r/DebateIncelz

question, not really a debate since im curious on the mindset. i made a vent post on here before which didnt get much interaction but did end up in me getting angry dms from self proclaimed truecels telling me i cant suffer due to my xx chromosones and im appropriating sadness, ive heard this online before as well and am just curious to hear the reasons why, this post isnt exactly for debate but to get some insight. thanks

This always baffled me on so many axes. One being political, for example, so many leftists and socialists chanting equality and wanting everyone to have opportunity yet always find sexual marxism as a form of fascism and telling incels how nobody owes them anything when same thing can apply to economy yet hypocritically in that field they'd think everyone deserves equal money or something. Basically communists being communists only economically but not in every other field.

The other being how people always rush to engage in empathy and compassion for people who deal with personal issues like heartbreaks, breakups, r word, and so many other horrid or mild stuff alike but when it comes to being sad for being ignored by a whole gender they're always negatively targeted, shunned, outcasted, virtue signaled on, and using reverse timeline fallacy like "well incels are hateful and violent so it suits" when we all know it all started out the other way around and they like to swap cause and symptom in their favor.

But why none of this happens in any other struggle?

It's a simple question, I like seeing how people think, and what thought processes led you to become 'Incel' and my question is open to everyone who wishes to answer, Red pill, Black pill and what ever else there is. If you don't wish to answer on a public forum, you can message me privately on discord, at The Analyzer.

I would like to hear everything, and anything. No matter how small you think it is.

I'm editing this to say: I will not be responding to each individual anymore, not because I do not wish to talk, but simply because I need to spend the next 2-3 days focusing on my garden so that I may plant my cold weather crops.

It seems like many of you are in a vicious cycle of self hate, loathing, toxic ideals of masculinity and femininity.

If it was true that your life is only like this because you've been dealt a bad hand, explain how it is someone like me, was able to better myself. I'm a short, fat woman, with fucked up teeth, stained and broken molars, who doesn't shave often because who gives a fuck about body hair, and chronic acne especially across my back, shoulders and chest.

I'm autistic, with chronic anxiety, severe PTSD, borderline personality disorder, a pinched nerve in my spine and insomniatic tendencies.

I've been through the foster system, was the fourth eldest child, and second eldest daughter in a family of 25 people, been a victim of SA, being used for only my body and never wanting to be seen with men out in public because they didn't want to be seen with the fat chick, found out one of my brothers was a PDF after everything I went through, (I wont lie I almost attacked him) and I have another brother who's schizophrenic and believes I'm his wife. Lost many I thought were friends and had a homophobic, antivax, Mormon mother, who called me overweight, forced me, and only me out of all my siblings in to diets that made hate myself, and I was kicked out of home for being a weed smoker, and was forced to drive 2300 miles across the states to find a safe space, homeless with my dog, and on the verge of ending myself twice.

But never once have I said life cannot get better for me, and the same goes for the rest of you. There is never a, "things can't get better, I'm fucked until the end of time."

If you keep telling yourself that, your mind can truly believe that because it's a mental issue.

Many of you say, you are ugly and short, and that's your problem. It's absolutely not, I know many people who are friends, and in fandoms as I, who would absolutely go for the craziest looking characters. For example, I know friends, and even my own significant other, absolutely adore Franco Barbi from Outlast, he's not my cup of tea, I like Chris walker or even doctor Easterman. But there are many people out there who genuinely do not give a damn about height and looks. And frankly many of you do need to see further than your own hand, if you're going to make your way out of this dark room you've put yourselves in.

You cannot help someone, who does not want help.

im a guy who goes to high school,and im in 11th grade through american standards. Im not attracted to any girl in my class or school. Im not currently actively seeking out a relationship either.

Im quite lonely. i dont hang out with anyone and i barely talk to my friends who go to other schools. But there is something.... Every time i see online or in real life a couple i feel something. It ranges from happiness for them,sadness for me and sometimes envy. I have never been in a romantic relationship before,and even if i said before im currently not seeking them id still want to feel romantic love. Its not even necessarily about sex anymore.

Im not very popular or liked by girls in my class,they sometimes make fun of me but other boys at school can be even more cruel.

From what i said,am a involuntarily celibate person/incel?

Or, just imagine we're in a simulation and the new update adds a 3rd sex to the game. How would the whole dynamic change? Would this solve the incel problem and/or gender wars? Instead of binary we would have a tertiary gender society where attraction was triangular instead of symmetric, and heterosexuality would be considered being attracted to the other two sexes (men into women and XZ, women into men and XZ and XZ into women and men).

I don't know how the biological aspect would work, I assume it'd be a new chromosome such as XZ or YZ or ZZ (3 variants? Unless YZ and ZZ are hypothetically unviable)

Would this make things better or worse?

While I’m not a fan of the connotation surrounding colloquial “incels”. But I do wish that there public gatherings place for people like us. Having normal friends is good and all but especially around my age it seems like most of our conversations are dominated by relationships/girls despite my attempts to steer them back towards better topics(anime, gaming, etc..).

I feel like this would be very helpful for so many of us since it provide us with a real way to normalize perpetual romantic solitude. I feel like friends and family that find relationships unintentionally impact me by quietly making me feel odd and unusual.

Is this something that you all have thought too?