't know if this means that she saw the future sort of like Madam Shyarly saw Luffy in the future, maybe Lili saw it and wrote it down, Toki literally time traveled from the void century and both Lili and Wano were allied with Joyboy. Maybe someone saw Joyboy's future/dream manifested as Luffy, Lili wrote the books based on the story, someone else drew the mural as a way to visualize it, and Toki went forward in time, passing it down orally. This event likely happened on Elbaf, the most important story in the series was told on Fable Island.

u/thoughtfulgopher82 — 6 days ago
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Raftel is a "Corner Space"

In Reversi/Othello.

Placing the right piece there will flip the whole world from corner to corner. Roger found it and needed to go back to the other corner in Rogue Town.

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u/ScuffleDLux — 6 days ago
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Power ups after elbaf

Luffy: Gear 5; Black color/God of Destruction mode(that is, like a kind of rage mode where Luffy, due to stress and his emotions (Especially anger, hatred, and agony)They spiral out of control to the point where Luffy will stop caring if his fight against Imu hurts others because his uncontrolled emotions prevent him from processing everything; his power would basically be...The opposite of his power in his white form, that is, if his white form gives Luffy the freedom to CREATE anything he wants with his imagination, his black form would allow Luffy to NEGATE with his In short, Luffy can touch something and, if he wants, he can damage it, turn it to dust, or tear it to pieces, and everything that comes out of his Hagoromp would be silhouette shapes of a line.Separated, which would allow that silhouette to leave a mark, scar, or an eye on said target, and that it be marked from the same silhouette figure),

Zoro: Conqueror's Haki infused into his 3 katanas, now under control(Basically what we are currently seeing)

Nami: Observation Haki and weather enhancements (could also include a new homie if Pandora is still alive and/or a wild Conqueror's Haki aura that turns her into a berserk and said Its shape resembles a flying snake, revealing that Nami has a Uranus (I believe that Uranus in this case will be an ancient beast in itself)

Usopp: Controlled Observation Haki and Awakening of Conqueror's Haki + New Tools for His Slingshot and Bullets(so that Usopp can learn to compensate for his lack of Armament Haki and create weapons that can rival Haki itself)

Sanji: conqueror haki (both basic and advanced) and improved version of iflit jambei (lucifer jambei/Amaterasu jambei And with that power, Sanji can unleash black or blue-violet flames to further burn his opponents and cause the "metallic" heart of a knight of god to be damaged by the intensity From the warmth of this new jambei)

Chopper: Awakening of his Devil Fruit + new upgrades to his rumble balls (I think Chopper can get rid of the Domi Reversi because of the waves from the rumble balls he uses)Consuming to modify your fruit (we could see it after the Elbaf fight)

Robin: New techniques from her Devil Fruit, new customized uses of her Groyin Karate, and flashes of Observation Haki (and maybe a new power from her ringed eyes)(If things get out of control, we'd see it in a real final battle against Marsimu, but if the Portas win, it would be in the next arc)

Franky: Super Vega-Cola and Lilith's technological upgrades(we're already seeing it, although we'll look at that in more detail after elbaf)

Brook: Awakening his Devil Fruit and gaining knowledge of demonic contracts (whether he managed to save Shuri or couldn't, but learned how Imu's power works, either way, he would That his fruit can copy and counter the demonic powers of Imu and other demonic powers and the Maki)

Jimbei: New uses of Groyin karate, berserk mode (like Arlong's), and flashes indicating he possesses Conqueror's Haki(Jimbei is an experienced old man, therefore, we would see more things that Jimbei had up his sleeve for certain specific occasions)

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u/Neutral_Rabbit900213 — 12 days ago