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He's an exhibitionist, i know it

This is something i have noticed to be quite common among strictly eng. localisation players, the so called "Caleb mains".

I even shared some examples here once before in my previous posts. Basically, i feel like Caleb is liked on a surface level, where he's perceived as this cool, hot looking guy next door, as is typical in western romance dramas and whatnot and is basically molded into that lens of a character because the original intended version is uncomfortable for alot of western players.

And that's fine, really, you don't have to like his actual trope, you're allowed to feel uncomfortable. However, i don't think it's very fair to bend over backwards and perform mental gymnastics trying to get across and "explain'' how english version is an alternative take on his character: It's not, it's literally not, it's just there to serve as a more sanitised version and that's it - the fact remains that alot of nuance, actual intention and context gets stripped away and i can't stress enough about this. Much less how you don't personally feel comfortable with the level of possessiveness and obsession he exhibits so much so that you'll resort to inventing baseless scenarios to get your point across and further sanitise the character. (Generally speaking here.) At that point, it's not Caleb, it's an OC and for some reason, he's the one that suffers the most from this phenomena among the eng. fans.

And even in the eng. version, his obsession is still point blank clear and very much on the nose so i will never understand people that insist he's not all about his sister. Time and time again, we see Caleb being indifferent towards others, disregarding of the actual civilisation if it means MC is gonna be safe. His ambitions, his life, everything, it's all about us(MC). In a world without meimei, he's distant, cold, dismissive and i don't think that's a writing flaw, that's very much intentional because we ARE his everything, one and the same. Everything falls back onto us at the end of the day.

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One other thing, Caleb strikes me very much as a social chameleon, he's good at putting on a face, he's good at lying, he'll lie even to MC just to protect her, keep her safe and you know what? He feels awful about it but he'll do it anyway! At times, he'll even disregard our own feelings, all for the sake of protection. That's how obsessed and possessive he is. I mean, c'mon really, you don't just say to someone "I want to build a maze/house just for the two of us" - you don't repeat over and over, reference, reinforce how you want a world where it's just the two of you, away from everything and everyone if you're not a pathologically obsessed maniac who doesn't really care about anything or anyone outside of your only destination and reason.

That's why it's always funny to me when people try to force this hyper independence onto him just for the sake of preserving their own bias and justifying their discomfort over what and who he actually is. Yes, Caleb IS independent as an individual, he doesn't need to rely on others to get what he wants, to accomplish his goals, to protect MC but he very much IS codependent on her just as much as she is on him, they simply can't be without the other even when they're separated, they will inevitably reunite. He even keeps reiterating himself: we should be like the sun and the sky, always dependent on each other no matter what.

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It's not that Caleb doesn't have a life of his own, it's that his life doesn't have a meaning without his meimei and if that bothers you to no end, so much so that you have to, again, bend over backwards just to preserve your "attraction" to his character, then perhaps he's just not the love interest/main for you. (generally speaking, again.)

But of course, i think that people need to remember that this is a pure fantasy game at the end of the day and just because alot of us enjoy something in fiction, that doesn't mean we endorse it in real life.

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I also just got tired of the censorship present in the eng. ver so much that i raised my hands in defeat and switched to JP, at least i can understand some context there, if anything.

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Basically Caleb is essentially yandere done right.

With all that said and done, his dick doesn't stand up for anything or anyone that's not MC - so hey, it's not by his choice, it's by MCs.

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Thank you for coming to yet another one of my "In defense of Caleb's original trope" ted yaps.

Hi u just wanna vent im not playing lads anymore however i still make fanarts of them, so i wanna know whats new in the community.. And all i see is ppl dragging lads for the drink thingy :( The purity culture has gone INSANE and the incels taking this as a chance to further demonize the game is so overwhelming. Like are we seriously thinking a grown woman would be this infant </3 And the big creator are joining to cover this drama too like Bran oh my god he pmo so bad acting like a saint all he does is being m1sogynistic