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Questions as an amateur smith with ideas for gunwork

I recently got into firearms in February with my first gun being an AR15, and my pistol being a P211 GTO obtained in May. I initially got into guns cause I fell in love with disassembling and studying them, and now cleaning them is an additional interest I’ve added to the list of things I enjoy. I’ve done a lotta work on both guns, namely installations and modifications to make stuff like a 22LR conversion kit FRT-able and tuning 1911-style pistols due to the similarity to my GTO. I feel I’ve made a lot of improvements from the successes and failures I’ve encountered as someone simply learning from YouTube and books.

Recently I was able to diagnose a light primer strike issue with my GTO that even Sig was unable to identify. Then using the knowledge I gained from essentially being forced to intimately understand how the internal parts functioned, I attempted to do light polishing and trigger work on a Ruger SR1911 with it being a success. 4.5lbs to 3lbs trigger weight reduction and smoother slide action with no trigger creep. The GTO went from 3.6-3.9lbs from factory to 2.5lbs with more ideas swirling inside my mind every time I think about it.
And of course, my rifle has been hit with rotary tools, files, drills, all in the journey to translate a functioning 5.56 FRT to perform just as well with the 22LR conversion bolt to open up more usage scenarios for the rifle, like in pistol caliber only ranges. And there’s a gaping cut in the lower for the fitting of an ambi bolt catch designed to be used in Sig’s rifle.

With the backstory laid out, what’s a good way for me to dive into the world of doing custom gun work and cleaning? I initially wanted to just do mobile guncleaning since it was a simple business idea, I loved doing it, and it was a very scarce listing in the areas I lived in. That dream was kinda cut short by someone telling me I had to be an FFL in order to do something like that, and even if I wanted to just be a mobile cleaning service, I still needed to register an FFL under a static address. The apartments I live in currently don’t approve of anyone running a business out of their home, I’m assuming in reference to ones that would involve customer traffic. But I met a gunsmith recently that said, with the disclaimer that they were not a lawyer, if I was going to their house or using a location like a gun store to clean their gun without them leaving it overnight, it would technically be okay as a non-FFL since I’m not manufacturing anything and reselling it? I don’t know the specifics of the law and wording of it, but he seemed to suggest that I can take it apart and clean it, reassemble it and return it, and get paid without having to be an FFL. I’m not really interested in the money, but I don’t wanna be fully booked as a charity guncleaning service either, so my goal isn’t to try to protect trade secrets as most others have tried scolding me for being lax about.

My questions would be:

* is there any way I can do this without an FFL?
* if it’s required to be an FFL, does the guest room of the apartment work as a workroom, if I use it to hold all my gunsmithing tools and stuff?
* does having someone do a bill of sale of $0 or a low amount for the duration that I’m holding the firearm to clean it get around the possession perspective? Like I gift to you, you clean, then gift back.
* if I can do no-FFL guncleaning or whatnot, what’s the extent of my services without getting in trouble? Does installing a scope for someone count as “manufacturing”? I believe the gunsmith explained it to me, but my memory is poor

I know not to take everything as truth, as it’s probably best to check with a lawyer or some sort that’s experienced with licensing and stuff. But I do wanna hear suggestions and maybe find someone who has had experience with similar aspirations that I have.

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u/SleepingAndKissing — 11 days ago
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Shipping NFA Items via Freight

I work for a small firearms/suppressor manufacturing company. (07/02). We have a large event coming up out of state and my boss wants me to ship numerous items via palletized freight ahead of our travel to the event. This includes but is not limited to multiple suppressors, post-sample machine guns, and other firearms. I am not getting no for an answer, so I’m asking if this is even something that anybody here has done. (Really more trying to find convincing arguments I can use AGAINST doing this).

Even ignoring the post-sample issue, I cannot find a freight broker who is even willing to ship NFA. We’ve always gone through FedEx Express for Form 3 transfers but I don’t think that would work here for the quantity I’m being asked to ship. Any advice is more than appreciated.

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u/Bright-Chair4284 — 13 days ago