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Service Tech Backpack/tool bag what do you use

Getting pretty tired of carrying my backpack with my laptop, router, switch, device etc and my tool bag. I have a mini tool bag that fits in my backpack but I’m starting to wonder if it’s easier to just get a tool backpack. Have all electronics in some sort of pouch and then tools as well. Half the jobs I won’t need my tools just bring precision maybe a flathead just. Any insights or experiences that have helped?

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u/Pudrin — 11 hours ago

Work Life Balance

Out of curiosity how is your work life balance, what role in BAS do you have, and what size shop do you work for? This is a great industry that I find super interesting, but as I get older it just seems less and less possible to have a life with this job. Maybe it’s the smaller shop I’m at? Curious what others are experiencing.

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u/Advanced_Goal_5576 — 13 hours ago
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First interview with Siemens

I am currently a maintenance tech at target with prior experience working for amazon in RME. I have about a total of 2 years experience in maintenance and will say I'm still a beginner when it comes to electrical but a lot better with mechanical.

I just got an opportunity to have a phone interview which will most likely lead to an in person interview with Siemens for the building automation system specialist role.

I want to know for one if I have a realistic chance of getting this role with my experience and two what all do I need to brush up on for the interview process to successfully get this role.

*I am somewhat familiar with BMS as we used johnson controls at my Amazon site.

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u/YoHino- — 12 hours ago

What kind of training does your place offer?

Just wondering how training works at your place. I know large places like Siemens, JCI, have their large in-house programs.
Did your place create a training path? Using a 3rd party service like sas?

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u/PlanMaison — 21 hours ago

N4 migration 3.8-4.15

Has anyone even attempted this spam of a migration?

I performed this the other day and an odd thing happened. After commissioning the Jace with the migrated backup it would fail on the passphrase, it is the correct passphrase. I did the big file protection step and reset it. That part did work. But after that none of my station passwords worked. I ran the file locally and was able to login to station, with the same username and password! Will not login to station on Jace. Now I have a Jace that I can not log into. Maybe because it went too far in versions on the migration? Checked logs and no errors so I am out of ideas.

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u/ebag_98 — 24 hours ago

Beyond HVAC: What weird or non-HVAC systems have you integrated using BACnet?

BACnet is the standard for HVAC, but I’m curious about real-world use cases outside heating, ventilation, and cooling.
Have you ever used or integrated BACnet for non-HVAC trades like access control, fire alarm panels, smoke control, lighting gateways, lab monitoring, or power infrastructure ?
How did it perform ?

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u/gabriel--gg — 2 days ago
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How can I get more engineering projects and clients? Looking for advice & support 🙏

Hi everyone,

I've been working in the engineering field for several years, and after struggling for a long time with the ups and downs of the industry, I finally decided to start my own engineering services business in India.

I'm putting everything I have into building this from the ground up, but honestly, getting a consistent flow of clients and projects has been much harder than I expected. That's why I'm reaching out to this community for some genuine advice, guidance and support.

We provide on-demand engineering support for companies that need additional delivery capacity without the cost and delays of permanent hiring.

What we offer:

  • MEPF engineering
  • ELV/ICT/IBMS design & commissioning — Honeywell EBI, Schneider EBO, Niagara & Johnson Controls Metasys
  • BIM & CAD services — Revit, AutoCAD, Navisworks, ACC etc.

Our key advantages:

  • Flexible resources — scale up or down based on workload
  • 7 days/week, 365 days/year working
  • Start projects without recruitment delays
  • Lower recruitment, training and overhead costs
  • Centralised project delivery rather than depending on individual freelancers
  • Ability to support projects across different time zones
  • Experience supporting projects across India, USA, Middle East, Canada, Europe and APAC

The technical capability and delivery team are there. What I'm struggling with is getting in front of the right people and converting that capability into consistent projects.

I'm looking for opportunities both in India and internationally.

For those who have successfully built an engineering/BIM/MEP services business:

  • How did you get your first few clients?
  • Which channels actually worked — LinkedIn, cold email, partnerships, referrals, industry networks, etc.?
  • Are there specific platforms or marketplaces for MEP/BIM/engineering services?
  • How do you approach engineering consultants, contractors, developers and EPC companies?
  • For international clients, how did you overcome the initial trust/credibility barrier?
  • In India, which networks or channels have actually helped you find projects?
  • What mistakes should someone avoid when starting an engineering services business?
  • How did you go from getting occasional projects to building a consistent pipeline?

And if anyone here works with an engineering firm that regularly needs overflow/offshore engineering capacity, I'd genuinely appreciate a referral, introduction, or even just a conversation.

I'm not asking for anyone to hand me a business. I'm trying to build something of my own after years of struggling, and I could really use some guidance from people who have already walked this path.

Any practical advice, experience, connection, lead or referral would genuinely mean a lot.

Thank you. 🙏

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u/AloneYetPowerful — 2 days ago

Is there still a real gap in low-cost 3-phase energy monitoring, or has this space been fully solved?

Hey all, I work in precision instrumentation, and lately I've been kicking around the idea of building a low-cost energy monitoring device for commercial panels (3-phase power, PF, kWh, DIN-rail mount, reporting over Modbus). Before I actually build anything I wanted to get a reality check from people who deal with this stuff for a living.

  1. what do you all actually use for submetering or panel-level monitoring? Is it working well, or is there something about it that bugs you every time you spec a job? I keep seeing names like Veris, eGauge, and Accuenergy come up, so if you've used any of those I'd love to hear the good and the bad.

  2. if a device like this even gets chosen on a project, is that usually the integrator's call, or does the engineer/owner already have something in mind before you show up?

  3. on the protocol side, I was assuming Modbus RTU over RS-485 as the baseline, but have things basically moved to BACnet or Modbus TCP at this point?

If the honest answer is "this is a solved problem, don't bother," genuinely tell me that. I'd rather hear it now. Appreciate any input.

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u/cyberyard — 2 days ago
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Schneider EGX300 RS485 signal ground for PM9C

I've got one Schneider EGX300 (and also one EGX100) lying around. I'd like to utilize them to get the data from a bunch of PM9C energy meters via RS485.
All PM9C are 230V - powered.
The EGX300/EGX100 would be PoE - powered.

I'm a 100% noob in RS485, so maybe my question is trivial. But I find the docs somewhat self-contradictory regarding the "0V" contact in this case, so it would be nice if someone would clarify this to me.

According to the "PowerLogic System Catalogue 2011" EGX100 and PM9C were explicitly advertised as compatible (btw, it's a bit weird to have "PM9" instead of "PM9C" or at least "PM9P" on the right, I guess that's just a typo):

Catalogue 2011

According to the PM9C manual, RS485 got the following contacts:

  1. D0, A/A' 
  2. D1, B,B'
  3. 0V, Common

The drawing from the PM9C installation guide shows a separate cable shied (wrapped around 3 wires, including "common" aka "0V"). The shield is not connected to the "0V" / "Common" :

PM9C manual

According to the EGX300-Installation-Guide, on the EGX300 side, RS485 (in the half-duplex configuration) got the following contacts:

  1. TX+ (unused in half-duplex)
  2. TX-  (unused in half-duplex)
  3. RX+
  4. RX-
  5. Shield

There's no explicit "0V" / signal ground.
I'm not sure if the "Vdc-" (contact 6, the "input power when not using PoE") could be treated like "0V".
The recommended cable is "Belden 9841", which is a single twisted pair (shielded).

EGX300-Installation-Guid

According to the "Modbus™ Communications System for MicroLogic™ A, P, and H Trip Units Instruction Bulletin", "0V" is just "Vdc-". In a scenario with a shared DC power source. It does not mention ether PoE or multiple separate DC power sources. Also, it's about 4-wire scenario and a different product.

https://preview.redd.it/nxv5wf6yqljh1.png?width=1011&format=png&auto=webp&s=9fbb4dff5bf4f4e27fce2e17a47c08383f20dfe7

According to the most detailed (yet somewhat unofficial) PM9C-related info I found (the "Resolving PM9C Schneider Power Meter Modbus Communication" by Claire Rousseau):

>Rules for SG wiring:

  1. Connect PM9C SG directly to the Modbus master's RS-485 common/SG terminal.
  2. Do not connect SG to protective earth (PE) at the PM9C end. The meter's SG is a logic reference, not a safety ground.
  3. Do not create a multi-point ground by also bonding SG to PE at the master — this forms a ground loop that injects 50/60 Hz noise into the data lines and may damage the transceivers.
  4. Use twisted pair for A/B and a third conductor for SG within the same overall cable jacket to keep the reference close to the data pair.

Why does my PM9C not respond even with correct baud, parity, and address?
The most common cause is a missing signal-common (SG) wire. The PM9C's RS-485 transceiver requires SG connected to the master's RS-485 common terminal. Without it, the common-mode voltage drifts outside the EIA-485 receiver range and the slave ignores all frames. Wire SG and re-test before suspecting the meter itself.

So... What's is the correct approach?

  1. Use "Belden 9841" (or equivalent "1 twisted pair + shield").
    • connect the cable shield to "0V" on PM9C
  2. Use "Belden 9842" (or equivalent "2 twisted pairs + shield")
    • connect wire-1 from the second twisted pair to "0V" on PM9C
    • connect wire-1 from the second twisted pair to "Shield" on EGX300
    • connect the cable shield to "Shield" on EGX300 as well
    • connect the cable shield to external protective earth (once, at any point)
  3. Use "Belden 9842" (or equivalent "2 twisted pairs + shield")
    • connect wire-1 from the second twisted pair to "0V" on PM9C
    • connect wire-1 from the second twisted pair to "Vdc-" (contact 6) on EGX300
    • connect the cable shield to "Shield" on EGX300.
    • connect the cable shield to external protective earth (once, at any point).
  4. ....

The EGX300 terminals, just for reference (from EGX300 - User Guide.pdf):

https://preview.redd.it/hsv15r46vljh1.png?width=2063&format=png&auto=webp&s=4cb8957a8675640e9f0fbc2c0867e7a38194b337

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u/i3v — 3 days ago

HVAC vs electrical experience as a BAS tech.

For experienced BAS/controls techs, which background would you prefer when hiring?

Electrical: strong electrical, wiring, controls, and troubleshooting experience, limited HVAC knowledge.

HVAC: strong HVAC/mechanical knowledge, limited electrical experience.

Which background gives a better foundation for BAS, and where does each have an advantage or disadvantage?
Especially interested in opinions from techs who transitioned into BAS from either trade.

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u/amuizme — 4 days ago

How to format time on a PX Graphic

I got my station time displayed on a graphic by creating a boundlabel, binding it to "station:|slot:/" and the text format is %time()%. I've figured out how to extract days, hours, minutes, etc. but how do i change the format of this text string? For example, instead of giving me the entire date/time/timezone, i'd like to just display HH:MM a. I swear this is easy and I used to know how to do this, but I've been searching everywhere and coming up empty handed.

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u/MrMagooche — 4 days ago

How much experience do I need if my long-term goal is to become an estimator?

Currently a Technician II. Love my job, but I’ve taken an interest in an estimator role. I have about 2 1/2 years of experience. Do I need to become a master wizard of a controls technician before making this career change?

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u/Glum_Potato808 — 5 days ago

Convert 0-10v output to digital output

Does anyone have any modules they use to convert your 0-10v output to a relay output?

I have used EASY IO FR-02 and they work but are expensive.

Others have recommended driving a 12vdc relay, this turns the light on the relay but doesn’t energise the coil.

The bms output is very low current so cannot drive low voltage delay coils.

I have also seen the use of voltage comparators, optocouplers etc

Any advice on reliable cheap solutions?

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u/sonnyboyv — 7 days ago

Using a JACE for routing only?

I have used the Cimetrics B3070 ip to ip router before to build a private BAS LAN but the customer is leaning niagra, just not right now. The is a very large site.

Has anyone used a jace to route bacnet traffic to a non niagra front end?

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u/unrested_aesthetic — 5 days ago

SaaS Application Idea

I’m planning to build a small SaaS product and I’m looking for real problems worth solving.

Instead of asking for random SaaS ideas, I’d love to hear about problems you personally face:

What repetitive task do you hate doing?

What do you currently use Excel/Google Sheets for?

What software is unnecessarily complicated or expensive?

What do you wish had a simple tool?

Is there something you currently do manually that could be automated?

What SaaS product do you use but think could be much better?

I’m particularly interested in small, practical SaaS products that one developer can build and maintain.

If you could build one tool for yourself today, what would it do?

Please share the problem, your current workaround, and roughly how often you face it.

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u/iam_ramkumar — 6 days ago

New: A Modern Alarm Console for Niagara 4

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We built a completely redesigned alarm console for Niagara 4, tested and refined across our own projects for the past while. Now we're making it available to the wider community for a nominal licensing fee. Works on v4.11+

✅ Completely redesigned, modern UI (dark & light modes)

✅ Color-coded alarms by priority — critical alarms stand out at a glance

✅ Mandatory acknowledge notes with configurable dropdown reasons

✅ One-switch toggle between Live and Historical alarms

✅ Quick search/filter by source, class, or message

✅ New Duration & Live Value columns for real-time context

✅ Resizable and reorderable columns — build the view your team needs

Built by integrators, for integrators, and battle-tested on live sites before going anywhere near a release.

📩 DM us for pricing, a demo, or to get it running on your station.

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u/Harry-red12 — 5 days ago

JCI SNE/CVM/CGM capabilities within a Niagara Server

Say you have roughly $1 million plus of newly installed SNEs and ongoing projects that will result and another $2-3 million of JCI field devices but its been decided that the server should transition to Niagara. The plan is to integrate these SNEs straight to the Niagara server. What will be biggest pain points/ limitations. IE will it be possible to view the SNEs LCT, interlocks etc directly from the server, is there something akin to the engineering tab within Metasys where you can get a glimpse of the inner workings of the programs etc. Any insights or feedback is appreciated, My experience is heavy in Metasys, light in Niagara, not opposed but wish it was more thought out.

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u/More_Fondant_9609 — 7 days ago