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Realistic goals? Too much, too little? Beginner in Japanese

Hey together,

Last year I started learning Japanese, but got burned out too quickly. Tha main issue was that I set myself a unrealistic goal (learn Japanese and get N1, thats it.).

I also watched a lot of YouTube videos "How to learn Japanese in 2 years" and took them to seriously. 100% my fault and I want to take a healthier way this time.

So far I picked out Renshuu and Genki I as a book. I tried Anki, but that is not really working for me to learn isolated words.

I set myself this time a timewindow and certain milestones.

2026: Try to finish a mock test for N5 at the end of the year

2027: Incorporate native media in my daily life (listening to music, playing videogames in native Japanese). Part of that also included mining for words. Also pass N5 and work towards N4 to the end of the year

2028: Learning to read more complex topics (News articles, perhaps some political topics or technical topics) and work towards N3. Finish Genki I and II

2029: Shift from learning from Renshuu towards native content. Increase reading speed. Also I aim to play the Yakuza games natively (massive fan). Work towards N2

2030: Hold a conversation with Japanese friends from HelloTalk without blacking out completly.

I plan to work with Renshuu 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the evening. I also want to establish a 15-20 minute routine of working with Genki I.

While doing that, I try to speak with my friends in Japan 3-4 times a month.

Is this too much? Too little? I'm a bit scared of burning out again and have to start from the beginning again.

Since I'm working, I can't really spend 3-4 hours a day just learning Japanese. I already found a Spotify Playlist with Japanese songs I listen to while driving to work and back home.

I'm open for any advice.

Thanks! :)

EDIT: corrected position of Genki I and II to 2028

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u/Neo14515 — 6 hours ago

Resource for idiomatic phrasing and spelling

I don't know if this is interesting or if people already know about it, but I found a forum on NHK where viewers ask questions about nitty-gritty details about the language (for example, "is it more proper to say すごくきれい or すごいきれい" or what kanji spelling do you use for におい in the phrase「気になるにおい」) The explanations are really helpful!

I thought this website was a good mix of learning + immersion, so just wanted to share!

u/SparkleHime — 5 hours ago

Using japanese to learn other skills

After reaching a functional level in japanese i.e. N2 or above, did anyone use japanese to learn new skills e.g. learning programming from japanese courses or books, learning the art of japanese bonsai/horticulture etc.

Since there's so much time being piled into daily japanese learning, I figured it would be great if we can come out at the end of the tunnel not only acquiring japanese but picked up some life/technical skills along the way. Any stories to share?

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u/Acrobatic_Youth_5884 — 16 hours ago

N1 tips

I've tried and failed twice the N1, but I'm determined to passing it this december, so I wanted to ask everyone who took N1 yesterday, how was it?

What was the hardest section?

What would you do differently if you had to take it again?

I am going for a masters to Japan for next year so I don't want to just pass it, I'd really like to get a full grasp of it, any recommendations for actually crushing it?

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u/TakoyakiFandom — 18 hours ago

End of Chapter

I finally got my hands on Chainsaw Man 24. Having read it made me feel nostalgic (or maybe it is a part of feeling down because of finishing a series?).

I remember buying Chainsaw Man 1 pretty soon after starting to learn Japanese. I was thinking "I will have something to treat myself, once I will be able to read it". Several times have I tried to start, only to realize "It is not the time yet, get back later, scrub!" But eventually the time came, and I was able to decipher first volume with a painstaking effort. And then another. And another. I was reading on and off (this was not the main learning activity for me) for over 2 years. By the time I got to volume 24, it was an actual reading, I am even a little disappointed with how fast it went (but also there is not that much text in it).

Getting the books was another journey. Stared with local Amazon, swearing on ultra-high mark-up on books in Japanese. And I ended up mixing everything: some volumes from local European bookstore, some from Amazon.jp, some from other Japanese online bookstore, some I asked friends on a trip to Japan to pick for me. I was even able to take one volume as a souvenir from my own trip to Japan.

It is funny how some shonen manga made huge part of my recent life. But thanks to power of language learning, even shonen manga can be intellectually stimulating (I wouldn't enjoy it half as much if just reading translated probably). Now the journey is over. Already got some more stuff to read but I doubt anything will grow this important any time soon.

u/Player_One_1 — 1 day ago

What would you do if you wanted to get from N4 to around N2 in 6 months?

Like I know it will be really hard but I think I might be able to do it, so looking on advice on how to schedule the few months. Any advice is appreciated thanks.

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u/RFL1703 — 1 day ago

Lost my Anki decks - anybody willing to share theirs?

I cat spilled water on my computer and I didn't have my self-made Anki decks backed up to the cloud. Anybody willing to share theirs? Mostly looking for flashcards on vocab and kanji. Any vocab or kanji, I need to know it all eventually. I'd say I'm probably about an N3 level. I've been through the Genki textbooks followed by a couple of the intermediate Quartet textbooks.

Any other study resources are also appreciated!

Edit: Thank you to those that shared their resources. Not sure why I'm getting down voted for asking for flashcards. You don't have to share your decks if you don't want to, that's fine. Not sure why you all care enough about how I choose to study to downvote my post and all the comments I've made explaining that flashcards work for me. It just sucked to lose the decks I had spent years building and I was hoping to be able to keep practicing flashcards without spending hours and hours remaking thousands of cards. It's not like I'm ONLY using flashcards, I have podcasts and textbooks and short stories and videos... Was just hoping to supplement without having to start back over at zero

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u/trying_my_besttt — 1 day ago

Thoughts from Japanese people on “Foreign Words”?

As I’m going through my learning (still only N5 right now) I’m noticing more and more of the borrowed words. I wondered what the opinions were from Japanese people about this, and whether they’re happy with them or would rather make new “Japanese” words? I quite enjoy seeing how they become “japanified” though.

No judgment either way, I’m just curious!

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u/aspadora24 — 1 day ago

ANKI listening only deck?

Took the N4 yesterday and although it felt like I crushed the first 2 sections, the listening was rough and reminded me just how bad my listening is (I don't practice regularly enough like with my reading and anki decks for vocab).

It got me wondering if anyone uses SRS for listening only? are there pre-built decks or apps for this?

I imagine I would want something which has 1 Japanese sentence as the question rather than just words in isolation and then I'd have to translate it into English.

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u/JonathanRace — 1 day ago

I feel a little lost and don't know what I should focus on.

This is my first time on the subreddit, And have no idea how people might act to this post.

I feel a little silly being here, Since I see so many people online who dedicate their time in to learning this language, with so much care and passion, While i am over here just doing barely anything.

I am from the Netherlands, I speak both English and Dutch.

While learning Japanese is very popular In countries like America, here it is not. i don't know anyone in real life that can't even tell Japanese and Chinese apart. anyway.

I've always wanted to learn Japanese, And i have been since January.

I have made a document with a big list of kanji, the problem being is that I look up kanji on the online dutch to Japanese dictionary, Take those kanji and not learn them.

I think by now I know roughly around 50-80 kanji, But there are so many that just won't stick for some reason.

I know all hiragana and around half of katakana.

I have a really bad habit of using google translate when I just want results fast, but since dutch is a language with lots of proverbs and metaphors, It just doesn't translate well, And then write down a kanji that isn't very useful or well used.

I write a lot when I am away from home, I like writing because I can physically interact with paper, and feels nice in my hand.

I am a person, That is scared of learning new things. I procrastinate, dream and avoid a lot. And that's probably why i haven't been making any progress the last month. But i still love this Japanese to bits!

I am just a little lost and it's very hard to put to words what that feeling is, I don't really know what I should be focusing on or learning.

Like staring at a blank page, wanting to write but not knowing what to write, that feeling?

Not sure about the picture quality, But if you could read some of the silly things i wrote, and providing feedback on what i am doing wrong or right is appreciated. Sorry for the long post!

Thank you so much!

u/ReasonableReason549 — 2 days ago

Sharing my recommendation for Visual Novel simulation game (Magical Princess) for N3- N2

I just wanted to share a game called Magical Princess. I played it and thought it would be a great addition for Japanese learners that are looking for a game to practice their reading and listening skills. I think it also makes a great entry point into the VN genre. You can finish the game with multiple ending choices in under 20 hours or less if you are a fast reader. btw there are 50 endings.

So, let’s start with What is Magical Princess?

It’s a Visual Novel game with a focus on character raising simulation. You are a widowed father trying to raise your daughter. Every choice you make has an impact on her future and her job. You guide her through her school years up until graduation day. From taking courses, part time jobs, people she interacts with etc. It also has dungeon RPG elements mixed in.

It has about 30 characters with unique personalities, 170 date scenes and 50 endings. It has amazing art, animated and expressive 2D character animation, voice acting. It is a very polished game. And It has sold about 300,000 copies with an overwhelmingly positive rating on steam.

Where to buy it?

Steam and currently on sale until Jul 9^(th).

Why is it good for Japanese learners?

Because despite being a VN and text heavy. The language barrier is relatively low since most of the lingo is slice of life genre. Think of Yotsubato (よつばと!) manga but a game version of it. Actually, this is the closest VN game that feels like Yotsubato. Both have single father and raising their daughter. Only difference in the game is, it’s a fantasy genre and your daughter is basically a student at a magical high school. If you are not familiar with Yotsubato. It’s basically the best entry point for people learning Japanese to read raw manga.

As to why I recommend this game for N3 – N2. Even though majority of the text is slice of life, sometimes we are dealing with vocabs and kanji from fantasy theme. I will show some example sentences to show the difference in difficulty level. Also, because its a VN game its very text heavy. But if you can read Yotsubato comfortably, and not familiar with fantasy vocabs. I would recommend it, only if you want to challenge yourself. In my opinion this game would act as a good bridge to N3/N2 level.

The overall language difficulty can fluctuate depending on who you talk to, what choices you make as you go about your everyday routine when you raise your daughter. I would say if you are at N3 – N2 level. Your reading comprehension for this game would be around 60 -70%.

As I mentioned its very text heavy. So, it might be a jump for people coming from reading manga or just textbook. But because its so interactive as a simulation game, it might be easier. Did I mention, its very relaxing and you can progress at your own pace.  

Sentence examples

Slice of life/ easier sentence

·         そういえばね、この間、なつかしい夢を見たの。

·         おはよう!今日の朝ごはん、何?

·         お母さんに似てきたなって思ってさ。

·         ……そっか。ママ、美人だったもんね。

·         どんな学園生活になるんだろう……

·         ヘー……すごいけど、ちょっと怖そう

·         ふあぁ、今日の授業終わり!疲れたあ。

·         今から食べに行こうね~。

·         ショッピングだけじゃなくて、 アルバイトを募集してる店もあるみたいだよ。

Magic related/ higher difficulty sentences

·         新入生のみなさん、王立魔導学園への入学を心よりお祝い申し上げます。

·         コッペパン神殿の大神官には、「紅き月が再び混沌をもたらす」と神託が下ったという。

·      学園内には剣術、魔術、社交の三つのクラスがあり、自分で好きな道を選ぶことができます。

·         昔の戦争じゃ、200体以上の魔物を一人で斬り伏せて王国を勝利に導いたって噂だぜ。

·         王都周辺では魔物による襲撃が相次ぎ、騎士団が対応に追われている。

·         召喚術師で、女王の側近

·         由緒正しい騎士の家系、ブルーベル家出身の王国騎士さ

·         違法な粉、盗品、偽造品、人の命ですら……東亜コインで動く。

 recommendation / final comment

Some software I would recommend when playing this game. Luna translator and Migaku.

Luna translator has a OCR function and you can set it up to show furigana for kanji you might not know how to read. You are not using this as a machine translator but rather to copy sentences to show you furigana and you can also set it up to show definition of words. You might even be able to text-hook this game if you are experienced with VN and luna translator.

Migaku to track your vocab and to use it as a clipboard to review all the sentences, words you found difficult. And if you need, you can ask the ai to help you break down the sentences and explain it.

There are other programs that can perform similar function like Sugoi Toolkit and Yomitan clipboard. It will come down to personal preference if you want to use software to aid you or not.

I am not an avid reader, nor do I consider myself a VN expert. In fact, this is the first character raising simulation game I played. I am more of raw manga reader. But I found this game very enjoyable and a great reading experience. I reached the ending in about 12 hours and got 3 different ending choices. I did main quest plus side quests. It was a complete blind playthrough.

For a first playthrough I would recommend selecting the social class since it won’t throw as many magic related vocabs at you. Especially when you have conversation with your teacher. Currently doing a new game plus to see new routes and unlock new scenes and endings. I really feel this is the best bang for your buck as a VN game itself and to aid you in your Japanese language learning path.

u/ninkuX — 2 days ago
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Tried Bunpo, not impressed

Finally tried Bunpo after hearing people raving about how much better it is on this subreddit than Duolingo, and I have to say, I’m less than impressed.

It’s nice that they explain grammar, but that’s really the only thing going for it. The system is extremely particular about how you word the sentences. Not to mention they’re also using AI? Which is why people got so upset about Duolingo in the first place. It doesn’t really seem like that much better of an app.

Anyone have any other suggestions?

Edit: I am talking about Bunpo not BunPRO. I got the two apps confused. I am going to give BunPRO a shot. Thank you to the commenters who pointed that out!!!

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u/Aur0ha — 2 days ago

Is it recommended to actually listen to all 1500+ nihongo con teppei episodes?

Title basically. That's a lot of episodes for beginner listening

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u/GreattFriend — 2 days ago

Does anyone else forget everything they've learned under pressure/ in the moment of truth?

I have N1/N2 and have known for ages that a polite "no thank you" is 結構です. But when a higher up suddenly offered me a snack, my brain thought "Im good thanks" in English, which I then pushed out my mouth as "いいです", which is actually a rude way to decline, particularly to a higher-up. I was so disappointed in myself and embarrassed. Does anyone else have trouble applying what they've learned in real-time scenarios?

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u/MyLanguageJourney — 2 days ago

[weekend meme] You literally had one job.

Do Japanese people also suffer from the IME defaulting to English input?

Edit: I have found this(first answer) gem while googling for a solution.

u/tonkachi_ — 4 days ago

Can I translate as I read it?

Reading this from Satori Reader:

公園には、私のようにウォーキングをしている人や、ジョギングをしている人、犬の散歩をしている人など、たくさんの人たちがいた。

The translation from Satori Reader is:

"In the park, there were lots of people: people who were walking like me, people who were jogging, people who were walking dogs, and so on."

When I read it though, my translation is this:

"In this park, there were people like me walking, people who were jogging, people walking their dogs and such, there were a lot of people."

I ended up with the above because I translated it as I read it.

Is my translation acceptable or wrong?

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u/YujiroDemonBackHanma — 3 days ago

Just a funny little thing that i've noticed that I'm wondering if it is common or my weird brain being weird.

I've really ramped up my vocabulary study the last 6 months or so: flashcards, apps, the whole 9 yards.

But I've noticed that as I'm studying a word, right before I "get it" into my head in a way I can recall later without much effort, when I see the word on a flashcard, I reverse the kanji.

For example, I just came across the word for self- study 独学 (どくがく), and I read it as 学独 (がくどく), which is silly of course, because intellectually 学 is one of the most common kanji I have used over the years. But in that split-second moment flying through cards, I still read it as I did.

I used to get mad at myself for going too fast or not reading recognizable kanji correctly, but it happens a lot. Not with every word, but enough to where I have recognized the pattern.

So is it just me being weird, or is this a thing?

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u/-Jdzspace- — 3 days ago

Grammar deficiency problem

I've been studying Japanese on and off for a while, but over the past year I've been using Anki consistently. Every card in my deck I mined from anime and manga, and currently is around 1,600 vocabulary cards. Recently, I started reading something purely for fun, and I was surprised by how many words I recognized. However, I realized that even though I knew a lot of the vocabulary, I often couldn't fully understand the sentences. Instead, I had to piece together the meaning from context, which wasn't always easy. Whenever this happens, it usually feels like grammar is the main thing holding me back. I watched Tokini Andy's Genki grammar videos a long time ago, but I haven't reviewed grammar systematically since then. What would you recommend for improving my grammar so I can start understanding Japanese more naturally and rely less on guessing from context?

I really wanna improve this aspect and feel like it's the next step

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u/Agreeable_Gas_4240 — 4 days ago