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Looking for support after experiencing religious trauma in the Bahá’í community

I am a non-Bahá’í woman in my early 20s married to a Bahá’í man. I first heard about the Bahá’í Faith from him when we just met and loved it because it reflected many of my values. As we got closer, I spent hours researching every piece of information I found online. I also wanted to understand him and his values deeply, as he comes from a devout Bahá’í family. I thought one of the ways to do that was to attend activities and meetings with him. I made many friends inside the community, even though it's small here.

However, there were many times when I felt uncomfortable, but at the time I couldn't really understand why. Now, looking back, I see many disturbing moments.

During Ruhi 1 study circles, I was constantly pressured to accept the ideas and corrected every time I said something that contradicted the book. During meetings, I felt pressured by older members to say a prayer - they would hand me a prayer card and expect me to read it. Every hangout with friends turned into an invitation to lead some activities or participate in a youth camp. To me, it was very disturbing because why can you never tell me the actual reason you are hanging out with me? Why can't you tell me from the beginning what the reason for meeting me is if you already have a plan arranged?

It happened with other people too. They invited non-Bahá’í youth for a fun activity and then handed them papers with Bahá’í writings to study, even though no one had been told there would be religious study involved. Once I invited two of my friends over, and they came literally prepared to convince me to hold Ruhi study circles. If I said no, they would bring it up over and over, pressuring me to agree.

I guess the reason they do this is that no one wants to participate in these activities because most people are freaked out by sudden religious teachings they were not prepared for and by the lack of transparency. I loved the teachings, but I was constantly surrounded by people who were emotionally manipulating others. Maybe when I describe it like this, it doesn't sound that serious, but when it continues for more than a year, it really hurts. At the time, I wasn't very conscious of my feelings. I just started distancing myself and expressing my unwillingness to participate.

We got married, and then a new wave of pressure began. Community members started publicly saying during a 19-Day Feast that I had to become Bahá’í to 'keep the unity of my family.' During these meetings, they would also talk about followers of other religions as if they were wrong, even though I am one of those people from the "dark outside world," and they know that.

I felt no support from anyone during this pressure because everyone stayed silent while one person was directly violating my religious boundaries.

The final point was when three of them came to my grandparents' house while I was visiting them, saying they just wanted to meet my grandparents. Then the meeting turned into a disaster. First, they pressured me to study the Ruhi books. I directly said I wasn't interested. Then it turned into them telling me that I had to accept the Faith and repeatedly pressuring me to convert despite me constantly saying no and telling them that it was making me uncomfortable. It lasted for at least two hours and happened in front of my grandparents and my husband. 

After that, I cried nonstop for two days because I couldn't understand why these people were so deaf to what I was saying and so careless about other people's boundaries. They only seemed to care about changing my religious identity. Is that really service to humanity?

Every time I share what I experienced, the response is always, "We are learning." You can't treat pressuring people into your religion as a learning experience.

Yesterday, the Auxiliary Board member randomly told me, "You are a Bahá’í." I honestly don't understand why they keep treating me like this when they know I have already experienced so much pressure regarding my religious identity and have repeatedly said that I do not want to change it.

After two years of living like this, I have developed a religious trauma. I now avoid all meetings, events, and conversations related to the Faith. However, every time I interact with members of the community, I feel like I relive all of that pressure, betrayal, and manipulation again. I feel unsafe even in my own house, and I can't feel emotionally stable for several days afterward.

This has also caused conflicts with my husband because I blame him for not protecting me and for staying silent while he watched all of this happen. I have been in counseling for almost a year because of this, and I still feel this way.

I wonder if there are any specific self-help resources for religious trauma that could help me. By the way, contacting the Local or National Spiritual Assembly is not an option because they are the same people who have been pressuring me to convert.

I really hope to find some support and understanding here.

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u/Appropriate_Age_550 — 14 hours ago
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How does the faith view Revolutions/Civil Wars that have occured in the 19th-20th centuries?

Hello all, I have a curiosity that I'm sure doesn't have one singular simple answer, so I would really appreciate any help or input you have to offer. I think many of us as Bahá'ís have at one point or another thought about in what ways we should serve humanity best and what ways should be avoided. And when looking at what actions to avoid, we seek guidance from the Writings of the faith. Now I know that, regardless any good intentions, the faith doesn't view war and violence to be the answer to anything. So of course we can expect the surface-level answer that any civil war or revolutionary war would be somewhat frowned upon due to it being a war in the first place.

However, life is obviously more nuanced than that. While we may disagree with warfare, we can of course sympathize with those who are simply fighting back in order to save their lives from those who wish to take it. We may not have encouraged Bahá'ís to take up arms in WW2, but we can of course agree with the struggle to cease the cruel actions of the Nazi regime.

So my question is what is the view of the faith regarding periods in recent history (events during and after the life of Bahá'u'lláh) where citizens stood up against an oppressive force in efforts to demand justice and ensure the safety of their neighbors, such as the American Civil War, the Russian Revolution, India's fight for Independence, the Cuban Revolution, etc? We may have disagreements with specific extreme actions that were taken, but do we then disagree with the movements as a whole and that they shouldn't have happened? Or do we support the fight for justice and simply believe it can be accomplished through non-violent means as taught in the Bahá'í faith? And for those individuals who took partisan stances in these struggles, do we disagree with *all* forms of partisanahip in the struggle for justice, or do we simply hold that prohibition for Bahá'ís only since we're meant to be unifiers?

Thank you all. And Alláh'u-Abhá

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u/Immortal_Scholar — 21 hours ago
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Schism Protections

The thing that it's grossly over looked by members, IMHO, are the powerful protections against Schism in the Baha'i Faith!

Does anyone here understand what I'm speaking on?

How is it accomplished, what are the guardrails.

So far, no faith has been unable to prevent multiple Schism. None.

Why is this not studied in depth as one of the primary guardian of the faith.

In deed its a key an critical component of the faith!

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u/Minimum_Name9115 — 1 day ago
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"Speak thou no word of politics"

How do you understand this?

"O handmaid of the Lord! Speak thou no word of politics; thy task concerneth the life of the soul, for this verily leadeth to man's joy in the world of God. Except to speak well of them, make thou no mention of the earth's kings, and the worldly governments thereof..."

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u/Sertorius126 — 2 days ago
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Non-Bahai attending First Meeting

Hello all,

To clarify, my city has a local add on social media for a Bahai establishment that engages with some of the philosophical and theological questions I like to engage in. I’ve been looking for a community to discuss with and it appears this may be an open platform for dialogue. Personally, I have no interest in becoming Bahai but would be interested in attending. Would this be appropriate?

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u/PanamsYams — 3 days ago
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For people who left their religion and converted to Bahai faith, how did you deal with skepticism and "carelessness"?

For context: I am an ex-muslim (apatheist) for 6 years or so, I'm currently reading more about the Bahai faith, I generally like it. I have 2 concerns


My First Concern is About spirituality

In these 6 years, I had developed a materialistic and very scientific way of thinking, when reading "Kitab al-aqdas" I still read it with a critical eye, I am still comparing it to Quran (in terms of linguistics, since I am Arab), and I am still unconsciously feel biased to Quran (in terms of figures of speech, not the content), generally, I feel very skeptical towards the holy texts and prayers and less spiritual. I feel I lost this spiritual sense when I left Islam long time ago


My Second Concern is About Beliefs

Let me give an example here, I was born and raised on the belief that Jesus was not crossified. Bahais believe that Jesus was crossified, even though I left Islam, I can't deny that the first idea has a stronger impact on my mind. Now, if I converted to Bahai, and was asked about whether Jesus was crossified or not, my honest answer will be "I don't care". I personally don't belive or disbelieve such a thing, completely neutral. This is the case with many beliefs inside the religion, as long as the belief doesn't touch me directly (specially historical things like this), I don't care so much. But I do really care about the the unity of god, religion and humanity


Can you share your experiences about feeling spiritual in Bahai coming from religious-then-irreligious background? Also, does it require to care about details I mentioned above to be a Bahai?

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u/nerd_airfryer — 4 days ago
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Suffering

What is the Baha'i explanation of why God allows so much suffering in the world. From birth defects, fatal diseases, tsunamis, earthquakes, extreme weather, to the brutal things humans do to each other.

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u/Vast-Photograph3384 — 5 days ago
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Baha’i and Neoplatonic thought

Hey everyone, I became Baha’i around 2 years ago and have been trying and often failing to be a good Baha’i. I’ve been researching Neoplatonism for longer than I have been a Baha’i, I’m wondering how the two mix and work together.

Baha’i beliefs on God sound somewhat similar to Platonic thought on The One, aside from the impersonal aspect. I have also read Julian The Apostate’s beliefs on Neoplatonic thought and his views of specific holy/ virtuous teachers being the emanation of The One sounds similar to Baha’i beliefs in the manifestations.

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u/CC-756 — 6 days ago
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Looking for someone to learn and talk with

Hi. I'm trying to explore different faith and I stable here. I'm looking for someone to talk, and learn the faith. And also to ask questions because, I'm currently suffering from existential crisis. Thank you

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u/Little_Mango_3359 — 6 days ago
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Help- Vent- Advice- :)

Hello- I have been interested in the faith since 2019- In 2020 I reached out the Bahai # and got contacted by a local person who then had her Aunt reach out to me. Long story short- It was good a nice slow roll in and declared last year. It has now been a few years and they are great people, most Bahia I have met are pretty nice- I am in cluster that is not actually mine- I just was told out earlier this year! I am okay with that as in my area there is only one and the local community it is also a small group of us. I am very close with the couple that has been Bahai -female since hs and the male since he was 19/20. They are almost like royalty in this area.

What I am going to say next is a cumulation of issues that are mine and some that are just confusing.. But it came to a bright light this weekend. We were schedule for a casual hang- hair cuts by us and meal last minute is changed as it often does wo these two- They are not very mindful of time and knowing their schedule. So we made plans to come over on Sat for their hair cuts for both of of them - Friday was odd as there was an obvious vibe of discomfort, perhaps the plans changing were not good for them but it was to accommodate a a friend who was hurt and we were going to there place instead. Also a Link was sent to hear a very Important Bahia person speaking via a special link & Thus these two were Very insistent that we had to watch that- To boot they could NOT figure it out how get off the message off their phone so we listen through the phone- It was not hard to listen and my husband kept falling asleep. Not due top being bored He just could not hear it!! It was so hectic and not that spiritual. This important man speaking touched on current events with the current federal leaders. Full Truth I didn't quite follow and I am so sad with is happening with our country. FLASH FORWARD to the next day- I show for haircuts- they are running late and that ok but I had to work so I got it going. We were casually speaking and then this Happens... We get done and it was SO organic I mention how I feel its not ok to wreck the capitol - ufc fighting- Iran- women's right ect.. The male looks at me and say

" Conversations like these are dismantling to the faith and can cause relationships to be disengaged" I was so shocked! It was an organic conversation I had thought was between like minded friends. "

The female told there are times for elevated conversation. Honesty the Bahia buzz words are very confusing to me and kinda yucky to force people to use certain word to effetely communicate- it a very odd way Exclude people.. I got so embarrassed I adore these two and I took his declaration to heart and I a sure he just was talking. & then walked away as a two things... One he and his wife are trumpets and two I am about to disengaged from their world. I cried all day after leaving the, I was quite thankful to have work to do.. It was a really hurt time for me and I am was also confused.

I Have really engage in the Bahia world for the past 3/4 years and ,my fault I suppose in bring up politics BUT really in my defense it came VERY naturally- especially with this Bahia doctor bring up leadership!!!

I wonder now if I should walk away for a bit to educate my self - Or do I bring this up to them and see what is what... I have a feeling it affected me more then the, He was pretty flippant about the statement.

Any help/advice would be welcome. Thank YOU! ** Sorry if this a lot - I am real human who typed this NOT AI * and I am touch upset by the mis-actions of mine and theirs after getting so close for that past 3 years a lot of engagement of joy and fun times and prayers

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u/Zestyclose_Parsnip77 — 7 days ago
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What's your two-sentence explanation of what the Baha'i Faith is?

"What's that?" is often stated when encountering the Baha'i faith for the first time.

What are your go to explanations that provide the most information in the most concise manor?

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u/Cadowyn — 9 days ago
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Question Bahaullah

Good evening. Peace be upon the one who seeks guidance.

We are going to talk about something I find difficult to understand.

Bahá'u'lláh withdrew into seclusion in Kurdistan and lived as a dervish. However, what confuses me is that he was originally a Shi'a Muslim, then he became a Bábí, later lived as a dervish, and before claiming his revelation he even began praying like the Sunnis. None of this makes sense to me.

Could you please clarify this part of his history and explain how these changes fit togethe

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u/yuzaa2344 — 7 days ago
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Looking for French Bahá'ís to Talk With and Learn From

Hello everyone,

I hope this post is welcome here.

For some time now, I've been interested in the Bahá'í Faith and have been trying to learn more about its history, teachings, and how it is practiced in everyday life. I've already read quite a bit, but I believe that nothing compares to talking with people who actually live their faith.

I'm looking for French-speaking Bahá'ís, especially those from France, who would be willing to have a respectful and friendly conversation. My goal isn't to debate or persuade anyone, but simply to gain a better understanding of your personal experiences, your journey, and what led you to embrace the Bahá'í Faith. Dm

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u/yuzaa2344 — 7 days ago
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Academic resources about the Baha'i Faith and Jesus Christ/Christianity

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for list of academic literature that describes any/all relationships between Baha'i Faith and Christianity or Jesus Christ. Doesn't matter if it's an apologetic or criticism, any reference is a good reference.

I'm working on an encyclopedic project and just want to source the references carefully. I've already gotten some high level insights from Buck, Lambden, Cole, etc. But I think I need more covering themes like:

  • Station of Jesus
  • Progressive revelation and the unity of the prophets
  • Divinity, sonship, and the Trinity
  • Baha'i Faith and its stance towards the Gospel
  • Resurrection and ascension
  • Return of Christ and eschatology

Baha'i sources are plentiful, and I've already used Ocean + BahaiWritings.app to source as much as I can. But I need more academic sources for my efforts and I'm hoping some of y'all have a better set of references. I wish I could've also parsed through ABS or the European equivalent to find any other form of scholarship work, but curious if you're aware of any more on the said topics.

Thank you!

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u/forbiscuit — 7 days ago
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Critical question on Christian Ecclesiology

Allahuabha to you all. I am a Bahai undergoing my personal investigation of truth as commanded to us by the writings and unfortunately, after a few years of research, I have come across a few critical question that have been deeply shaking my faith. I'm at the point where I need as much insight as possible as I have not been given any reasonable/coherent position through consultation and Bahai writings and scholarly literature. It will be a bit long, so I implore you all for your patience and understanding:

I am trying to understand the Bahá'í position regarding the authority Christ left to the Church after His ascension.

In the New Testament, Christ does not merely gather a community of believers. He establishes a visible Church, grants the apostles the authority to bind and loose, commands believers to listen to the Church, and states that those who refuse to listen to the Church are to be treated as outsiders (Matthew 16 and Matthew 18).

The apostles then exercise this authority in practice. Judas is replaced in Acts 1, demonstrating that apostolic offices can be succeeded. The Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15 gathers the apostles and elders to settle a doctrinal dispute, and its decision is proclaimed as being approved by the Holy Spirit by Peter. Paul instructs Timothy regarding ordination through the laying on of hands and warns him not to confer this office hastily, implying that ecclesiastical authority and ministry continue beyond the original apostles.

The earliest Christians and especially Church fathers such as Clement of Rome, Irenaeus of Lyons and many more, appear to have understood the Church as a visible, authoritative institution capable of settling doctrinal disputes. They did not seem to operate according to the principle that every believer could independently determine doctrine. When disputes arose concerning Gnosticism, Docetism, Arianism, and other controversies, the Church resolved them through bishops, councils, and appeals to apostolic succession and Church authority given by Christ. 

My question is therefore this:

If the Bahá'í Faith denies that Christ established a continuing, divinely protected teaching authority capable of rendering binding doctrinal judgments, what mechanism did Christ leave for Christians to resolve theological disputes after the death of the apostles?

If a disagreement arose concerning the nature of Christ, the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Resurrection, the canon of Scripture, or any other doctrinal matter, who possessed the authority to decide the issue?

If the answer is "the Church," then it appears that Christ did establish a normative ecclesiastical authority. If the answer is "Scripture," then the New Testament itself never presents Scripture as the sole court of appeal and instead repeatedly directs believers to the authority of the Church. On top of that, using Scripture as the court of Appeal against the authority of the church would indeed be a fallacious statement as it is the Church itself that established the canon of scripture! If the answer is "individual conscience" or "the authentic teachings of Christ," then how could competing interpretations be distinguished from one another in any binding way?

Without some continuing authority capable of making binding doctrinal judgments, it seems that Matthew 18 becomes impossible to apply in practice, because Christ commands believers to submit to the Church's judgment while also providing no identifiable body capable of issuing such judgment!

Furthermore, if the Church lacked authority to define doctrine, condemn error, and preserve apostolic teaching, on what basis could the early Christians legitimately reject Docetism, Gnosticism, Arianism, or any other movement claiming to represent authentic Christianity?

In short, what concrete, visible, and normative authority did Christ leave to the Christian community after the apostles died, and how was that authority supposed to resolve doctrinal disputes?

I understand that the Bahá'í writings teach that Christianity eventually became divided and accumulated doctrinal errors. My question is: when exactly did this happen?

The apostles themselves exercised authority, replaced Judas, ordained successors through the laying on of hands, gathered in council, and claimed the guidance of the Holy Spirit in their decisions.

The generation immediately following the apostles also believed in episcopal succession and the authority of bishops. Figures such as Ignatius of Antioch and Irenaeus argued against heresies precisely by appealing to apostolic succession and the authority of the Church.

So at what point did the Church lose the authority Christ gave it?

Was it during the lifetime of the apostles?

If not, then was it immediately after their deaths?

If not, then was it during the second century?

If not, then was it at Nicaea?

If not, then was it at Chalcedon?

And how can we know?

More importantly, by what principle do we determine which doctrines and councils are authentic and which are corruptions?

For example, the same bishops and succession claims that condemned Gnosticism and Docetism also defended the divinity of Christ and later articulated Trinitarian theology.

If the Church was still authoritative when it condemned Gnosticism, why was it not authoritative when it defended Nicene Christianity?

If the Church was already corrupted by the time of Nicaea, then on what basis do Bahá'ís know that the Gnostics and Docetists were wrong and the bishops were right?

In other words, if Christ did not establish a permanently protected authority, what objective historical criterion allows us to identify the precise moment at which the Church ceased to faithfully preserve His teachings?

Thank you all for your patience and help,
Peace be upon you all.

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u/GeneFGFR3 — 12 days ago
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Baha'i Research Workflow

Posting this in case the following workflow is of interest to anyone researching the alignment of Baha'i principles with non-Bahai sources. --
I use Readwise-Reader to save articles, videos, etc. and have just started using Claude to query these sources using the Readwise MCP server. I asked Claude to "Search my Readwise library for non-Bahai sources that do not directly reference Baha'i writings, but support the Bahai concepts of spiritual and humanitarian ideals." This may not be rocket science for seasoned programmers and researchers, but I was blown away when Claude obligingly found 27 sources in my library, created a widget and then this html file: some-bahai-stuff.netlify.app -- feedback welcomed.

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u/CandleTop4368 — 9 days ago
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For Baha'i location without 9 in a city, but 15 in surrounding county, and Feast and Devotional.

update, thankful for the great info!

Can they meet and call it a Feast? Or, just meet for association without calling it anything.

Then, Firesides are now obsolete. And Devotional is supposed to be the Fireside replacement to welcome Seekers and educate. But there are many Devotionals going on without every having a Seeker.

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u/Minimum_Name9115 — 11 days ago
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How should I explain John 1:1-5 to a Christian?

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; this one was in the beginning with God; all things happened through Him, and without Him not even one thing happened that has happened. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men, and the light shined in the darkness, and the darkness did not perceive it." (Jn. 1:1-5).

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Edit: Thank you all for your comments. I got the answers & citations I needed so I've semi-deleted the post but will keep it up for others who are looking for the answer too.

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u/No_Problem9451 — 13 days ago
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The Bahá’í Gardens in Haifa

When arriving in Haifa, it is impossible to miss the Bahá'í Gardens, nineteen green terraces stretch down the slopes of Mount Carmel toward the Haifa Bay, with a shimmering golden dome standing at their center.

The gardens were constructed as a slope of nineteen terraces, from the summit of Mount Carmel to its foot, each one a world of its own, yet all united by a single language of gravel paths, flower beds, and meticulously manicured shrubs that an entire team of gardeners tends to daily.

If you are looking for an island of peace and beauty, where every leaf is in its place and every flowerpot has just been watered, the Bahá'í Gardens are the perfect place to visit. Literally perfect, because perfection is truly a part of their religion.

The mesmerizing beauty and extreme precision of the Bahá'í Gardens are not merely a design or aesthetic choice, but a direct physical expression of the principles and beliefs of the Bahá'í Faith.

For the Bahá'ís, absolute beauty, order, and cleanliness are an inseparable part of spirituality. They believe that cultivating the physical environment and bringing it to the highest level of perfection reflects divine beauty and creates the proper conditions for spiritual elevation. The gardens themselves serve as a frame and an approach axis to the Golden-Domed Shrine of the Báb, which is one of their most sacred sites, and therefore every detail around it must be flawless to show proper respect.

Furthermore, the architecture of the gardens is based on deep symbolism. The nineteen terraces represent the Báb and his first eighteen disciples. The clear symmetry, straight lines, and gravel paths that look as if they were drawn with a ruler are designed to create a sense of harmony, peace, and unity – which are the core tenets of the religion. The contrast between the meticulous order of the gardens and the wild, urban landscape around them is meant to provide an island of inner and outer tranquility for visitors and pilgrims.

To maintain this level of perfection, a vast and skilled team operates on-site, including dozens of professional gardeners and maintenance staff, many of whom are Bahá'í volunteers from all over the world. For these volunteers, the daily physical labor in the garden – whether pruning each shrub with precision, weeding, or raking the gravel – is considered a form of prayer, religious devotion, and spiritual service, which is why they invest their entire heart and soul into it.

Tips for the visit: Free guided tours take place every day except Wednesday in Hebrew, English, Russian, and Arabic, lasting about 45 minutes and descending around 700 steps – comfortable shoes are essential. Visitors must arrive in modest clothing with shoulders and knees covered, and it is forbidden to eat, chew gum, or smoke on the grounds. When entering the inner shrine, shoes must be removed. Photography is permitted in the gardens, but not inside the shrine itself.

u/MaayanYani — 10 days ago
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The Cherished Bahá'u'lláh

Why the Prophet Bahá'u'lláh is a Prophet

I also believe in Bahá'u'lláh as a prophet I am Messianic Nazorene of Manichaeism

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u/GabrielXCampos — 12 days ago