r/ClancyTrial

All her questions are like

Were you aware that on the anniversary of the incident the defendant was in a mental hospital on suicide watch and that she was playing dominos in the common room?

What’s her point? Fair to say she was doing great?

The DA might need a night or two with the grippy socks. Then she can report back if she felt like coloring or making a phone call would be indicative of her enjoying her life to the fullest.

Does anyone else wonder why when prosecution asked Patrick about going out to dinner at a Boston hotel for their anniversary on December 3rd, Reddington came back with asking him about that same anniversary dinner but he mentioned the date Saturday December 2nd? This bugs me…

WHY did he choose the Omni Parker house?
Most guys go with what they know when making plans… Had he been there before? Did he know of someone staying there? Had his current wife stayed there before? What’s with the conflicting dates?

Weird to anyone else besides me?

What do you guys think? Do you believe Redd is this confident to win? 😮

https://x.com/foxusnews/status/2090076976744989096?s=46

Barometric Pressure & "Flights Climbed" Anomalies

The barometric pressure theory stems directly from how Apple devices track elevation changes:

The Mechanism: iPhones and Apple Watches do not use GPS to count flights of stairs. Instead, they use an internal barometric altimeter to detect changes in atmospheric pressure. The system registers 1 flight of stairs when it detects a continuous pressure drop equivalent to roughly 10 feet (3 meters) in elevation gain, combined with the rhythmic motion of walking.

Commercial HVACS & Pressure Doors: Large retail spaces like CVS pharmacies feature heavy automatic double doors, commercial HVAC air locks, and pressurized entryways. Passing through these doorways or moving between a sealed outdoor environment and a high-pressure commercial interior can trigger a brief, sudden drop/spike in localized barometric pressure.

When comparing the court evidence from the CVS surveillance video with the digital testimony given by the Cellebrite forensics expert (Ian Whiffin), the exact minutes match up directly:

1. The Recorded CVS Timeline vs. Apple Health

CVS Surveillance Video: Store security footage confirmed Patrick entered the CVS at 5:32:32 p.m., spent a few minutes in the children's medication aisle (Aisle 20), paid, and exited the store at 5:37:08 p.m. 
Apple Health Logged Event: The Cellebrite expert testified that Lindsay's iPhone recorded a stair-climb event with a start timestamp of 5:33:34 p.m. and an end timestamp of 5:38:33 p.m. 

The Five-Minute Span: The expert explained in court that Apple Health logged two distinct elevation shifts ("flights") within that exact ~5-minute window and grouped them into one single entry spanning 5:33 to 5:38 p.m. 

2. How the Alignment Supports the Theory

If Patrick was holding or carrying her iPhone/Apple Watch while running his errand:

1. The Entry Spike (~5:33 p.m.): Patrick walked into the CVS at 5:32:32 p.m. Moving through the pressurized double doors or vestibule of the CVS while walking triggers an immediate shift in atmospheric pressure. The iPhone's barometric altimeter registers this pressure drop as a "flight climbed" at 5:33:34 p.m. 

2. The Exit Spike (~5:38 p.m.): Patrick exited the CVS at 5:37:08 p.m. Passing back through the commercial airflow and entry doors to the outside environment triggers the second barometric pressure change, logging the second "flight" at 5:38:33 p.m. 

3. The Watch & Heart Rate Factor: The digital expert confirmed that these two 5:33–5:38 p.m. flight-climb events were logged only on the iPhone, not on the Apple Watch (which had already ceased recording heart rates at 5:23 p.m.).

Because Apple Health aggregates barometric changes detected over short periods, the 5:32:32 p.m. entry and 5:37:08 p.m. exit times from the CVS cameras create an exact 1-to-1 mirror for the 5:33:34 p.m. to 5:38:33 p.m. Apple Health entry. Rather than representing someone walking up and down stairs inside the home during those 5 minutes, the forensic footprint strongly supports physical movement through the pressurized entrance of a retail store while holding the device.

4. How the Watch Syncs Data to the iPhone
If an Apple Watch is taken off a wrist but carried around while turned on, it continues to gather motion and elevation data:

Background Bluetooth/Wi-Fi Sync: The Apple Watch continuously syncs its cached sensor logs to the paired iPhone in the background.

The "Primary Source" Hierarchy: In the Apple Health app, both the iPhone and the Apple Watch have internal barometric altimeters that record "Flights Climbed". Apple Health aggregates this data to avoid double-counting. If a person is holding both devices or moving with the watch, Apple Health attributes the elevation change to whichever device it considers the primary data source for that timeframe - or logs it as a combined event on the iPhone's Health app. 

Is that what happened today? Anyone know? What happens now?

Resources:

• Documents & Evidence
• Prosecution Witness Summaries with Timestamps & Videos
• Common Misconceptions About the Criminal Trial

Hello, i’ve been following this case for a couple weeks and i just came across the photos of Lindsay Clancy’s clothing that was recovered at the hospital (the clothing that paramedics/hospital staff removed to treat her). i’m not sure if this means anything but i find it interesting that she was wearing jeans and a tank top with a bra. idk about you, but if i’ve been home for a few hours, my jeans and bra would be long gone. obviously some people may choose to wear jeans and a bra around the house i guess but i feel like in general most women don’t usually wear jeans and a bra when they’ve been home for a few hours. Just a thought. i’m not sure if this means anything but i just wanted to share

Trigger warning:

I watched a documentary today about post partum illness, more specifically depression and psychosis.

Its called "When the Bough Breaks." (There is a movie by the same name. It's the documentary)I found it on Prime for no extra charge. It contains personal interviews with women who have experienced post partum as well as a couple of husbands/partners. For me it was very informative and sad. I cried. *There is discussion of infanticide and suicide. May be triggering for some women here.*

There is more discussion about it in the Netflix sub reddit.

Is anyone else thinking what I am? Think Patrick replaced pills in her bottles??!

Does anyone know why there isn't any camera footage from the first responders and first police at the scene? Don't they care body cameras in the U.S.?

Reddington really doesn’t seem like the best lawyer everyone has been making him out to be. I understand he probably feels like he’s fighting a losing battle, but realistically, he’s not. Letting the Commonwealth continue with their BS instead of objecting is just going to make the jury stop paying attention. If the jury becomes disinterested or tunes out, that’s ultimately going to hurt the defense because they’re going to be less engaged with their case. And then there was the missed opportunity for a mistrial when the Commonwealth misstated the evidence. That was a pretty significant moment where I feel like the defense should have pushed back harder instead of letting it slide. He also just seems tired and unorganized today, which isn’t helping the defense’s case at all. Did he really think it was smart to handle this case all by himself?

From what we were able to hear yesterday, Dr. Ziezsel was the very first person to have access to Lindsay after what happened. He mentioned lending her his phone out of human compassion so she could call her husband, which she did, she even expressed how much she “loved him” and checked up on him.

Now tell me why this woman then went on to request a lawyer to change her healthcare proxy, specifically wanting to remove her husband and replace him with her parents. What did he say to her during that call that made her suddenly change her mind?

For the record, he never attempted to check on her during the entire time she was recovering, nor did he ever try to ask her for any further details about what had happened after that call. The man seemed completely content with the brief phone conversation and the explanation she gave him over the phone.

It just doesn’t make any sense.

This prosecutor is a complete mess. She seems to be trying to establish that Lindsay Clancy “got better” before the murders or that she was “doing fine?!” This is a total flop. If she was mentally better, she wouldn’t have killed the kids! Nobody who’s doing mentally well would kill their kids It just seems like nonsense to be like “you asked how she was and she said a little better? Is that correct?” Her case is so weak because she can’t establish a pattern of abuse or a malice or hatred towards the kids or her husband.

Also, when ALL of the living survivors of this tragedy believe that Lindsay was experiencing psychosis and was doing everything she could to get help, what good does it do to drag them through this brutal and horrific process. I know she has to be tried, but it’s so crazy that it’s every grieving member of this family versus this prosecutor who is using weak and unusual tactics and putting this family through more trauma with her questioning that fails to add anything to the facts of the case.

And don’t get me started on the creepy bows.

So I see your guy’s “evidence” I do. But also like Lindsey literally described what she heard explained how she did it and said she could see herself from 3rd person POV but couldn’t control her body. She states she whispered “go with God baby” when she was doing it over and over. How would she have this memory if Patrick was the one who did it?

Or are you guys theorizing he drugged her or told her this story before she was fully with it to know the difference between truth and fiction?

The algorithm has been drowning me in this case, and, with how many inconsistencies got to trial, I'm shocked that at the very least, the fact he COULD have done it and not be properly investigated is super scary for what it means for all other cases.

However, today's watch thing that everyone says means he did it, is actually making me think he maybe didn't. If the watch went up stairs while he was on camera on the 1st store, how could that be him moving her upstairs? I saw someone says the different air pressure at the store could trigger it (can it??), but if that's the case, wouldn't the watch detected more stuff, like car speeds or more steps taken? And would that mean the 57 heart rate was actually his? Or was the watch on her but she was going upstairs by herself while he was on camera?

(I also can't really buy the Rachel did it thing. All it would take would be someone describing the crime to Lindsay for her to "see herself doing it from out of her body, ocam's razor... I mean, a new couple just trusted each other to decide to go and K 3 people together?? I'd be more likely to believe the 1st store guy is his best friend)

It still doesn't explain the temperature and his basement window view and the that weird friend group (the doctor ant the da that bought the house), but the watch thing seems to not add up to either story and it's really confusing me.

people keep saying " you wouldnt want to waste time running to the window" but wouldnt you run to the window so you could see what happened first, then you could call 911 from there, by the time you got outside 911 would be there. he said 911 came within 5 mins of him calling. it wouldnt be faster to go run outside and see what happened than it would be to run to the window, which IMO is what any person would think to do first.

And Sprague thought that she ate with that take. She thought that that take was going to help her win this case.

They’re grasping at straws here. Must take some real guts to be them. I can’t watch this