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Do they not get in trouble because of they closed the loop?

Because the way it's explained, you don't even know your watching to different videos when it's going through testing. You look crazy for pointing something out in one version of a video when someone is seeing a different version.

It's one of those things YouTube didn't need to come out with especially if it's going to be chaotic for the people watching the video.

Its like when they took away the disklike button.

It’s crazy because If I’m not mistaken, Tolkien had something to say when reviewing an early animated film script treatment by Morton Zimmerman that featured a vocal Balrog. In Letter 210 he says

“The Balrog never speaks or makes any vocal sound at all. Above all he does not laugh or sneer. .... Z may think that he knows more about Balrogs than I do, but he cannot expect me to agree with him."

(Tolkien was slightly mistaken about the Balrog making "no vocal sound at all," as he himself wrote in The Fellowship of the Ring that Durin's Bane fell into the abyss "with a terrible cry". However, his intent regarding speech was absolute.)

But some may ask: “If they don’t speak, how did they command armies or cast spells?”

Balrogs actually didn't need a spoken language to command armies or weave magic because they were divine, primordial spirits (Maiar) whose power operated through telepathy and raw, spiritual will.

Some may also point out Gothmog when he captured Hurin, bound him and dragged him to Angband with mockery.

Well, As a divine spirit (Maiar), Gothmog possessed the ability to project his thoughts, will, and malice directly into the minds of others. To a human captive like Húrin, a Balrog projecting thoughts of absolute contempt, failure, and despair directly into his mind would feel exactly like being verbally mocked and tormented.

Mockery does not strictly require words. It is highly likely Gothmog humiliated the mighty human hero through physical actions. After Húrin spent hours shouting "Day shall come again!" while single-handedly slaughtering seventy of Gothmog's troll-guards, Gothmog binding him like an animal and dragging him through the dirt was an act of supreme, silent mockery. Parading the greatest human warrior alive in chains before the laughing armies of Orcs—using him as a literal trophy—is a potent form of non-verbal, psychological torment.

When Tolkien wrote the initial versions of Húrin’s capture (found in The Book of Lost Tales and early drafts of The Silmarillion), he originally envisioned Balrogs as a numerous race of large, physical monsters that could speak, laugh, and yell commands. Decades later (around the time of writing The Lord of the Rings), Tolkien fundamentally changed what Balrogs were. He escalated them into primordial, terrifying spirits of fire and shadow, deciding in Letter #210 that they "never speak."

So, I find that it’s pretty crazy to have the Balrog speak. And the reasoning they are using is against what Tolkien wrote and how he felt.

GTA 6 Miami Heat Vice City Jerseys anyone?

I’ve been rewatching Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001) and Treasure Planet (2002) recently, and I’m always struck by how much they feel like a completely separate, secret era of Disney history. They sit right at the tail end of the Disney Renaissance, but they completely threw out the musical playbook to give us high-stakes, pulp-inspired sci-fi adventure.

Looking back, it feels like these two films were the ultimate victims of a massive Disney identity crisis.

I wanted to break down three specific reasons why I think these movies hit a wall in the early 2000s, but became absolute masterpieces in retrospect:

The Death of the Musical: Disney spent the 1990s dominating with Broadway-style musicals (Aladdin, The Lion King, Mulan). When Atlantis and Treasure Planet showed up, audiences—especially parents with younger kids—didn't quite know what to do with heavy sci-fi worldbuilding, intense action sequences, and a complete lack of singing sidekicks.

The 2D vs. 3D Transition War: These movies represent the absolute peak of "2.5D" animation. Treasure Planet used revolutionary "Deep Canvas" tech to let hand-drawn characters fly through 3D space, and Atlantis leaned heavily into Mike Mignola's sharp, angular comic art style. But right as they came out, the industry was panicking over Pixar and Shrek. It almost feels like Disney executives gave up on marketing them because they were already desperate to pivot entirely to fully 3D computer animation.

The "Father Figure" Contrast: Can we talk about how incredibly mature the writing was? Rourke in Atlantis represents a brilliant critique of military-industrial greed—acting like a mentor to Milo before brutally betraying him for a paycheck. Meanwhile, Long John Silver is easily one of Disney’s best anti-heroes. He’s a literal space pirate who genuinely grows to love Jim Hawkins, ultimately choosing a broken kid over his lifelong obsession with Flint's trove.

It feels like if these two movies were pitched today—either as live-action blockbusters or high-budget animated series on Disney+—they would be massive, universally praised hits. Instead, they were released at the absolute worst cultural and technological moment possible.

I’d love to hear your thoughts:

Which movie do you think has aged better visually and narratively?

Do you think Disney intentionally buried Treasure Planet by launching it directly against Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets?

If Disney ever does a live-action remake, which of these two actually deserves it more?