r/SmashRage

Recovery/ edge guard tool / movement option/ chargeable/ can break shields.

I hate this move more than alolan whip and flying slam. WHY THE FUCK IS IT CHARGEABLE!? YOU CANT CHARGE IT IN SONIC GAMES!!!

You just realize like nah bro. today ain’t it. You already know all the degenerates are just waiting for you on the other side.

I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE CLOUD I HATE CLOUD I HATE HIM I HATE CLOUD

What would you change with the Ice Climbers (or how would you rework them) in order to make them super broken and/or closer to their source material?

I didn't play their game, so my proposition might not be as fleshed out.

Here is what I would change :

If the main Ice Climber (Popo) gets ejected and the other (Nana) is still alive, the player now takes control of Nana. Meaning both Climbers have to be defeated in order to take a stock instead of just the main one.

If one of the Climbers gets defeated, the remaining one get's a boost to avenge her fallen sister/brother, now dealing 50% more DMG & knockback and a 25% agility boost.

NeutralB : Ice Shot || The stalagmites now always freezes the opponent no matter their percentage (normally, it only freezes them at extremely high percentage), it grows bigger as it travels instead of shrinking, and it can no longer be reflected by hitting once it reaches King Dedede's Gordo's size and bigger.

UpB : Belay || If Popo uses his UpB and Nana is away from him, it teleports her to his side to perform the UpB, no matter the distance. If Nana's KO, Popo instead throws a grappling hook diagonally up that acts like Joker's.

What do YOU GUYS think?

OMG I HATE FIGHTING SAMUS. Samus alone is the best example of what sucks about this games meta

It Actively rewards camping.

First of her stats. although her running speed is pretty poor she makes up with it with EVERYTHING.

Top 10 in weight which makes her HEAVIER THAN RIDLEY BY THE WAY.

13th BEST jump height in the game Outshining MARIO'S.

And although it is average she's in the Top Half for AIR SPEED.

Now let's get into her air game.

Her aerials have NO FUCKING ENDLAG which is insane!

Now most of the time I don't mind characters with low endlag on aerials. hell I play several with that but frankly they usually have the weakness of being small and lightweight but Samus happens to have a weight of 108! so she can just combo you constantly especially with her stupid grab which WE WILL GET TO into fair combo.

Fair is SUPER GREAT for damage and edgeguarding even having moderate endlag if you miss.

why is her nair so good at edge guarding too.

Her upair is BROKEN has low lag, does great damage and KILLS.

And the easiest spikes with her dair and uptilt which BTW WHY DOES SHE NEED 2 SPIKES.

speaking of tilts her dair is a quick 2 frame and kill option OOS.

Now let's get into her specials.

Her charge shot mechanic is COMPLETE BULLSHIT on her! most characters with one again balance it out with poor survivability but Samus's is just..DUDE.

Not only is it one of if not the quickest to activate in the GAME, it's like having a smash attack that goes FOREVER AND REALLY FAST.

although her homing missile isn't the best the sped up version can be used IN TANDEM with her charge shot.

Her Up-B goes not that far but you don't really need it to be that great with the amazing fucking jump height that she has. oh yeah and it does good damage, kills off the top pretty early and is an OOS option.

And her bomb spam SHE CAN JUST DO LIKE 3 IN LIKE 5 SECONDS. they have no lag, can be used to both combo AND EDGEGUARD AND GO OFF FAST.

And that zair dude MY GOD played a match once in a local where a Samus player camped and SPAMMED ZAIR ALL GAME. with little endlag too and doing good damage it is also ONE OF THE BEST TETHERS IN THE GAME.

Finally her upsmash covers way too much around her and kills better than mario's.

The thing with most zoners is that they usually don't have the best aerials to approach with BUT THEY DECIDED TO GIVE SOME OF THE BEST ONES TO HER FOR SOME REASON. So she's not only unfun to fight from a distance but up CLOSE.

Again I don't mind characters with low lag. I just don't like it when they are This brokenly unbalanced.

at least she has a pretty tall hitbox for combos.

TLDR bring back the chad, based melee Samus back and not this annoying prick.

No hate to anyone who plays Samus...except if you're disrespectful and cheesy.

Alright fuck it I'll give you some points if you play Dark Samus. THEY'RE COOL. except for the fact you can evade mario's dash attack BUT STILL.