Title.
The only thing i noticed was maybe it was making the effect of my cistanche a littls stronger, but on its own NADA.

i kept at it thinking that it would do something in the background due to its many benefits claimed on the website. But even then after 2 months, i haven’t noticed any changes.

Anyone had a similar experience?

recently started a Full-Spectrum Cistanche and really liking it.

It seems to have an acute effect on my energy and gym performance. I’ve even set new PRs after taking it. However, I’ve noticed a slight crash 4 to 6 hours later

Currently taking Cistanche twice a day, first thing in the morning and before dinner, but I’m considering taking it at lunch as well, for a total of three doses per day. Would that be too much?

Would switching to Ultra-Potency Cistanche provide a longer-lasting effect and potentially save money by allowing me to dose twice daily instead of taking Full-Spectrum Cistanche three times daily?

Looking into adding a good mood supplement. Not sure if both or either makes more sense.
Currently taking saffron, sabroxy, rhodiola, black ginger, tauromag

Basic Info:
25 (Almost 26), living with a rare form of Blood disorder, 6 foot 1, 170lbs (Very lean with some muscle and Very active 20k+ steps a day)

Ok so I’ve been trying a bunch of new stuff lately and going down the Nootropics Depot rabbit hole lol. I put together a stack that’s been making me feel focused, energized and generally in a pretty good mood.
I’m definitely not an expert though, so I’m curious if any of this is redundant, badly timed, or could be organized better.
For context: I wake up around 5 AM, train first thing, work 9 to 5, and sometimes have class in the evening.

PS: This does not include the suppleemnts i take for health such as astaxanthin, Vit D/K, Multi, Zinc/Copper, Fish Oil, Ubiquinol, Leutine/Zea, Boron, Vit C, TMG

5 AM / Pre-workout Empty Stomach

Daily:
*ND Black Ginger: 200 mg (not feeling it idk)
*Coffee: ~100 mg caffeine
*1/2 scoop Preworkout = 1g Tyrosine + 500mg Taurine
*1 Scoop Electrolytes = Minerals/Electrolytes/Taurine
*Creatine: 5 g

Mon-Fri: (Redosing these at lunch)
*Sabroxy: 200 mg
Sat-Sun:
*Alpha-GPC: 300 mg

Post-workout/ before work( 7-8 AM)

Daily:
*Cognance: 100 mg
*Phosphatidylserine: 100 to 200mg
*Saffron: 30 mg

Lunch / midday, (12-1 PM)

Daily:
*Taurine: 1 g
*Dynamine: 100 mg

Mon-Fri:
*Sabroxy: 100 mg
Sat-Sun:
*Alpha-GPC: 150 mg

Evening After Work (5 to 6pm, I sometime go out at night and some days i go to night classes so i want to feel chill and focused)
Daily
*Tauromag: 1/2 Serving (expensive so 1/2 To Save $)
* Magtein: 1/2 Serving (-//-)
*Agmatine: 500 mg
*Theanine: 200 mg
*Taurine: 1 g

I struggle with skeep maintenance so still trying to fuigure it out. I love taurine to relax me but it wakes me up earlier when i take it before bed
Before bed
*Magnesium Glycinate: ~300 mg
*Glycine: 4-5 g
*Tryptophan: 1 g
*Theanine: 200 mg
*Apigenin: 50 mg
* Extended Release Melatonin: 0.3 mg

Main things I’m wondering:
Anything redundant or badly timed?

Cognance + PS + saffron post-workout make sense?

200 mg Sabroxy AM + 100 mg at lunch, or would you split it differently?

Dynamine actually good for the midday crash or is there a better ND option?

Is TauroMag + agmatine + taurine + theanine overkill in the evening?

Anything you’d just remove completely?

PS: I’m sorry if this is asking too much, i just like to think alot about details. Makes my brain happy oddly haha

Hello,

I take late-night classes after work from 6:30 PM to 8:00 PM. Safe to say, I'm a little tired and not very focused, but I want to make it work.

I take 200 mg of L-theanine in the morning with caffeine and another 200 mg before bed. I tried taking 200 mg on its own before class, but without caffeine, it just makes me calm rather than focused. Plus, I get a headache—likely because I hit 600 mg by the end of the day, which might be too much for me.

Anyway, I am looking for recommendations that would help me feel more energetic and focused without messing with my sleep.

And yes, I do eat a balanced protein/fat/carb meal before class, but I'm still not mentally present.

The main two contenders seem to be Alpha-GPC and CDP-Choline, but honestly, both have some pretty significant downsides.
CDP-Choline initially seems like the safer option, but the main issue for me is its relatively long half-life. From what I’ve read online, some people report getting depressed, developing migraines, or just feeling worse when taking it for more than a couple days in a row.
I’ve actually noticed something similar myself, which makes me hesitant to use it continuously.

Alpha-GPC, on the other hand, seems almost perfect for physical energy + mental focus, but it has two big concerns:
1. The stroke data
There was a massive Korean study involving 10+ million older individuals that found an ~40% higher risk of stroke associated with Alpha-GPC use.
Obviously, there are some huge caveats here. The study was done in an older population, and in Korea Alpha-GPC is prescription-only at higher doses (1,000mg+) and is generally used in people with pre-existing conditions.
So I have no idea how applicable that data is to a relatively healthy person taking something like 100–300mg. But the association is still there, and it’s hard to completely ignore.
2. TMAO
This is another concern because, similar to ALCAR, Alpha-GPC has been shown to increase TMAO levels with regular consumption.
So now we have two potentially useful cholinergics, but one seems to have issues with long-term use for some people, while the other has concerning observational safety data + the whole TMAO problem.
Which brings me to the obvious question:
Is supplemental choline even worth it?
Would simply eating eggs / other choline-rich foods regularly provide enough choline for most people without needing to supplement?
Or is there actually a good reason to use something like Alpha-GPC or CDP-Choline?

PS: yes i used chatgpt to fix some of the wording, i was typing this on the go so wanted to make sure there were no mistake

So i have been exprimenting with supplement for the last few month, and today i tried a combo that made me feel so chill and at peace. It literally feels like everything is going to be alright and find(Almost euphoric, but not there yet).
Also oddly, my sense of touch is more pronouced and i’m not really sure why but doesn’t really bother me
I usually take it at 6 to 7pm right before Dinner

This is going to be specific but here it goes:

1/2 Serving of TauroMag
1g Taurine
15mg Saffron
L theanine 200mg

Tauromag is expensive so i take 1/2 serving everyday.
I also already use the high potency saffron in the morning but decided to try a second dose of 15mg(from amazon).

That stack just removes all worries i have. I don’t really understand why i have such a strong effect but i love it

Which of these two would you prefer in the morning vs. evening?

I have saffron and plan to introduce polygala for its nootropic effects. But I wonder, if there’s some redundancy between the two, would it be better to use polygala during the day and saffron in the evening, since there’s actually some data supporting its sleep benefits?

I take rhodiola twice a day. Would it be better to take it pre- or post-workout?
I plan to use it to blunt the energy/fatigue I feel after working out. So far, I’ve been taking it post-workout because my logic was: I feel tired once I’m done working out, so wouldn’t it be better to take it at that point rather than before I’m tired?

Do they work better when taken with fat to absorb or not.
Hoping to hear from people’s experience

Thank you

Hello,

So I have been eying Black Ginger for a couple of weeks now for libido and performance.
I am curious about a couple of things.

1. Should I worry about 5ar effect of black ginger? I take 12mg of astaxanthin daily for other reason so I worry that I may be pushing it. I have higher everything hormone wise(Free/total/shbg/e2) but I take boron to help with it

2. Does black Ginger have lipids benefits? I am a little confused on what it actually does

3. How is everyone experience with the thermogenic effects of BG(sleep/heart palpitations etc). Seems like there are a lot of mixed reviews on this

Hi, I have been looking around at ND and thinking about setting up a stack for day Work and Post Work Night stack
Will Be Running this stack on weekdays ONLY. So 5 on 2 off. Looking fir feedbacks and suggestions.
AM is to be locked in at work and be social yet focused for my night class so that i can socialized with teachers classmate and still do presentations(doing alot of these in my program)

ND means Nootropic Depot

Wake Up/ Pre Workout(6 to 7am)
ND Saffron: 30mg
Matcha Tea + Personal Pre Workout(150mg Caffeine)
ND Taurine: 1g
ND NMN: 500mg
TMG: 2g
ND Black Maca: 1 Scoop

Post Workout(8 to 9am)
ND Sabroxy: 100mg
ND Polygala: 100 to 200mg
L Theanine: 100mg

Lunch(1 to 2pm)
ND Polygala: 100mg
L Theanine

Evening After Work/Before Night Class(6 to 7pm)
ND Lemon Balm
ND Fish Oil
NAC(Cycled Often or else i start feeling weird)

Post Night Class/Before Bed
ND Magnesium Glycinate: 200mg Elemental
ND Magnesium Tauromag: 50mg Elemental
ND Taurine: 1g
Glycine: 5 to 6g
Apigenin: 50mg

Basically title, what would help improve mood while taking sabroxy in the morning. Must help with focus without sedation

Thanks✌️

Hi so this is gonna very specific but i am looking for exactly ONE nootropic for the following situations:
I already take saffron in the morning, theanine daily(not even sure when to take it tbh) and l tryptophan before bed all daily.
I have been looking at ND selection but it is so Overwhelming lol

1 for Morning Pre Work. Must be good for all day focus, motivation and just over good mood and energy

1 for The weekend. Something that makes me a little more giggly, bubbly and just more social

1 for evening wind down(NOT bed time). Basically something that allows me to forget about work and relax with the family. Can’t be super sedating.

Appriciate the help guys

I’ve been taking ND Saffron for a couple of weeks in the morning and recently added 1,000 mg of L-tryptophan before bed. Recently Iearmed about serotonin syndrome and worry about it while taking both especially since both are potent on the serotonin axis, especially ND Saffron being quite potent

Hoping to hear from people who know more about that subject than me.
Thank you

This is the stack i came up with. Just curious about my stack stack specifically. I don’t have ADHD, but sure as hell feel like it and i struggle with low mood/energy/libido and some drained social battery but lunch time.

Stats:
25M
Total T: 856ng/DL
Free T: 88.1 pg/ml
SHBG: 50(double since last year, not sure why)
LH: 3.1 IU/L
FSH: 6.3 IU/L
Estradiol: 37 pg/mL
Thalassemia Minor
**T-cell large granular lymphocytic leukemia abbreviated (**T-LGL leukemia). Basically means i have to avoid very immune modulating supplements(hence the absense of Tongka ali despite wanting to raise my free T)

Looked around came up with this stack. So far, i have l ly used the NMN, saffron and cistance and looking into upgrading my stack to the following:

Daily(Fasted):
ND Full Spectrum Cistance: 700mg
Taurine: 2g
Oral BPC/KPV(As Need when dealing with gut issues)

Weekday Pre AM Workout(Fasted)
NMN Sublingual: 250mg
Nr Capsule: 300mg
1/2 Scoop Pre Workout Powder + 1 Cup Coffee

WeekEnd Pre AM Workout(Fasted)
Black Coffee OR Energy Drink
Alpha GPC: 150 to 300mg(i dont want to use Choline Or carnatine daily because of TMAO so i just use it on weekends)

IntraWorkout Daily
Creatine Monohydrate: 2g(any more than that i get gut issues oddly)
Eletrolyte: 1 scoop
Optional: 1/2 scoop EAA(honestly, not needed and wont buy again, just finishing it for flavor because i use a bug jug of water

WeekDay Post AM Workout/Pre Work(With Breakfast)
ND Sabroxy Cycled With Semax: 2 Weeks Each
ND Saffron: 30mg
Optional Black Coffee + L Theanine

WeekEnd Post AM Workout/Pre Work(With Breakfast)
ND Saffron: 60mg
Optional Black Coffee + L Theanine

WeekDay Lunch Time
Second dose of Cistanche or Sabroxy(Not Sure yet)
Ubiquinol: 100mg
TMG: 500mg or 1g(Not Sure yet)
Zinc: 15mg
Copper: 1mg
Boron: 7mg
Methylated Multi Vitamin
Vitamin D3/K2: 5000iu + 100mg
PHGG AND/OR Psillium Husk: 5 to 7g(Worried it might affect supplement absorbtion)

WeekEnd Lunch Time
Second Dose Alpha GPC
Uniquinol: 100mg
Zinc: 15mg
Copper: 1mg
No Boron
Vitamin C: 1g
Vitamin D3/K2: 5000iu + 100mg

Dinner(Weekday & WeekEnd)
KPV Peptide SubQ: 300mcg
Astaxanthin: 8 to 12mg
High Quality Refrigirated Fish Oil: 1.5g
Leutine + Zeaxanthin: 25mg + 5mg
L reuteri(for oxytocin, 5 days a week only)
Phosphatidylserine: 100 to 200mg
NAC: 600mg

Pre Bed(Weekday & WeekEnd)
Mag Glycinate: 300mg
Taurine: 2g
Glycine: 6g
Apigenin: 50mg

I am open to any suggestions

Title. It seems like the Full soectrum is the most balnaced but a little too mild. Since it is the cheaper of the blend, 2 capsules 5 days on 2 days off would still fit my budget. Was just curious if anyone tried it

Thank you🙏