Rules and Pricing guidelines/rules (Updated)

Hello there, fine folks of the Brushforhire community!

For what has been over a year, the model of guidelines and regulations that we have in place has served its purpose. However, its tenure has highlighted in abundance that it requires updating so as to address rising costs, and some areas where the original model failed to address. In addition to the pricing adjustments, there will be several general points pertinent to the amendments as well as some community conduct going forward.

Below we have detailed explanations for the changes moving forward, here is a quick summary of those changes but please continue reading this entire post;

-Pricing guidelines have changed. Please refer to GW pricing for minimum thresholds for quoting GW projects.

.Tabletop Standard=3x RSP.
.Parade Standard=4x RSP.
.Display Standard=5x RSP.
.Recommendations/base minimum for Hourly rates.

-Do not message clients underneath their adverts and encourage them to DM you in the event that they can't be DM'ed. Leave a message simply saying they can't be DM, and message a mod to let us know you cannot send a DM to a client so that we can also reach out via Modmail.

-Be you a newcomer or a longtime community member, please read and adhere to the rules.

-No undercutting.

General updates:

.It has come to our attention that in certain cases flagged for undercutting, the painter(s) have cited that they had done so under the notion that since they charged similar prices onto their friends, there was nothing wrong with that being extended here. Obviously, this cannot and shall not be tolerated here. We are all doing our utmost to be paid fairly and by amount which reflects the wondrous work we do as well as the cost of time that we cannot get back. When you come here and seek to set up in our community, please observe our rules and also understand that the rules/guidelines are there for your benefit and that of your fellow painters.

.Over time, repeat instances transpired where we have had to talk to community members as to numerous manner of infractions, and we would be met with "We didn't know the rules". In the vast majority of cases, these are persons whom have been in the community for several months and have had frequent activity. Ignorance, particularly when the rules are both accessible and visible, makes for hollow justification. kindly read up on those very rules and adhere to them. It saves both you and ourselves much time and effort.

.For painters, if you find yourself unable to get in contact with clients in relation to their posted adverts, please refrain from writing or prompting the clients to contact you under their adverts. It violates the 'DM Sent' only rule. Instead, leave a message simply telling them that they can't be DM'ed (desirably, if one person has already highlighted this, that should be enough. Also contact the Mods and allow us to reach out and let the client know. Please and thank you. .We Mods are volunteers. We take time out of our day as fellow painters to help bring and maintain some semblance of cohesion, standards, and fair play here. I think that both community members and Mods alike have done a tremendous job of just that for the last two years. That said, whilst we fully acknowledge that no one likes to be corrected or told not do something, it does not warrant being belligerent, combative, nor insulting when we come to you and attempt to address any infractions. That kind of behaviour benefits none here, and will only escalate matters to where we have to take appropriate action. Please keep this in mind.

.When it comes to composing quotes for jobs that contain combat patrol boxes and the like, please price the units they contain as though they were sold separately and not as a bundle. Through both lengthy observation and the kind help of community members, we've noticed that this hiccup has caused no small amount of issues with prices not meeting our standards.

Pricing Guidelines:

Below you will find a foundation that we advise you to use for pricing your work. What we aim for is that your quoted prices do not fall below what is to serve as a threshold, and that you then adjust the amount in relation to your quality type, fees, conversation rates, and so on. Again, it is not that they must be exactly at the rates cited, but that they don't fall below it. Feel free to use hourly rates as well, if charging by unit is not how you operate, but must still be at a reasonable livable wage, at the very least.

.Tabletop Standard: Your bog standard paintjob for the purpose of getting models on the table at an expedient pace and low cost. What constitutes this can vary between painters, such as only a few base colours and a shade, but we still recommend that you price/pay 3xRSP as a minimum cost for painting.

.Parade ready/High Quality: A higher quality paintjob that pays more attention to detail, effort, and techniques. Again, this can vary between painters, but it typically encompasses multiple layers, highlighting and edge highlighting, more advance techniques to achieve results, and so on. We recommend that you price/pay 4xRSP as a minimum cost for painting.

.Display Painting: Crown Jewel tier, pride piece, the quality for high end competitions etc. This brand of quality is the most intensive with labour, the most time consuming, and the most demanding of a painter, and should be priced accordingly. We recommend that you price/pay 5xRSP as a minimum cost for painting.

.3D Printed models. Whilst the cost is substantially reduced as a procurement method, it still must be charged as though it were bought at RSP for the purpose of fairly pricing a paintjob.

.Whilst we are aware that GW aren't the only tabletop miniature company in town, they are indisputably the biggest, and their prices should be used when attempting to find some point of parity for pricing units.

.Hourly rates. Much like with charging by units, charging by hourly rates must be set at fair and livable threshold, ideally at a livable wage. As a bar for a minimum, we recommend 18 to 20 USD per hour, with required adjustment for parity with your own currency. Example, 180 to 200kr or 18 to 20 GBP.

.GK and Historical tabletop game jobs are more tricky to price via quantity of units and RSP. It can be achieved in certain cases but is tricky to fit in a uniformed way. Therefore, we advise that these jobs be priced with hourly rates in mind.

Finally, we will be updating/amending the above if and when needed, as well as based on community feedback. We want to do our best to find the best model to protect both clients and painters. Thank for both your time and continued support in making this community what it is.

Take care!

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u/meatshield_minis — 7 days ago

Verified Artist and Rising Artist flair application.

Greetings to you all!

As many of you are aware, /uHoltb80 (Absolute legend, but don't tell him I said that) made a post detailing our plans to introduce a further step of protection in the form of flairs. The response to which has floored us, and far exceeded our expectations in both feedback and support. Thank you. With that aside, the purpose of this post will be to serve as the official date of flair introduction across the board, to inform yourselves and prospective clients of what the flairs denote as well as their prerequisites, and as the medium through which you'll put in your applications.

Firstly, what the flairs indicate;

. Verified Artist: A painter whom possesses this flair has met all of the criteria when evaluated, has a healthy pattern of consistent activity as well as tenure inside and outside of the subreddit (which take into account their external socials), and ultimately has established that they are legitimate.

. Rising Artist: A painter whom possesses this flair has met a decent portion of our requires, and has our backing to be regarded as on the level. However, they are denied fully verified status owing to lacking some parts of the desired criteria. This could be something as innocent and mundane as not having the minimum of one year of Reddit membership, or no socials pertinent to the craft etc. Many newer and or smaller painters may typically fall under this, but that is not be held against them when considering painters for jobs. These persons have been reviewed by Moderators, and therefore provided the aforementioned flair as a sign of trust.

Every few months, at least three, we will come back to those whom were assigned the Rising Artist flair and, determine whether or not they can then be awarded the Verified Artist flair.

Nonetheless, we must still advise potential clients to do their due diligence when considering which painter to hire. Whilst we will happily help you in the event of some transgression, the onus is on you as a client to guard yourself in your financial decisions. We are doing what we can to assist in making an informed choice, keep you as safe as possible, and help this community.

The criteria for Verified Artist will be as follows;

- Reddit Verified email.

-Online portfolio.

-At least one online social (outside of Reddit). The more there are, and the more active they are, the better.

-A duration of Reddit activity (1 year minimum, this is easy to check as you get a "1 year club" achievement )

-No major infractions (Whilst this will not automatically disqualify applicants, the severity of any infractions will be taken into account when evaluating your application.)

In addition, whilst it is not required for your application, one or two reviews from clients can certainly help. Should any applicants not meet the above criteria, but at least a reasonable portion, they will be contacted by us to get a bearing on their situation. After which, they will be provided with the Rising Artist flair. As a further mark of good faith, voice interviews can be arranged to further plead your case (which are to be handled by myself), as we want a healthy measure of accessibility and openness with this great community. Lastly, we come to how the Painters apply for their flair! All you simply have to do is comment under this post with 'Review Me'. We will go through each and every painter that provides that, and evaluate them (Please keep in mind that that will take time). If we require any additional information and or clarification, we will reach out and ask. Anyone whom previously requested review and were denied Verification, and was over three months ago, should resubmit a request.

Thank you for your time and your continued support of the community!

In addendum; we will be look into links on your Reddit account that pertain to your socials and any material to help substantiate your status as a legitimate painter for here. Please be sure to have these on your account and are visible.

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u/meatshield_minis — 22 days ago

Birthday Bowl!

I turned forty this week, and in light of that,my partner decided to organise a wee Birthday Blood Bowl bash. And the winner of the day shall receive a modest trophy filled with sweeties.

u/meatshield_minis — 1 month ago

What do I need or would benefit from having?

O esteemed members of the Midnight Court! I come before you with a

I'm thinking of doing a rare touch of indulgence in the aftermath of turning 40, and wondering what I should acquire. Would you lovely folks take a look at what I currently have and tell what you think I might need or would be a fine addition to my Vampire Counts:

HQs:

.Three Necromancers.

.Four Vampire Countesses on foot.

.Strigoi Ghoul King on foot.

.Three Wight Kings.

.One Wight Lord BSB.

.Three Banshees.

.One Vampire lord on horse.

.One Vampire lord/Countess on Nightmare.

.One Vampire Lord on Undead Dragon.

Troops:

.Eight Ghouls.

.Fifty Zombies.

.Twenty Skeletons with Swords and Shields (Also serving as Grave Guard with Swords and shields).

.Eighteen Skeletons with Spears.

.Twenty Dire Wolves

.Twenty Grave Guard with Great Weapons.

Cavalry:

.Sixteen Blood Knights.

.Five Black Knights.

Special.

.Corpse Cart.

.Four Vargheist.

.Zombie Dragon.

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u/meatshield_minis — 1 month ago

"In this sign thou shalt conquer"

I decided that my next addition to my Vampire Counts should be a Wight Lord with a Banner; using Watch Captain Halgrim as the base model.

u/meatshield_minis — 2 months ago

"In this sign thou shalt conquer"

I decided that my next addition to my Vampire Counts should be a Wight Lord with a Banner; using Watch Captain Halgrim as the base model.

u/meatshield_minis — 2 months ago

"Mr Crowley, what went on in your head? Oh, Mr Crowley, did you talk to the dead?

And so, I now have my very first Vampire Counts model painted up and ready to lead my upcoming force! I used the Los Illuminados Cultists from Resident Evil 4 as some inspiration for the robes colourscheme. What do you folks think?

u/meatshield_minis — 2 months ago

"Mr Crowley, what went on in your head? Oh, Mr Crowley, did you talk to the dead?"

And so, I now have my very first Vampire Counts model painted up and ready to lead my upcoming force! I used the Los Illuminados Cultists from Resident Evil 4 as some inspiration for the robes colourscheme. What do you folks think?

u/meatshield_minis — 2 months ago

Frölunda HC themed team.

Hello! I'm a local mini painter for hire, and in the run up to my local league's new season, my friend and client wanted to have his team painted in the Frölunda HC inspired colours.

Enjoy!

u/meatshield_minis — 2 months ago
▲ 112 r/bloodbowl

"You want die like last men visit Amazonia!?!"

My local league, of which I've been a happy participant of for several years, starts a new season this month. Three of my Blood Bowl buddies became clients and wanted me to paint teams; High Elves, Amazons, and Necromantic Horror.

Enjoy!

u/meatshield_minis — 2 months ago
▲ 165 r/bloodbowl

"I'm a High Elf because I like to party!"

Commissioned by three fellow participants in my local Blood Bowl league; High Elves, Amazon, and Necromantic Horror. Pretty good looking fouling targets.

u/meatshield_minis — 3 months ago

Advice for my upcoming first ever match in Old World (I'm playing Vampire Counts)

Greetings folks!

In late August I'll finally be able to realise my wee dream to play as Vampire Counts in Warhammer Old World/Fantasy. It legitimately has been an army, after playing Warhammer Dark Omen obsessively, and system I longed to try but never found the time, opportunity, nor community. Thankfully, that has changed as my good friend is taking me to his local gaming group for my introductory match come late August.

With that said, what advice to you folks feel is necessary or handy for a noob to have on hand for their first match? Be it general game advice, things to watch for or keep in mind, advice about what is a good force composition for learning Vampire counts etc. I must stress for the last point that I wouldn't be looking for the most gaming winning composition, rather a fun and starter friendly variation to help learn the ropes.

Many thanks!

Meatshield Minis.

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u/meatshield_minis — 3 months ago

Advice for my upcoming first ever match in Old World (I'm playing Vampire Counts)

Greetings folks!

In late August I'll finally be able to realise my wee dream to play as Vampire Counts in Warhammer Old World/Fantasy. It legitimately has been an army, after playing Warhammer Dark Omen obsessively, and system I longed to try but never found the time, opportunity, nor community. Thankfully, that has changed as my good friend is taking me to his local gaming group for my introductory match come late August.

With that said, what advice to you folks feel is necessary or handy for a noob to have on hand for their first match? Be it general game advice, things to watch for or keep in mind, advice about what is a good force composition for learning Vampire counts etc. I must stress for the last point that I wouldn't be looking for the most gaming winning composition, rather a fun and starter friendly variation to help learn the ropes.

Many thanks!

Meatshield Minis.

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u/meatshield_minis — 3 months ago

"That's No Orc Horn"

Recently, my local gaming and geek store approached me with the honour of painting the Iliathan warhost box for a charity auction coming up. Well worth the nineteen days of toil.

u/meatshield_minis — 4 months ago

"That's No Orc Horn"

My local gaming and geek store approached me with the honour of painting up the Iliathan box for a charity auction they will be hosting in future. Nineteen days of toil was worth it.

u/meatshield_minis — 4 months ago

Tell me you like my hat.

I've been devoting my time to completing a charity for project, a Iliathan Warhost box, for free. It's not my usual stock of projects but I'm liking it.

u/meatshield_minis — 4 months ago

Tell me you like my hat.

I've been devoting my time to complete a charity project for my local store, a Iliathan Warhost box, for free. It's not my usual stick of projects but I'm liking the experience.

u/meatshield_minis — 4 months ago