u/vangonemain

I had a game today where there was a flank Jeff, wolverine and a Captain America and the Jeff alone was killing our back line, even though I had two nests behind me, I was getting a bunch of assists and healing so I thought I was doing my job till I watch the match replay and I realised I was only healing the other tank lol

99% of the time my nests aren’t in the open to make sure the me or any other person playing on them isn’t exposed without cover
I had to go to chat and tell them to play on the nest and cap and Jeff will blow up. As soon as they did Jeff got blown up. Currently D3 but this also happens in GM3

Is there a reason why strategists don’t like playing on the webs and rather play elsewhere?

What are your hopes for the new season 9.5? Vanguard the hood?
Mine:

. I hope his duel pistols can pierce or if not do AOE damage like devil dinosaur cannon. It just helps to contest of angling DPS.
. Since he has energy projection, I’m guessing that would be like Emma‘s shield
. Mobility, his boots let him fly in the comic so he shouldn’t just be a tank that sits down main and has to pray his DPS can contest off-
angling enemies, I wanna be able to do it myself with some type of movement ability to quickly to get to high ground
. Invisibility is another one of his powers, maybe it’s a passive that activates when he has low health
. No egregious fall of damage or recoil. It’s already hard enough to aim at flyers whilst fighting the other tank in front of you.
. Some type of melee abilities to handle the heavy dive meta this season whether it’s transforming into his demon form or something else
. His passive could be the invisibility which could suggest dive capabilities.

And finally based off rumours that say he has a “clone projection” ability, I don’t know what that means exactly but I hope it doesn’t have crazy long cool downs like recent tanks have had like devil dinosaur and rogue (also give rogue her 100hp back)

And no, he should not be able to solo tank. There’s no such thing as a solo tank, solo dps or solo healer. Why do we have to be solo in a team game?

I’ve been looking to see if blade’s gun has changed and nothing was said in the patch notes, and I can’t find anyone testing his gun, but I swear it doesn’t do this much damage from over 30m. If I’m remembering correctly the optimal range is 20m not 30m+.

After the last few days of one tricking blade it made me wish he was a tank even more now, he has everything you need which we never get on the tank role. (I know if he was a tank he would’ve been gutted like tankpool so it’s better he stays DPS but y’all are feasting damn)

But After doing my service for a couple hundred hours on tank, I’ve started my DPS only Arc and it’s like playing a different game, it’s so much easier and I can’t help but play Blade like a tank, he’s a monster. He bullies everyone in a 1V1 or a brawl on point like Thor but with range. And if you nail the perfect distance, his gun feels like prime Elsa. I’m always surprised when the enemy players health just evaporates suddenly when I land the perfect shot

Also getting out of diamond was so easy on blade. I hit GM early on in the season tanking then deranked and I couldn’t get out of diamond 3,2 for this entire season and in 2 days. One tricking blade, I skated through it.

I always felt like a lot of DPS spend most of the time shooting tanks instead of higher priority targets like healers or the DPS that’s carrying on the enemy team but I could never could prove it. But it was true

Now after only Insta locking blade, all I did was make it my goal to kill a support every time i respawn and the game gets so much easier. That simple strat felt impossible on cap, rogue Peni, Emma strange. And since gambit is Perma banned it doesn’t matter when I want to play rogue because Blade has both damage and anti-heal without the need of a team up. And boy do I keep these tanks permanently anti-healed lol

After my last post, everyone was saying caps S tier because he’s annoying and can stall cart, well for my D3 rank up game I tried to be annoying and stall cart on last point. Does any part of this gameplay seem broken or unfair? How would you nerf him to make Captain America more balanced if you were to Nerf him?

. Tank health 675
. 350 shield health
. 45 damage on all melee attacks
. 1 second cooldown on he’s shield

Some people were suggesting he shouldn’t have unlimited sprint or jumps and it should be a meter like Jeff. But does that mean Hulk shouldn’t have unlimited jumps? Should Luna’s speed run be also on a meter? How about rockets wall run?

I understand cap is annoying and can stall cart but when’s the last time between season 0 and season 8.0 has that happened to a point you want want to ban him in your future games and you’re calling for nerfs?

. This hero has a below 3% pick rate for the majority of ranks but is S tier?
. Why does no one play this hero if he’s so busted?
. Cap Is S tier but he’s never perma banned?
. When’s the last time you saw a Captain America banned before flats tier list video?
. Devs and streamers said this is a casual game, so don’t expect perfect balancing
but we’re gonna rank a hero based of what the 0.1% of no name pro players say?
. I’ve got 120hrs hours on Captain America, why have I never seen my first cap Ban till today? (GM3)

Like clockwork, all the popular streamers have copy and paste tier list (the embargo lifted) and suddenly Captain America and rocket are best in the season yet at no point in eight seasons have they ever been rated so highly except by no name pro players?

I’ll call it what it is. I think these streamers have foreknowledge of the patch notes and it’s a way for the developers to not take so much heat or for gamers to go on strikes when they roll out nerfs.

Net ease have shown that they are firm believers that the Vanguard role isn’t meant to be strongor have any agency to look after themselves or secure kills by themselves.

that belief is also held by 80% of the player base which is made up of DPS mostly and supports. They hate having tanks being meta. every single tank that was above B tier has been nuked. I don’t see why any of the rumoured leaks like Thanos, hood, doom will be any different.

If they ever accidentally release a strong tank like Deadpool vanguard, a gigantic nerf, would hit that tank within a month. Meanwhile, Jubilee is going to be insane I’m sure just like white fox is now and cyclops.

I’m so over tanking, I’ve been only playing DPS this season and it feels like a different game. It’s so much easier. Plus you get so much more points which they still haven’t fixed however they’re fixed cyclops destroying any form of shield. lol

For the first time in a long time I said to myself after a good game, “I wish I could play with these people again,” As a solo, this would be one of the best features, I know obviously adding someone as a friend and joining with them is already a feature, but it’s not the same as stacking or duo queueing, More so queueing again with the team you just played with.

At least this way you don’t have the massive advantage you get when stacking that netease worries about so much they restricted stacking to 3 and two people the higher Elo you go
I think it would be great for the game and would indirectly solve a lot of matchmaking issues especially when you have such limited avoid slots and there are so many throwers in this game

We lost and no one played especially good but the point discrepancy in this role NetEase hates so much is insane.

This person went widow and started going AFK in spawn for no reason without saying a single word and wouldn’t surrender but even when you’re throwing you’re still better off picking a duelist role you have a negative wind rate on and throwing than trying to solo tank a 5 V6

I still lost a whole 24-points for trying and they lose the same amount I lose when someone completely DCs
Season 8.5 I won’t be touching any tank.

I’ve only been playing iron man since I saw this and I didn’t even realise you can get 32+ points in diamond for playing average and winning lol no wonder there’s so many people in diamond and GM with negative winrates, just keep queueing up and you’ll eventually climb

(I’m not speaking on high Elo like eternity and above just from GM and below)

what I’ve noticed over the time this game has been released is DPS mains will play the new duelist for a short while then drop them and go back to playing their mains like moon Knight punisher when they actually have to lock in in a ranked game if they want to win.

which is a huge reason why match quality is so bad too, you can pick the new hero and throw and still climb with a negative win rate because you get more points on the DPS role compared to the tank role. Where if you try to force the new hero you will continue to de-rank

I think each season should release for one role so each role has a few months with just two heroes before they get new ones
Because DPS mains quickly realise just because a hero is broken on release doesn’t mean they themselves are good with the hero. And they won’t develop that carry potential for weeks if not months with just that hero

However, I see a lot of crazy good white fox and rogue players even in diamond because they’ve simply had a long time in between hero releases to spend with one hero before moving to the next one.

The same thing will happen to cyclops. Black cat will fall to the wayside because the value black cat brings over any other dive hero will be minimal until months go by. You’ll be way better off playing your 80 hour Spider-Man or 100 hour BP than your new main black cat..

I predict Cyclops is gonna come out broken and then he will either be nerfed quickly or in a few weeks and he just becomes another poke/brawl hero like Elsa, Jean, buck, daredevil who will go to the wayside when they announce their releasing like nightcrawler or sentry and the cycle repeats.

The vanguards have made a clear as to why he would be a unique vanguard, so why do DPS mains want him to be a DPS and what would he add to the game over any other role or any other hero?

Here are the changes I want to see in season 8

. Double vanguard season
. Fix Peni cyber bond bug (it’s been there since season 0)
. Increase new Captain America shield throw speed by 30%
. Thing and rogue abilities do not stack tenacity
. Decrease the amount of points gained from winning in ranks up to gold by 30%.
. Decrease time to reach champion by 35% (there’s too many characters)
. Increase avoid slots to 10 and 5 day duration
. Repeated reports of the same player results in 24hr, 48hr & 72hr bans not 15minutes…
. Can’t play new heroes in ranked until you hit 2hrs playtime in quick play or against AI.
. Tank tax: if DPS get more points for damage dealt tanks should gain more points for
damage blocked. You shouldn’t get penalised for simply playing the role and getting
less points than everyone else who won

Did I miss anything?

peni’s bugs have actually increased since her “buff“ in 7.5 something has to be done. You can actually see the arms of EOMM holding me back.

(FIRSTLY! I don’t know how this character will play, but what I do know is how they depict their heroes in the trailers and Easter eggs is how they typically end up looking in game)

Our guesses in this sub about characters like rogue most likely being a brawl tank who can steal powers and black cat who will likely be a dive DPS with luck based powers was quite accurate to what we got seeing as we know how Netease likes to create characters now

I think after people mess around with DD in 18v18, QP for a few minutes and hit comp after 10 minutes to play him in ranked, they will get melted, chain CC’d, tenacity will somehow not take effect until you’re one shot and go back to their main.

moon Knight, Jean, punisher, or any poke hero will have a field day with this guy and with the prevalence of solo tanking getting worse and worse I don’t see how this hero won’t just be a slower less mobile Hulk

This is why us vanguard mains desperately want cyclops to be the tank btw. We already know most people will drop DD within minutes forever up on release. And I’ll be back to solo tanking as Captain America/Peni Parker/strange/tankpool for another season praying the next vanguard isn’t another melee type.

However! my personal hope for this hero is based on how he is depicted as small in his 3-D model in game but he is depicted as much larger in the 2-D Deadpool trailer and in certain comics his size has been changed multiple times through technology or otherwise which could give him access to a different kits in game like his big form would have more damage and damage reduction abilities and his small form will have higher mobility and wall hacks or something seeing as he’s known for his keen senses.

The only saving grace for me would be the addition of moon girl who would essentially armour up the dinosaur with shields guns and other abilities but there has been zero depiction of her in the entire game. Meaning if she even comes she will be an aged up separate hero. And instead, DD will be solo melee tank and be a team up anchor with Deadpool were Deadpool maybe gets damage reduction and is able to ride the dino and shoot his guns, maybe even be able to press his E which could be cool I guess. That’s probably what the Jeff emote where people ride his back was hinting towards.

“but that’s just a theory, a game theory!”

And his ultimate is him transforming into big form like white fox

Personally, I imagine close range, high mobility, brawl (reed richard esq) damage reduction, wall hack’s potentially via primal senses, basically Jeff if he was a duellist